Could Obama enforce Martial Law?

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    I had a discussion with a friend recently who claims that neither the Military nor federal law-enforcement would never fire on American citizens. Unfortunately, I beg to differ. As long as the media can convince Americans that a certain segment of society is the enemy anything is possible. FDR used the Military to place innocent American citizens behind barbed wire after the attack on Pearl Harbor.
    Federal law enforcement attacked an innocent US Army Veteran's family after a failed attempt to force him into being a federal informant. The legendary Ruby Ridge siege happened during a republican administration and an FBI sniper was indicted for shooting a woman in the face while she was holding an 18th month old baby in her arms.
    Tanks and poison gas were used against an alleged subversive religious sect in Waco Tx. while breathless reporters claimed Koresch had secret weapons capable of shooting miles and he was engaging in child abuse at that very moment so the feds better invade quickly. The allegations were never proven and as a matter of fact Koresch lay dying from wounds at the time. Tanks and attack helicopters were called in and only a few Branch Dividians survived the invasion.
    Recently the feds shipped over 2,000 illegal weapons to Mexico. Allegedly hundreds of Mexican citizens were killed as well as a US Border Patrol agent. The weapons are still in (rebel?) criminal hands and the media either ignores the crime or justifies the administration's action
    My opinion is that it might be difficult for the left wing administration to get away with full scale Martial Law but it could be done in stages. We just saw the Mussolini looking head of the largest union in the Country standing next to the grinning president and shouting "we are your army and we are ready to march and take those SOB's (American citizens?) out, so there is support within the radical rank and file of union members. The media ignored Jesse Jackson Jr. recently when he suggested that the "states were in rebellion" so it justifies any action Obama might take and the Governor of N.C. offered a suggestion that the Constitution be tabled for a while and the 2012 elections be posponed. Anything is possible if the democrat party stands united and the media supports the action.
     
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    You seem to forget, conveniently enough..Kent State.

    Where National Guard fired upon college students.
     
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    I think Kent State was a case of poorly led inexperienced young Guard Troops with live ammo being taunted by experienced mob leaders. The point is that Police and Military can be placed in a situation where they will willingly fire on American citizens. I'm not faulting the greatest Military in the world. Obama would have to get rid of a few generals along the way but the Troops will try to complete the mission just like they have always done. If the mission is to put down what the government claims is a rebellion they will do it.
     
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    My son is a Sgt in the Army and we talked about this a couple times. He really doesn't believe the majority of military would go along with firing on American citizens....unless they're fired on first. Of course there are soldiers that will go along with it, just because their soldiers it doesn't mean they're all "good" people. But most of them would have a very hard time with this, especially the ones that want to see obama out of office, and there's MANY of them.
     
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    One well placed agent provacateur that engages military or police first can easily get the ball rolling.
     
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    Constitutional Topic: Martial Law - The U.S. Constitution Online - USConstitution.net
     
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    Constitutional Topic: Martial Law - The U.S. Constitution Online - USConstitution.net
     
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    US troops will never fire on US citizens?

    Yeah, right.

    :doubt:
     
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    Fair warning: I have been deputized to run several FEMA camps in the interior swamplands of Central Florida. We will be rounding up anyone remotely supporting Republican policies and putting them to work in the sugar cane fields!!!

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    Would Americans fire on Americans? History has shown that it has happened many times. It will happen again as history does repeat itself.

    July 14, 1877, a general strike halted the movement of U.S. railroads. In the following days, strike riots spread across the United States. The next week, federal troops were called out to force an end to the nationwide strike. At the "Battle of the Viaduct" in Chicago, federal troops (recently returned from an Indian massacre) killed 30 workers and wounded over 10.

    May 1886. The Bayview Massacre where seven people, including one child, were killed by state militia. On 1 May 1886 about 2,000 Polish workers walked off their jobs and gathered at Saint Stanislaus Church in Milwaukee, angrily denouncing the ten hour workday. They then marched through the city, calling on other workers to join them; as a result, all but one factory was closed down as sixteen thousand protesters gathered at Rolling Mills, prompting Wisconsin Govorner Jeremiah Rusk to call the state militia. The militia camped out at the mill while workers slept in nearby fields, and on the morning of May 5th, as protesters chanted for the eight hour workday, General Treaumer ordered his men to shoot into the crowd, some of whom were carrying sticks, bricks, and scythes, leaving seven dead at the scene. The Milwaukee Journal reported that eight more would die within twenty four hours, and without hesitation added that Governor Rusk was to be commended for his quick action in the matter


    23 November 23, 1887, the Thibodaux Massacre. The Louisiana Militia, aided by bands of "prominent citizens," shot at least 35 unarmed black sugar workers striking to gain a dollar-per-day wage, and lynched two strike leaders

    1894, Federal troops killed 34 American Railway Union members in the Chicago area attempting to break a strike, led by Eugene Debs, against the Pullman Company. Debs and several others were imprisoned for violating injunctions, causing disintegration of the union.

    June 8, 1904, in a battle between the Colorado Militia and striking miners at Dunnville ended with six union members dead and 15 taken prisoner. Seventy-nine of the strikers were deported to Kansas two days later.

    April 20, 1914, the "Ludlow Massacre." In an attempt to persuade strikers at Colorado's Ludlow Mine Field to return to work, company "guards," engaged by John D. Rockefeller, Jr. and other mine operators and sworn into the State Militia just for the occasion, attacked a union tent camp with machine guns, then set it afire. Five men, two women and 12 children died as a result.
     
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