Conservatives don't know what insurance is or what insurance companies do.

[The Derp]

private insurance is not capitalist insurance. When you have capitalist insurance there is life and death competition to produce satisfied customers. 1+1=2

All private insurance does is give providers and drug companies the leverage to gouge prices.

 

[The Derp]

any capitalist business takes all the fees necessary to cover all its costs and thus capitalist countries are far wealthier than socialist countries. Ever heard of East/West Germany? This is because capitalism provides a life and death incentive to lower costs and raise quality. A liberal is a liberal simply because he lacks the IQ to understand capitalism.

So that must be why the economy always does better when a Democrat is President as opposed to a Republican?

 

[The Derp]

why not?? It would cost more but there is no reason why insurance companies would not be happy to sell it to you/

It would cost patients more. So you want patients to spend money on insurance that they otherwise would spend in the consumer economy?

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

private insurance is not capitalist insurance. When you have capitalist insurance there is life and death competition to produce satisfied customers. 1+1=2

All private insurance does is give providers and drug companies the leverage to gouge prices.

That is why Republicans favor capitalist insurance companies do you know what capitalism is?notice that when a liberal and libertarian meet the libertarian must run a kindergarten for the liberal.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

why not?? It would cost more but there is no reason why insurance companies would not be happy to sell it to you/

It would cost patients more. So you want patients to spend money on insurance that they otherwise would spend in the consumer economy?

Now that is really stupid. Either way money is spent on the person with a pre-existing condition so that he can have healthcare. Do you understand That in either case the money comes out of the consumer Economy.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

any capitalist business takes all the fees necessary to cover all its costs and thus capitalist countries are far wealthier than socialist countries. Ever heard of East/West Germany? This is because capitalism provides a life and death incentive to lower costs and raise quality. A liberal is a liberal simply because he lacks the IQ to understand capitalism.

So that must be why the economy always does better when a Democrat is President as opposed to a Republican?

100% stupid as always given the president doesn't run the economy. President inherents an economy that moves in long cycles. FDR and Obama presided over continuous depressions or recessions

 

[The Derp]

That is why Republicans favor capitalist insurance companies do you know what capitalism is?notice that when a liberal and libertarian meet the libertarian must run a kindergarten for the liberal.

The Republicans in 2003 passed Medicare Part-D which prohibited Medicare from using its leverage as the largest buyer of prescription drugs. Why?

 

[The Derp]

Now that is really stupid. Either way money is spent on the person with a pre-existing condition so that he can have healthcare. Do you understand That in either case the money comes out of the consumer Economy.

I've been the one telling you the money gets pulled from the consumer economy to pay for health insurance. You're the one arguing that people with pre-existing conditions should pay more.

WTF??????

 

[The Derp]

100% stupid as always given the president doesn't run the economy. President inherents an economy that moves in long cycles. FDR and Obama presided over continuous depressions or recessions

Both of which started before FDR and Obama were even in office.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

100% stupid as always given the president doesn't run the economy. President inherents an economy that moves in long cycles. FDR and Obama presided over continuous depressions or recessions

Both of which started before FDR and Obama were even in office.

so FDR prolonged the Depression for 16 years but it had nothing to do with him? and Democrats always have better economies? Stupid!!!!

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Now that is really stupid. Either way money is spent on the person with a pre-existing condition so that he can have healthcare. Do you understand That in either case the money comes out of the consumer Economy.

I've been the one telling you the money gets pulled from the consumer economy to pay for health insurance. You're the one arguing that people with pre-existing conditions should pay more.

WTF??????

exactly either people with preexisting conditions pay or society does or both but any way the money is spent on health care not on consumer goods. got it now?
Real question is do we want capitalism or socialism. Hint : ever heard of West East Germany?

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

That is why Republicans favor capitalist insurance companies do you know what capitalism is?notice that when a liberal and libertarian meet the libertarian must run a kindergarten for the liberal.

The Republicans in 2003 passed Medicare Part-D which prohibited Medicare from using its leverage as the largest buyer of prescription drugs. Why?

they understand capitalism 1+1=2 extortion is not capitalism

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

why not?? It would cost more but there is no reason why insurance companies would not be happy to sell it to you/

It would cost patients more. So you want patients to spend money on insurance that they otherwise would spend in the consumer economy?

none of my business if someone wants to buy a Rolls Royce rather than a Chevy I don't care. Do you??????

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

So that must be why the economy always does better when a Democrat is President as opposed to a Republican?

so the Great Depression was an example of an economy doing well??

 

[The Derp]

so the Great Depression was an example of an economy doing well??

The Great Depression started when a Republican was President, and Republicans controlled both houses of Congress.

 

[The Derp]

none of my business if someone wants to buy a Rolls Royce rather than a Chevy I don't care. Do you??????

But it is your business. You claim to be one of these "business people". A lack of consumer demand will most definitely affect your business. We're not talking about choosing between two different car brands, we are talking about choosing where consumers spend their money in the economy; on the consumer side -which is 70% of our economy- or on the health care side -which is 20% of our economy. Paying more for health care doesn't increase the need to hire more labor. But spending more in the consumer economy does increase the need to hire more labor. So you're making a false choice here because you are assuming that money spent in the consumer economy has the same effect as money spent in the health care economy. But it isn't.

 

[The Derp]

they understand capitalism 1+1=2 extortion is not capitalism

How is letting Medicare use its leverage as the largest payer in the market to bargain for cheaper prescription drugs, "extortion"?

 

[The Derp]

exactly either people with preexisting conditions pay or society does or both but any way the money is spent on health care not on consumer goods. got it now?

Actually, doofus, no. The larger the insurance pool, the lower the premiums. That's why every other first world country spends half as much of a % of GDP as we do on health care while getting better outcomes.

You all just don't want to admit the profit motive tied to administration is what's spiking costs in this country, even though you clearly understand how and why. So are you defending this system because you feel the need to be a contrarian, because you need attention, or because you are painfully unaware of the self-contradiction in your argument?

 

[The Derp]

so FDR prolonged the Depression for 16 years but it had nothing to do with him? and Democrats always have better economies? Stupid!!!!

The economy improved significantly during FDR. You are speaking nonsense now.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

so FDR prolonged the Depression for 16 years but it had nothing to do with him? and Democrats always have better economies? Stupid!!!!

The economy improved significantly during FDR. You are speaking nonsense now.

100% wrong!! FDR was 100% Depression and World War. Worst possible results but what we expect from idiotic liberalism! Obama was second most liberal and had second worst economy.