CORRECTION: Muslim practice means going "above and beyond" not against the law

emilynghiem

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Jan 21, 2010
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Wow. What a lesson in humility. And in civics and civil obedience!

I saw clips and posts online, claiming that Mustafaa Carroll of CAIR
stated that "Muslims are above the law." Knowing him personally,
I KNEW that this had to be taken out of context. But what context?

In my greatest imagination, I could not think up what this could be.
My best guess was not even close!

I called him up and he answered me personally:

He explained the full context of his statement was
1. Muslim duty to Sharia or practice INCLUDES following the law of the land.
That's a given.

I already understand this concept because Muslims are to follow the same Bible as Christians which call for "civil obedience" to authority, so that they witness to what is right, while following civil authority standards and process of secular laws and govt. They respect that if they are truly faithful and obedient to God.

2. And his statement taken out of this context was that
if Muslims are faithful in practice, those standards go ABOVE what the law requires.
They will go ABOVE AND BEYOND.
so the laws will not affect them BECAUSE THEY ARE MEETING THEM
NOT BECAUSE THEY ARE VIOLATING THEM AS THIS WAS MISCONSTRUED.

The problem I saw with his wording, is in his video he used the terms
"above the law" but THE SPIRIT of what he meant, and how he explained more clearly
over the phone, is that Muslims would go 'above and beyond' what the law requires.
He even gave me an example:
a. the law prohibits drinking while driving, but does not forbid drinking
b. by Islam, followers would not drink either!
So of course they will not break laws against drinking and driving, but go BEYOND that standard
and not drink to the point of drunkenness in the first place!

HERE IS THE VIDEO CLIP that Mustafaa sent me:

Mustafa_MediaResponse.mp4

The only argument I have with him, I sense the video still does not explain as clearly
as he did personally over the phone. Communication, especially with a topic that has
multiple levels of meaning as in this case, is much better one-on-one as a conversation
to CONFIRM the meaning is conveyed. It is VERY HARD to describe this concept
in "one blanket statement" linearly, and be sure that it is understand by different
audiences from different contexts and perspectives.

The term "above the law" means something very negative,
and my friend Mustafaa did better when explaining it as "going above and beyond"
what the law requires.

I told him I would post this correction.

If it's clear enough, please let me know.
Or tell me how to make it shorter and more effective.
And I will send it to all the media sources who reported wrong or misinterpreted
his meaning out of context, where what he is saying is BEAUTIFUL:
it is about Civil Obedience to the laws of God which include secular govt laws as the "law of the land."

Thank you for your help to make this correction.

I will post the other misinterpretations after this,
which I knew were backwards and had to be wrong,
but I never imagined that this was how it happened!
 
Here are some reports I found that totally misconstrue and lose the meaning by twisting it around backwards:

Dallas CAIR Director: “Muslims Are Above the Law of the Land.”

Muslim Leader : "If we are practicing Muslims, we are above the law of the land". ⋆ US Herald

Compared to his presentation, the spirit of what he is saying:
Mustafa_MediaResponse.mp4

Is it clear to you that he means that Muslims FOLLOW the laws naturally? But go BEYOND what the laws require?

Or does it throw YOU for a loop that he uses the term "above the law" which is normally used to mean skirting the law?

Here's another such report:
CAIR Director: Muslims Are Above The Law - Freedom Outpost

If you were coaching him with his statement, would you have advised him to word it more carefully?
 
Does he know the Clinton's? They are in the above the law club too...

Dear owebo
Obviously he doesn't or he would not have used this term so lightly!
When I wrote back to him,
I explained using this VERY example of the Clintons as what the term means in today's media!

Thank you, Mustafaa,
your added explanation and context makes a HUGE difference.
If I didn't know you, and this was taken out of context,
it can easily be twisted to say Muslims are above the law,
instead of clearly meaning that Muslim standards
are already "above and beyond what the law requires."

"Above the law" by itself has been used as a catch phrase to mean
like Clinton and other politicians "don't have to answer to laws"
but can do what they want because of privilege and power.

You were speaking extemporaneously.
The full context and spirit is clearly NOT promoting criminal abuses against the law.
But the words in just written context, without hearing your spirit and
explanation, are just too easily construed backwards in today's media.

I can totally see how this botched perception happened
by taking that completely out of context.
 
fresh made 'taqiyah' from mustaffa !!

Dear pismoe
I think if you met him in person, you wouldn't think to talk and mock him or anyone.
He is a very nice person, positive and has nothing negative to say about people.

I guess this is a lesson in knowing people
personally before you open your mouth.

Because what comes out is totally different
when you meet in person.
 
fresh made 'taqiyah' from mustaffa !!

Dear pismoe
I think if you met him in person, you wouldn't think to talk and mock him or anyone.
He is a very nice person, positive and has nothing negative to say about people.

I guess this is a lesson in knowing people
personally before you open your mouth.

Because what comes out is totally different
when you meet in person.
---------------------------------------------------------- guy is a muslim , he lies to uphold and advance his religion , he uses mohamad approved 'taqiyah' to do that Emily !!
 

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