Annie
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Your not saying that the right doesn't hate anybody do you? Just wondering.
Do I strike you as stupid enough to claim such?
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Your not saying that the right doesn't hate anybody do you? Just wondering.
I don't hate America.
So therefore your logic is wrong.
Yes. Still doesn't mean the Congressman was wrong.
Liberals DO hate America.
Liberals seem to want "America" to include more Americans... Conservatives seem to want to exclude those who don't share their beliefs.
My mamma taught me that exclusionary practices equate to 'hate'.
-Joe
Liberals seem to want "America" to include more Americans... Conservatives seem to want to exclude those who don't share their beliefs.
My mamma taught me that exclusionary practices equate to 'hate'.
-Joe
Do you oppose capitalism? Economic freedom is the truest form of freedom.
Do you support gun control? The right to bear arms against our gov't assures us all our other rights.
Do you acknowledge that your rights as a citizen as enumerated in the Constitution are God given and inalienable? (ie, gov't can't take your God given rights away, but is capable of preventing you from exercising them)
A REAL American would know how to answer those questions. Liberals don't. Call me a conservative wingnut if you wish. I also happen to be correct in this.
You're assuming wrongly about conservatives. The only Americans we want to see excluded are the America hating libs whom we would love to see voluntarily live out their continued threats to move elsewhere if So-And-So Republican is elected.
I've always been curious---just where do white men, gun enthusiasts and Christians sit in the democratic tent ?
America has never been purely capitalistic. We have always had government influence in the economy. Do you support capitalism? True capitalism would require you to allow drug trafficking, sex industry, abortion clinics etc. to operate in your neighborhood. Are you thinking maybe a little government intervention might make for a better neighborhood?
I support the right of every neighborhood to decide for themselves. Guns in West Texas? O.K. - Guns in central DC? Maybe not such a good idea...
According to the Constitution, my 'inalienable' rights are endowed by 'my creator', which is not necessarily the same as your 'God'. Either way they are only as valid as the government that guarantees them.
O.k., you're a conservative wing-nut. And I disagree with you. REAL Americans know that they're entitled to answer those questions, in agreement or opposition to you and me, in the privacy of their own hearts.
Do you oppose capitalism? Economic freedom is the truest form of freedom.
Do you support gun control? The right to bear arms against our gov't assures us all our other rights.
Do you acknowledge that your rights as a citizen as enumerated in the Constitution are God given and inalienable? (ie, gov't can't take your God given rights away, but is capable of preventing you from exercising them)
A REAL American would know how to answer those questions. Liberals don't. Call me a conservative wingnut if you wish. I also happen to be correct in this.
I've always been curious---just where do white men, gun enthusiasts and Christians sit in the democratic tent ?
We tried this once before with a swell guy named McCarthy. He thought you should be branded, based on your beliefs, pro or anti-American. It caused a witch hunt and divided this country.
America is about inclusiveness. Its about freedom of speech. Its about tolerance, and accepting others even if you disagree with them. Calling others anti-American because you don't agree with their views is fucking retarded.
Yeah, your a conservative wingnut. But despite the idiotic, moronic, contradictory, asinine point of view you share, liberals would still fight for you to have that ability to share that view. THAT is Americanism, a view you don't seem to share.
Actually, the communist Hollywood reaction to McCarthy caused a witchhunt that divided this country. McCarthy was a great American.
Also, I fully recognize that you have every right as an American to be anti-American. Also, as an American, I have every right to call you on it. Deal with it.
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Remember, if your state votes Democrat then your a treason making terrorist who is out to destroy America.
Thanks to the internet and the ability to make things go 'bye', it's much more dangerous than the days of McCarthy. I went looking for things I saw today, they are 'gone.'
First of all, I voted for Bush twice. Second of all, as I need remind you, I'm a centrist, not a liberal, not a conservative. Do I need to change my name to Centrist? Where are you, Shattered?
Lastly, there is a difference between criticizing Bush and thinking that he is wrong for America (and let's face it, he was) and calling people who don't support your candidate un-American or anti-American. This is no longer Jeffersonianism vs. Hamiltonism or Democrat vs. Republican where they're both good guys and you have to make the choice between two people who both have great ideas for the country. This is calling people who do not support Republicans un or anti-Americans. From Congresswoman Bachmann saying we need some 1950s era McCarthy-like investigation in Congress as to how is pro and who is anti-American, to this numbnut, to Sarah Palin addressing "pro-American" crowds. If these fucking morons will remember, an area of this country that they would consider un-American was viciously attacked 7 years ago and I lost a lot of friends on that day. The story was throughout the country that on that day, we were all New Yorkers. We are ALL Americans, Willow. Now I can sit here and I can have a debate with you over your philosophy of what is best for this country, but in the end we aren't going to change each other's minds and we'll both walk away hopefully learning something new about the other person's ideology. That's how political debate and political elections should be.
Listen, I understand the conservative argument. I understand the liberal argument. They're both great arguments and they both want what's best for this country. Liberals did not say "Those who support President Bush are anti-American" and throw all of his supporters under the bus. On 9/11, every single one of us joined together with President Bush and stood as one nation. I supported him when he sent 60,000 troops into Afghanistan and believe me, I didn't shed one tear when we invaded Iraq to capture Saddam. In 2004, the flip-flopper Kerry had no idea if he voted for or against the war, and his choice of a running-mate was God awfull. I thought it was too risky to change Presidents in a time of war. I was wrong. But voting either way or disagreeing with someone's philosophy over how this country should be run, does not make you less American. In fact, the very freedom that we so cherish to question our leaders and decide if he is or isn't right for this country, I think, makes you MORE American.
The Right is trying to pull out all the stops to scare Americans. I'm surprised they haven't connected Obama with Vladamir Lenin yet or they haven't said America is going to be absorbed into the new USSR. The right is using EVERY single way possible to scare us into voting for McCain... Obama's too risky, Obama's connected to Wright, to Ayres, to this guy, to that guy... he's a socialist, he's going to take away your money and give it to someone else... it's scary to look at some of the things the Republicans are pulling to make us vote for McCain and elections should not be decided upon fear. They should be decided upon who the American people think is best for this country and will lead this country in the right path. Anti-American... what bullshit.
Do liberals hate the extreme right wing part of America?