Constitution guarantees the right to vote - note to GOP voter suppressors

[FactFinder]

What an F'in cheap crappy thread.

 

[uscitizen]

As far as I am concerned prisoners have the right to vote.

 

[FactFinder]

As far as I am concerned prisoners have the right to vote.

Why wouldn't they?

 

[Conservative]

Then what's the problem Deanie? Id's are simple to get and for truly poor people there are programs where they can get one for free. And organizations who will gladly help them get one. So what is the problem? Fact is in Ohio you can vote from home for any reason and the only ID you need to supply is the last four of your SSN. So again, what's the problem? You really need to be specific when you accuse people of cheating........I never knew it was unconstitutional to ask for an ID.........

Check out the news. Many state legislation's became Republican after the last election on the theme of "jobs jobs jobs". Wow, Americans were really given a black eye there. Since then, Republicans have pushed a new social agenda like never before. Besides abortion and immigration, included in that social agenda was to close DMV's in poor or black areas. Keep DMV's open on weekends or with extended hours in white, Republican areas.

This has been in the news for the last 6 months. Except on Fox. They never talk about it on Fox.

But why not answer the question? Why try to keep college students, blacks, Hispanics and others from voting. Why not just put those policies out for everyone to see. Explain why rich people deserve more. Explain why oil companies need subsidies. If those policies are good for America, let everyone see those cards. Educate us. Just answer the question.

Check with your old pal, Harry Reid, and see how many House bills are DOA on his desk.

tried to explain that to him. Fuckface doesn't believe Reid would ever sit on a bill that could help promote job growth.

 

[Conservative]

I guess you have never heard of an absentee ballot by mail. Ya don't need a car ya git.


I have voted naked, in the comfort of my bed for years and years. No driving involved.

if you ever need someone to come and collect the ballot.....

is that what they call it now? 'Collecting the ballot'? I'd have thought 'stuffing the ballot box' would be more appropriate.

 

[Harry Dresden]

I guess you have never heard of an absentee ballot by mail. Ya don't need a car ya git.


I have voted naked, in the comfort of my bed for years and years. No driving involved.

It's not about "car" dumbass. It's about, well, you figure it out.

What is wrong with these right wingers?

then why did you say some people dont have cars?......she is saying you dont need a car to vote.....dumbass.....

 

[Harry Dresden]

Where did that come from? Hasn't there been about 5 or 6 cases of voter fraud, out of tens of millions of votes over the last decade? Voter fraud, not voter registration. After all, Paul Newman and Daffy Duck rarely show up to vote.

Then what's the problem Deanie? Id's are simple to get and for truly poor people there are programs where they can get one for free. And organizations who will gladly help them get one. So what is the problem? Fact is in Ohio you can vote from home for any reason and the only ID you need to supply is the last four of your SSN. So again, what's the problem? You really need to be specific when you accuse people of cheating........I never knew it was unconstitutional to ask for an ID.........

Check out the news. Many state legislation's became Republican after the last election on the theme of "jobs jobs jobs". Wow, Americans were really given a black eye there. Since then, Republicans have pushed a new social agenda like never before. Besides abortion and immigration, included in that social agenda was to close DMV's in poor or black areas. Keep DMV's open on weekends or with extended hours in white, Republican areas.

This has been in the news for the last 6 months. Except on Fox. They never talk about it on Fox.

But why not answer the question? Why try to keep college students, blacks, Hispanics and others from voting. Why not just put those policies out for everyone to see. Explain why rich people deserve more. Explain why oil companies need subsidies. If those policies are good for America, let everyone see those cards. Educate us. Just answer the question.

quit dancing Dean......he asked you about ID's not keeping DMV's open.....so like you said here.....
But why not answer the question?......why dont you?..........

 

[Conservative]

I guess you have never heard of an absentee ballot by mail. Ya don't need a car ya git.


I have voted naked, in the comfort of my bed for years and years. No driving involved.

It's not about "car" dumbass. It's about, well, you figure it out.

What is wrong with these right wingers?

then why did you say some people dont have cars?......she is saying you dont need a car to vote.....dumbass.....

he can't even remember what he posts, and it's right there in front of him on the screen!

 

[Harry Dresden]

It's not about "car" dumbass. It's about, well, you figure it out.

What is wrong with these right wingers?

then why did you say some people dont have cars?......she is saying you dont need a car to vote.....dumbass.....

he can't even remember what he posts, and it's right there in front of him on the screen!

as Deans threads go on he tends to dance himself into corners......and then,90% of the time he usually will dance over to another thread....

 

[oreo]

What's the matter deanie, did someone card you again?

Deanie-is-just pissed--because most polling locations around this country still ask for an I.D. before handing out a ballot--and that upset's the flow of fraud--and ACORN activists.

And I imagine when democrats and Obama get their tails waxed in 2012--Deanie will come back and say they lost because Republicans were obstructing the democrat vote-in one way or another--

 

[Contumacious]

Constitution guarantees the right to vote - note to GOP voter suppressors.

Really?

The individual citizen has no federal constitutional right to vote for electors for the President of the United States


Bush v. Gore, 121 S.Ct. 525, 121 S.Ct. 525, 531 U.S. 98, 531 U.S. 98, 148 L.Ed.2d 388, 148 L.Ed.2d 388 (U.S. 12/12/2000)

 

[Wry Catcher]

so, I can, by your logic, I can vote in any election I want, regardless of whether or not I should, because I can? And there should be nothing done to prevent this?

You can also rob and store you like, and there is nothing to be done to prevent it unless probable cause exists.

So.. the shop owner is not allowed to install theft deterrent devices? Interesting. I bet the shop owner wasn't aware of that. You should report him for violating my right to rob him.

moron.

No, you're an idiot. Such a device cannot prevent a robbery. A masked gunman for example, and by the way, man traps are illegal in most jurisdictions.

 

[Wry Catcher]

Constitution guarantees the right to vote - note to GOP voter suppressors.

Really?

The individual citizen has no federal constitutional right to vote for electors for the President of the United States


Bush v. Gore, 121 S.Ct. 525, 121 S.Ct. 525, 531 U.S. 98, 531 U.S. 98, 148 L.Ed.2d 388, 148 L.Ed.2d 388 (U.S. 12/12/2000)

Article II, Sec. 1, clause 2 & 3 explains the issue very clearly.

 

[jillian]

No it's not, moron. At least not in our theory of jurisprudence. One is innocent until proven guilty. Voter fraud is a crime, you cannot deny the right of a citizen to vote by whim, the color of the persons skin or the cut of their cloth - even though that is what you would like.

so, I can, by your logic, I can vote in any election I want, regardless of whether or not I should, because I can? And there should be nothing done to prevent this?

You can also rob and store you like, and there is nothing to be done to prevent it unless probable cause exists.

my head started to hurt reading the above exchange.

unfortunately, there is no voters rights act. there should be. but there isn't. and as pointed out (however inartfully) there really isn't a protected federal right to vote for presidential electors. i wouldn't use bush v gore in support of that proposition, though, because that decision specifically states it has no value as precedent (which is why it was a scam... but that's for another thread).

however, the effort to force people to prove their identity is very much an effort to suppress votes. it has nothing to do with "voter fraud" which the rightwingnuts keep screeching about. voter fraud is really a de minimis problem. it's a means of causing inconvenience and harship which they believe keeps voter count low... something that almost always benefits republicans.

it's really not that complicated.

 

[rdean]

Can you believe these idiots? They don't see the connection between cars and the DMV.

Worse, they insist they love America and the constitution yet applaud their leaders shitting on the poor. What has happened to the right wing? Applauding death? Admiring voter suppression? Defending subsidies to oil companies? Defending ever more tax breaks for billionaires? Even more anti science every day?

What is it that has driven these people to become reckless and dangerous? Bringing down the country doesn't help either them or their families.

 

[rdean]

Then what's the problem Deanie? Id's are simple to get and for truly poor people there are programs where they can get one for free. And organizations who will gladly help them get one. So what is the problem? Fact is in Ohio you can vote from home for any reason and the only ID you need to supply is the last four of your SSN. So again, what's the problem? You really need to be specific when you accuse people of cheating........I never knew it was unconstitutional to ask for an ID.........

Check out the news. Many state legislation's became Republican after the last election on the theme of "jobs jobs jobs". Wow, Americans were really given a black eye there. Since then, Republicans have pushed a new social agenda like never before. Besides abortion and immigration, included in that social agenda was to close DMV's in poor or black areas. Keep DMV's open on weekends or with extended hours in white, Republican areas.

This has been in the news for the last 6 months. Except on Fox. They never talk about it on Fox.

But why not answer the question? Why try to keep college students, blacks, Hispanics and others from voting. Why not just put those policies out for everyone to see. Explain why rich people deserve more. Explain why oil companies need subsidies. If those policies are good for America, let everyone see those cards. Educate us. Just answer the question.

you... are certifiably bat shit crazy. take your meds, Shirley.

You can't disagree with anything I said. We both know you can't.

 

[FactFinder]

Can you believe these idiots? They don't see the connection between cars and the DMV.

Worse, they insist they love America and the constitution yet applaud their leaders shitting on the poor. What has happened to the right wing? Applauding death? Admiring voter suppression? Defending subsidies to oil companies? Defending ever more tax breaks for billionaires? Even more anti science every day?

What is it that has driven these people to become reckless and dangerous? Bringing down the country doesn't help either them or their families.

I see it as the blind leading the blind. I damn sure do not agree with left wing liberalism and the right has become so brainwashed by just the narrow interests of their corporate wing that they have lost even the abiltiy to participate as a human being. When corporate profits and corporate well being is the goal without regard to the individual American we have come to a dark dark age where even Mr. Lincoln would bow his head in shame at the cold hearted money grubbing party that he once claimed as his home.

 

[Harry Dresden]

Can you believe these idiots? They don't see the connection between cars and the DMV.

Worse, they insist they love America and the constitution yet applaud their leaders shitting on the poor. What has happened to the right wing? Applauding death? Admiring voter suppression? Defending subsidies to oil companies? Defending ever more tax breaks for billionaires? Even more anti science every day?

What is it that has driven these people to become reckless and dangerous? Bringing down the country doesn't help either them or their families.

whats the connection Dean?.....you implied that some people dont have cars.....how can they get to a polling place.....Syrenn pointed out,you dont need a car to vote.....you can vote by mail....is she wrong?.......why do you think the "poor" are so incompetent that they just cant seem to get these things done?.....

 

[Intense]

No it's not, moron. At least not in our theory of jurisprudence. One is innocent until proven guilty. Voter fraud is a crime, you cannot deny the right of a citizen to vote by whim, the color of the persons skin or the cut of their cloth - even though that is what you would like.

so, I can, by your logic, I can vote in any election I want, regardless of whether or not I should, because I can? And there should be nothing done to prevent this?

You can also rob and store you like, and there is nothing to be done to prevent it unless probable cause exists.

No. An Individual has every Right to protect and defend. A Police Officer needs probable cause. Private Property is just what it says.

 

[Intense]

Can you believe these idiots? They don't see the connection between cars and the DMV.

Worse, they insist they love America and the constitution yet applaud their leaders shitting on the poor. What has happened to the right wing? Applauding death? Admiring voter suppression? Defending subsidies to oil companies? Defending ever more tax breaks for billionaires? Even more anti science every day?

What is it that has driven these people to become reckless and dangerous? Bringing down the country doesn't help either them or their families.

whats the connection Dean?.....you implied that some people dont have cars.....how can they get to a polling place.....Syrenn pointed out,you dont need a car to vote.....you can vote by mail....is she wrong?.......why do you think the "poor" are so incompetent that they just cant seem to get these things done?.....

Makes one wonder how they could possibly ever find their way to the Welfare or Unemployment Office.