Congressman admits saying, 'Liberals hate real Americans'

[Annie]

Your not saying that the right doesn't hate anybody do you? Just wondering.

Do I strike you as stupid enough to claim such?

 

[CornbreadOracle]

I don't hate America.

So therefore your logic is wrong.

Do you oppose capitalism? Economic freedom is the truest form of freedom.

Do you support gun control? The right to bear arms against our gov't assures us all our other rights.

Do you acknowledge that your rights as a citizen as enumerated in the Constitution are God given and inalienable? (ie, gov't can't take your God given rights away, but is capable of preventing you from exercising them)


A REAL American would know how to answer those questions. Liberals don't. Call me a conservative wingnut if you wish. I also happen to be correct in this.

 

[Modbert]

Do I strike you as stupid enough to claim such?

Nope, which is why I asked. Since you don't come off like that.

 

[AVG-JOE]

Yes. Still doesn't mean the Congressman was wrong.

Liberals DO hate America.

Liberals seem to want "America" to include more Americans... Conservatives seem to want to exclude those who don't share their beliefs.

My mamma taught me that exclusionary practices equate to 'hate'.

-Joe

 

[CornbreadOracle]

Liberals seem to want "America" to include more Americans... Conservatives seem to want to exclude those who don't share their beliefs.

My mamma taught me that exclusionary practices equate to 'hate'.

-Joe

You're assuming wrongly about conservatives. The only Americans we want to see excluded are the America hating libs whom we would love to see voluntarily live out their continued threats to move elsewhere if So-And-So Republican is elected.

 

[dilloduck]

Liberals seem to want "America" to include more Americans... Conservatives seem to want to exclude those who don't share their beliefs.

My mamma taught me that exclusionary practices equate to 'hate'.

-Joe

I've always been curious---just where do white men, gun enthusiasts and Christians sit in the democratic tent ?

 

[AVG-JOE]

Do you oppose capitalism? Economic freedom is the truest form of freedom.

America has never been purely capitalistic. We have always had government influence in the economy. Do you support capitalism? True capitalism would require you to allow drug trafficking, sex industry, abortion clinics etc. to operate in your neighborhood. Are you thinking maybe a little government intervention might make for a better neighborhood?

Do you support gun control? The right to bear arms against our gov't assures us all our other rights.

I support the right of every neighborhood to decide for themselves. Guns in West Texas? O.K. - Guns in central DC? Maybe not such a good idea...

Do you acknowledge that your rights as a citizen as enumerated in the Constitution are God given and inalienable? (ie, gov't can't take your God given rights away, but is capable of preventing you from exercising them)

According to the Constitution, my 'inalienable' rights are endowed by 'my creator', which is not necessarily the same as your 'God'. Either way they are only as valid as the government that guarantees them.

A REAL American would know how to answer those questions. Liberals don't. Call me a conservative wingnut if you wish. I also happen to be correct in this.

O.k., you're a conservative wing-nut. And I disagree with you. REAL Americans know that they're entitled to answer those questions, in agreement or opposition to you and me, in the privacy of their own hearts.

-Joe

 

[AVG-JOE]

You're assuming wrongly about conservatives. The only Americans we want to see excluded are the America hating libs whom we would love to see voluntarily live out their continued threats to move elsewhere if So-And-So Republican is elected.

Please define 'America hating lib'...

-Joe

 

[AVG-JOE]

I've always been curious---just where do white men, gun enthusiasts and Christians sit in the democratic tent ?

Isn't America the place where you can plant your ass wherever you want?

-Joe

 

[CornbreadOracle]

America has never been purely capitalistic. We have always had government influence in the economy. Do you support capitalism? True capitalism would require you to allow drug trafficking, sex industry, abortion clinics etc. to operate in your neighborhood. Are you thinking maybe a little government intervention might make for a better neighborhood?

I DO support capitalism. I certainly don't OPPOSE it, as does William Ayers and, I believe, Barack Obama. I believe in American exceptionalism, which means that I believe the average American citizen is better equiped to spend his (or her) own money than Congress could do it.

I support the right of every neighborhood to decide for themselves. Guns in West Texas? O.K. - Guns in central DC? Maybe not such a good idea...

Guns in central DC would stop a lot of muggings. Nothing says "don't mess with me" like a good conceal and carry law.

According to the Constitution, my 'inalienable' rights are endowed by 'my creator', which is not necessarily the same as your 'God'. Either way they are only as valid as the government that guarantees them.

Semantics. DOesn't sound like we disagree too much here. Good show.

O.k., you're a conservative wing-nut. And I disagree with you. REAL Americans know that they're entitled to answer those questions, in agreement or opposition to you and me, in the privacy of their own hearts.

You can disagree -- but I'm still right.

 

[Larkinn]

Do you oppose capitalism? Economic freedom is the truest form of freedom.

Do you support gun control? The right to bear arms against our gov't assures us all our other rights.

Do you acknowledge that your rights as a citizen as enumerated in the Constitution are God given and inalienable? (ie, gov't can't take your God given rights away, but is capable of preventing you from exercising them)

A REAL American would know how to answer those questions. Liberals don't. Call me a conservative wingnut if you wish. I also happen to be correct in this.

We tried this once before with a swell guy named McCarthy. He thought you should be branded, based on your beliefs, pro or anti-American. It caused a witch hunt and divided this country.

America is about inclusiveness. Its about freedom of speech. Its about tolerance, and accepting others even if you disagree with them. Calling others anti-American because you don't agree with their views is fucking retarded.

Yeah, your a conservative wingnut. But despite the idiotic, moronic, contradictory, asinine point of view you share, liberals would still fight for you to have that ability to share that view. THAT is Americanism, a view you don't seem to share.

 

[Larkinn]

I've always been curious---just where do white men, gun enthusiasts and Christians sit in the democratic tent ?

White men sit front and center, since the large majority of Democrats in Congress/House are white men. Gee...that was hard.

 

[CornbreadOracle]

We tried this once before with a swell guy named McCarthy. He thought you should be branded, based on your beliefs, pro or anti-American. It caused a witch hunt and divided this country.

America is about inclusiveness. Its about freedom of speech. Its about tolerance, and accepting others even if you disagree with them. Calling others anti-American because you don't agree with their views is fucking retarded.

Yeah, your a conservative wingnut. But despite the idiotic, moronic, contradictory, asinine point of view you share, liberals would still fight for you to have that ability to share that view. THAT is Americanism, a view you don't seem to share.

Actually, the communist Hollywood reaction to McCarthy caused a witchhunt that divided this country. McCarthy was a great American.

Also, I fully recognize that you have every right as an American to be anti-American. Also, as an American, I have every right to call you on it. Deal with it.

 

[Larkinn]

Actually, the communist Hollywood reaction to McCarthy caused a witchhunt that divided this country. McCarthy was a great American.

Jesus, you are fucking insane. I didn't know there were still people around who liked McCarthy.

Also, I fully recognize that you have every right as an American to be anti-American. Also, as an American, I have every right to call you on it. Deal with it.

Sure you have a right to do it. But your wrong, and your acting like a shitbag. But go for it, as a conservative you should be used to it by now.

 

[Annie]

Thanks to the internet and the ability to make things go 'bye', it's much more dangerous than the days of McCarthy. I went looking for things I saw today, they are 'gone.'

 

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Remember, if your state votes Democrat then your a treason making terrorist who is out to destroy America.

that's because real Americans... ol Johnny 6 pack ... johnny crack rock and there sisters are a bunch of crass Neanderthals...its all about being international...global...elite..that whole real American is so 1986.....

 

[Larkinn]

Thanks to the internet and the ability to make things go 'bye', it's much more dangerous than the days of McCarthy. I went looking for things I saw today, they are 'gone.'

Not so much, no. Things now stay around a LOT longer. See the recent debacles around Bachmann and Hayes who both lied about what they said, only to have the video come out.

And whatever you found is probably cached somewhere even if it did disappear. Or more likely you just can't find it again.

 

[WillowTree]

First of all, I voted for Bush twice. Second of all, as I need remind you, I'm a centrist, not a liberal, not a conservative. Do I need to change my name to Centrist? Where are you, Shattered?

Lastly, there is a difference between criticizing Bush and thinking that he is wrong for America (and let's face it, he was) and calling people who don't support your candidate un-American or anti-American. This is no longer Jeffersonianism vs. Hamiltonism or Democrat vs. Republican where they're both good guys and you have to make the choice between two people who both have great ideas for the country. This is calling people who do not support Republicans un or anti-Americans. From Congresswoman Bachmann saying we need some 1950s era McCarthy-like investigation in Congress as to how is pro and who is anti-American, to this numbnut, to Sarah Palin addressing "pro-American" crowds. If these fucking morons will remember, an area of this country that they would consider un-American was viciously attacked 7 years ago and I lost a lot of friends on that day. The story was throughout the country that on that day, we were all New Yorkers. We are ALL Americans, Willow. Now I can sit here and I can have a debate with you over your philosophy of what is best for this country, but in the end we aren't going to change each other's minds and we'll both walk away hopefully learning something new about the other person's ideology. That's how political debate and political elections should be.

Listen, I understand the conservative argument. I understand the liberal argument. They're both great arguments and they both want what's best for this country. Liberals did not say "Those who support President Bush are anti-American" and throw all of his supporters under the bus. On 9/11, every single one of us joined together with President Bush and stood as one nation. I supported him when he sent 60,000 troops into Afghanistan and believe me, I didn't shed one tear when we invaded Iraq to capture Saddam. In 2004, the flip-flopper Kerry had no idea if he voted for or against the war, and his choice of a running-mate was God awfull. I thought it was too risky to change Presidents in a time of war. I was wrong. But voting either way or disagreeing with someone's philosophy over how this country should be run, does not make you less American. In fact, the very freedom that we so cherish to question our leaders and decide if he is or isn't right for this country, I think, makes you MORE American.

The Right is trying to pull out all the stops to scare Americans. I'm surprised they haven't connected Obama with Vladamir Lenin yet or they haven't said America is going to be absorbed into the new USSR. The right is using EVERY single way possible to scare us into voting for McCain... Obama's too risky, Obama's connected to Wright, to Ayres, to this guy, to that guy... he's a socialist, he's going to take away your money and give it to someone else... it's scary to look at some of the things the Republicans are pulling to make us vote for McCain and elections should not be decided upon fear. They should be decided upon who the American people think is best for this country and will lead this country in the right path. Anti-American... what bullshit.

I don't think the right is trying to scare anybody. I think the right is scared of Obama and his associations. The left however is waging their war based on calling people racist, and on class warfare, "we're gonna take what the rich have and give it to you, it's not fair for them to be rich and for you to be poor" "we're gonna make sure the rich are more patriotic and give you their money"


so I say if you don't want to wage this kind of warfare then don't do it. If you call a certain sect of people unpatriotic, bible hugging, gun hugging, slack jawed, redneck, racist Americans (and all of this has been said by the Obama side) then expect to get some flack back and don't expect me to get all up in arms about your indignation.

 

[WillowTree]

Do liberals hate the extreme right wing part of America?

so far from what I have read liberals hate these things in America. Republicans
Bush, Cheney, McCain, Palin, Hillary (And anybody else who disagrees with them) rich white people, capitalism, our healthcare system, most of our laws, christianity, Fox News, Talk radio, our healthcare system, and guns just to name a few Things are American. Liberals will try to rid themselves of them, they have said so. Therefore the conclusion is liberals hate America. They want to make it something entirely different than what it is. So, they have put forth a candidate who like liberals grew up with a pastor who taught him to hate rich white people, capitalism, a friend who would help him try to radicalize education in Chicago, a friend who hated America so much he bombed her buildings and hurt some of her people. The liberals have put forth a candidate who would take money from the rich and redistribuite it to the poor, who has voted against citizens carrying concealed weapons, who has said "without Fox News I would be furthur ahead in the polls." Liberals have put forth a candidate who would take on global poverty and expect the American taxpayer to pay for that fight to the tune of 850 billion dollars. Yep, there could be something to why the congressman thinks liberals hate America.

 

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