Conservatives need to regroup

[boedicca]

We need to promote strong families to raise healthy children who grow into productive adults. This is a natural, basic value for most people, but the Left tries to turn it into extremism.

 

[Tresha91203]

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the fact is we are a minority. While Trump is doing more for conservatives than I expected, more people voted against him and his policies and we just got our butts kicked in the house races. Part of that could be trump but I think the bigger problem is we are fighting the culture.

We need to regroup.

We need to stop conceding elections by letting democrats run unopposed or essentially unopposed.

We need to be out there teaching people why conservatism and the Constitution work. We need to teach people how the free market is supposed to work. We are fighting decades of indoctrination against these things.

We need to not just win arguments, we need to persuade people our ideas are better and bring them to our side.

We can’t just right off more than half the country

People didn't really vote against his policies; they voted against him, his bizarre personality, and his entourage of billionaires and others of questionable intent (Zinke, Pruitt, etc.), Republicans think they need Trump, but they really don't. He is a bandaid fix that is soon going to become an anchor.

Quite possibly, but you've got to admit the shake-up was needed.

 

[BrokeLoser]

the fact is we are a minority. While Trump is doing more for conservatives than I expected, more people voted against him and his policies and we just got our butts kicked in the house races. Part of that could be trump but I think the bigger problem is we are fighting the culture.

We need to regroup.

We need to stop conceding elections by letting democrats run unopposed or essentially unopposed.

We need to be out there teaching people why conservatism and the Constitution work. We need to teach people how the free market is supposed to work. We are fighting decades of indoctrination against these things.

We need to not just win arguments, we need to persuade people our ideas are better and bring them to our side.

We can’t just right off more than half the country

Conservatives need to stop lying.

Conservatives need to stop with the fear-mongering and demagoguery.

Conservatives need to stop being frightened of change, diversity, and inclusion.

Conservatives need to stop being misogynists, bigots, and racists.

Conservatives need to stop being authoritarian ideologues blindly adhering to their failed, wrong-headed political doctrine and dogma.

Conservatives must stop trying to compel conformity, stop opposing the rights and protected liberties of the American people, and end their unwarranted hostility toward immigrants, gay Americans, transgender Americans, and the privacy rights of women.

Absent these changes conservatives will continue to be an opposed and rejected minority, and appropriately so.

I don’t ever see politicians being 100% truthful.
I don’t ever see Conservatives embracing wetbacks.
I don’t ever see Conservatives disregarding biology and embracing gender choice.
I don’t ever see Conservatives supporting baby killing.
I don’t ever see Conservatives embracing an anything goes, no boundaries type of society.
I always see Conservatives setting a standard and having expectations of fellow countrymen.

 

[Rustic]

the fact is we are a minority. While Trump is doing more for conservatives than I expected, more people voted against him and his policies and we just got our butts kicked in the house races. Part of that could be trump but I think the bigger problem is we are fighting the culture.

We need to regroup.

We need to stop conceding elections by letting democrats run unopposed or essentially unopposed.

We need to be out there teaching people why conservatism and the Constitution work. We need to teach people how the free market is supposed to work. We are fighting decades of indoctrination against these things.

We need to not just win arguments, we need to persuade people our ideas are better and bring them to our side.

We can’t just right off more than half the country

One party rule is the goal of progressives...

 

[Rustic]

The traditional American family is unacceptable to the progressive... no two ways about it

 

[JWBooth]

the fact is we are a minority. While Trump is doing more for conservatives than I expected, more people voted against him and his policies and we just got our butts kicked in the house races. Part of that could be trump but I think the bigger problem is we are fighting the culture.

We need to regroup.

We need to stop conceding elections by letting democrats run unopposed or essentially unopposed.

We need to be out there teaching people why conservatism and the Constitution work. We need to teach people how the free market is supposed to work. We are fighting decades of indoctrination against these things.

We need to not just win arguments, we need to persuade people our ideas are better and bring them to our side.

We can’t just right off more than half the country

Well, first they can either start being conservative or quit misapplying the term. Find some heroes are rooted in a philosophy that predates the Reagan administration.
I was and am a fan of RR, but I also acknowledge that he was all hat and no cattle when it came to being a conservative. Net taxes increased and nowhere was even the rate of growth of government decreased.
In reality what is actually conservative is pretty radical by the standards of the day. Read Smedley Butler, Albert Nock, H. L. Mencken, Herbert Spencer, the Anti-Federalist papers, and Russell Kirk, and Robert Taft, then get back to me. Toss aside anything written or advocated on the right since 1960 and advocate more anarchy, personal liberties and far less war welfare statism. Maybe then you might start getting some attention.

 

[Oddball]

Conservatism and the Constitution are antithetical to each other.

There is nothing in the Constitution that gives corporations or the church any authority.

It is Liberals that represent what the Constitution stands for. That is why the people are waking up to that fact. Liberalism comes naturally. Conservatism has to be taught. That’s why it requires a constant bullshit rant in order to work.

 

[Oddball]

What does "regroup" mean?

It means get your shit together and quit lying about being the agent of smaller gubmint.

 

[boedicca]

The traditional American family is unacceptable to the progressive... no two ways about it

Partially correct. Prog-Dem elites personally live according to traditional bourgeois values (education, two parent families, financially responsible for themselves) - but encourage poor people to abandon such values and to be dependent upon the state.

 

[Silhouette]

The traditional American family is unacceptable to the progressive... no two ways about it

More importantly from a stance of winning elections, deranged males sharing women’s intimate hygiene areas by force of law is unacceptable to 90+% of all moderate voters.

Too bad the GOP missed those figures. Could’ve been cheaply & easily derived by doing an anonymous phone survey.

 

[PoliticalChic]

The traditional American family is unacceptable to the progressive... no two ways about it

Partially correct. Prog-Dem elites personally live according to traditional bourgeois values (education, two parent families, financially responsible for themselves) - but encourage poor people to abandon such values and to be dependent upon the state.

Nail on the head!!!!


1. They pretend to get behind the poor personal choices of the lower class!


There is a certain kind of obfuscation involved, as when the upper class, the elites, recognize the truth in traditional morality....but pretend that they endorse the "if it feels good, do it" morality of Leftism.


2. In his best-seller, "Coming Apart: The State of White America, 1960-2010,"
Charles Murray points out the subterfuge, and demands, for the sake of society, that the elites point out the errors of poor life choices, and speak up!



3. "One change in societal attitude has been the “ecumenical niceness”…don’t fight, share toys, take turns….and never, ever be judgmental. As a result, the upper cultural class, which has stabilized by returning to more traditional ways, survives, yet these individuals will not criticize the behaviors which are destroying the lower cultural class."
Charles Murray


a. Low class morality:
“For Women Under 30, Most Births Occur Outside Marriage”For Women Under 30, Most Births Occur Outside Marriage


b. What the elites do:
“One group still largely resists the trend: college graduates, who overwhelmingly marry before having children. That is turning family structure into a new class divide, …”
Ibid.



4. Murray uses a phrase that incorporates the wisdom of traditional morality:
"The elites must preach what they practice."

That means not only epitomize traditional morality in their own behaviors....but have the courage to criticize the aberrant behaviors that are the cause of poverty and crime.


Yup....be judgmental.

 

[Rocko]

Trump said it was a “complete victory”?

Was he lying?

Trump lies constantly. Exaggerates. Again that’s why I didn’t vote for him

What politician doesn’t lie and exaggerate?

 

[JWBooth]

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Stealing it.

 

[Faun]

We need to promote strong families to raise healthy children who grow into productive adults. This is a natural, basic value for most people, but the Left tries to turn it into extremism.

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Sorry, but the right can’t promote family values while we have a Republican president who cheated on all three of his wives, bragged about adultery, bragged about sexually assaulting women, fantasized about dating a 20 year old when she was just 10 years old, etc., etc., etc.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

The traditional American family is unacceptable to the progressive... no two ways about it

Yes, just grab them by the ass, kiss them without permission, fantacise about dating a 10 year old when she turns 20, say that if your Daughter wasn't your Daughter, you would be dating her, Shall I keep going? This is the traditional Family values of the Party of Trump. Sorry, the GOP is pretty much broken up right now. It's not the GOP, it's the Party of Trump. As long as the head of the Party of Trump is Trump, there can be no family values.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

the fact is we are a minority. While Trump is doing more for conservatives than I expected, more people voted against him and his policies and we just got our butts kicked in the house races. Part of that could be trump but I think the bigger problem is we are fighting the culture.

We need to regroup.

We need to stop conceding elections by letting democrats run unopposed or essentially unopposed.

We need to be out there teaching people why conservatism and the Constitution work. We need to teach people how the free market is supposed to work. We are fighting decades of indoctrination against these things.

We need to not just win arguments, we need to persuade people our ideas are better and bring them to our side.

We can’t just right off more than half the country

One party rule is the goal of progressives...

If you had your way, you would have installed Trump as king and he would have sent prison trucks out to gather up everyone that disagreed with him or didn't give him their total loyalty. And then you would support him when you would construct that golden Image of himself in front of the Whitehouse.

 

[Billy000]

the fact is we are a minority. While Trump is doing more for conservatives than I expected, more people voted against him and his policies and we just got our butts kicked in the house races. Part of that could be trump but I think the bigger problem is we are fighting the culture.

We need to regroup.

We need to stop conceding elections by letting democrats run unopposed or essentially unopposed.

We need to be out there teaching people why conservatism and the Constitution work. We need to teach people how the free market is supposed to work. We are fighting decades of indoctrination against these things.

We need to not just win arguments, we need to persuade people our ideas are better and bring them to our side.

We can’t just right off more than half the country

You’re a dying breed. A generation from now, you’ll have no voice and thank god.

 

[Billy000]

It’s still highly likely the left will take over power in the US again someday.
It may take America experiencing real Marxist tyranny before we ultimately reject the radical left. Of course tens of millions will die in the process as every incarnation of Marxism has shown us.

Do you notice how you NEVER hear liberals say that everyone should be paid equally regardless of the work? It’s because they don’t. You delude yourself into thinking otherwise. I don’t understand it.

 

[SweetSue92]

the fact is we are a minority. While Trump is doing more for conservatives than I expected, more people voted against him and his policies and we just got our butts kicked in the house races. Part of that could be trump but I think the bigger problem is we are fighting the culture.

We need to regroup.

We need to stop conceding elections by letting democrats run unopposed or essentially unopposed.

We need to be out there teaching people why conservatism and the Constitution work. We need to teach people how the free market is supposed to work. We are fighting decades of indoctrination against these things.

We need to not just win arguments, we need to persuade people our ideas are better and bring them to our side.

We can’t just right off more than half the country

You’re a dying breed. A generation from now, you’ll have no voice and thank god.

Yes, that Socialist Utopia is just around the corner!!!

It's always worked so well in the past....all we have to do is suppress all the voices.....

 

[Billy000]

the fact is we are a minority. While Trump is doing more for conservatives than I expected, more people voted against him and his policies and we just got our butts kicked in the house races. Part of that could be trump but I think the bigger problem is we are fighting the culture.

We need to regroup.

We need to stop conceding elections by letting democrats run unopposed or essentially unopposed.

We need to be out there teaching people why conservatism and the Constitution work. We need to teach people how the free market is supposed to work. We are fighting decades of indoctrination against these things.

We need to not just win arguments, we need to persuade people our ideas are better and bring them to our side.

We can’t just right off more than half the country

You’re a dying breed. A generation from now, you’ll have no voice and thank god.

Yes, that Socialist Utopia is just around the corner!!!

It's always worked so well in the past....all we have to do is suppress all the voices.....

Well, you have no earthly idea what socialism is but god bless you anyway.