Concerning the abortion issue !

[C_Clayton_Jones]

While I would agree that including morning after pills in the rape response kit would do a lot to curtail abortions later, there are many pro lifers out there who view the morning after pill to be just as bad as an abortion.

Correct.

And those hostile to privacy rights would seek to criminalize morning after treatments as well.

 

[beagle9]

While I would agree that including morning after pills in the rape response kit would do a lot to curtail abortions later, there are many pro lifers out there who view the morning after pill to be just as bad as an abortion.

Correct.

And those hostile to privacy rights would seek to criminalize morning after treatments as well.

Wrong.... You using privacy rights as the issue is not correct. Killing babies in the womb is the issue.

 

[SweetSue92]

It should be that if a rape or incest case were to take place, then aborting a baby would not be nessesary, because no baby should have time to form when reported by the victim immediately after the act takes place against them.

The emergency room would then offer the victim the "morning after pill" as a way to ensure there is no pregnancy from such an evil act.

Simple stuff really.

If a baby forms in the womb, then the baby becomes a protected life who is of course with the same rights to live (as is granted by God, and his or her fellow human beings), just as any human life has that same right to live, therefore we all should be protecting a fellow human beings life in the womb, just as it is outside the womb under these heavens and stars in which we all live and thrive together in.

I agree with you--theoretically. In reality life is often messy, things happen, and women cannot or do not get to the ER in time.

If we know that a developing baby in the womb is a unique human being, and we decide that this person has rights (as some states already have via murder laws), then there's no question. You do not punish a rapist by killing the innocent child the rapist conceived.

That said--outlawing abortion except in rape or incest would be a step in the right direction. I can't morally uphold it, but at least it's something.

 

[jwoodie]

Rape and incest are two different issues. The former is a nonconsentual criminal act, whereas the latter is a biological prohibition which varies from state to state. No woman should be required to bear a child stemming from rape, but children resulting from incest are no different from others with possible genetic abnormalities.

 

[Dana7360]

Rape and incest are two different issues. The former is a nonconsentual criminal act, whereas the latter is a biological prohibition which varies from state to state. No woman should be required to bear a child stemming from rape, but children resulting from incest are no different from others with possible genetic abnormalities.

That's a bunch of garbage.

Most incest survivors are children. They can't consent to their family member raping them. Most are too young to know what it is and that they can get pregnant from it.

If you think a child has the capacity to give consent to their family member to rape them then you really need to get some help.

People like you make me sick.

 

[beagle9]

It should be that if a rape or incest case were to take place, then aborting a baby would not be nessesary, because no baby should have time to form when reported by the victim immediately after the act takes place against them.

The emergency room would then offer the victim the "morning after pill" as a way to ensure there is no pregnancy from such an evil act.

Simple stuff really.

If a baby forms in the womb, then the baby becomes a protected life who is of course with the same rights to live (as is granted by God, and his or her fellow human beings), just as any human life has that same right to live, therefore we all should be protecting a fellow human beings life in the womb, just as it is outside the womb under these heavens and stars in which we all live and thrive together in.

I agree with you--theoretically. In reality life is often messy, things happen, and women cannot or do not get to the ER in time.

If we know that a developing baby in the womb is a unique human being, and we decide that this person has rights (as some states already have via murder laws), then there's no question. You do not punish a rapist by killing the innocent child the rapist conceived.

That said--outlawing abortion except in rape or incest would be a step in the right direction. I can't morally uphold it, but at least it's something.

Hello sweetsue.... She doesn't get to the ER in time due to her choosing not too ??? I can agree that her mind probably isn't thinking correctly when something like that happens, but somewhere within the next 3 weeks max, the victim will have had time to decide if she wants to wait to see if anything developes or not, and if she waits to find out that she got pregnant, then she shouldn't get the abortion at this stage of the situation. Otherwise she should have taken the morning after pill as the preventive to stop the possibility of a pregnancy resulting in the situation after a rape or incest was committed against her or with her.

 

[georgephillip]

It should be that if a rape or incest case were to take place, then aborting a baby would not be nessesary, because no baby should have time to form when reported by the victim immediately after the act takes place against them.

The emergency room would then offer the victim the "morning after pill" as a way to ensure there is no pregnancy from such an evil act.

Simple stuff really.

If a baby forms in the womb, then the baby becomes a protected life who is of course with the same rights to live (as is granted by God, and his or her fellow human beings), just as any human life has that same right to live, therefore we all should be protecting a fellow human beings life in the womb, just as it is outside the womb under these heavens and stars in which we all live and thrive together in.

It should be that if a rape or incest case were to take place, then aborting a baby would not be nessesary, because no baby should have time to form when reported by the victim immediately after the act takes place against them.

The emergency room would then offer the victim the "morning after pill" as a way to ensure there is no pregnancy from such an evil act.

What happens when the victim is raped by a family member or other authority figure who prevents a timely trip to the emergency room? Is she required to give birth to her assailant's child?

 

[beagle9]

Rape and incest are two different issues. The former is a nonconsentual criminal act, whereas the latter is a biological prohibition which varies from state to state. No woman should be required to bear a child stemming from rape, but children resulting from incest are no different from others with possible genetic abnormalities.

That's a bunch of garbage.

Most incest survivors are children. They can't consent to their family member raping them. Most are too young to know what it is and that they can get pregnant from it.

If you think a child has the capacity to give consent to their family member to rape them then you really need to get some help.

People like you make me sick.

Way back in the olden days people actually married each other brother and sister in order to keep the bloodline in control of the wealth. A terrible thing to do, and in many cases the children ended up with mental problems and/or birth defects. Sadly I know of a family that was exactly in that way, and yep their children had problems as a result of such a thing. Not sure why they did such a thing (the bloodline was to be kept for the wealth to stay intact I guess), and they were a very wealthy family, but it wasn't good for them to had ever contemplated such a thing let alone to go through with it, and worse to have kids as a result of such a thing.

The other you speak of is of course highly illegal acts of evilness against children, so of course no one would be advocating that incest in that form or in any form is something good, right and/or morally right ever.

Incest is wrong always, but in the case spoken by me above, where the family was made up of a brother and sister being married, and their children that came afterwards, I ask was that illegal, and should it be illegal if it is not ?? I think it should be illegal.

 

[beagle9]

It should be that if a rape or incest case were to take place, then aborting a baby would not be nessesary, because no baby should have time to form when reported by the victim immediately after the act takes place against them.

The emergency room would then offer the victim the "morning after pill" as a way to ensure there is no pregnancy from such an evil act.

Simple stuff really.

If a baby forms in the womb, then the baby becomes a protected life who is of course with the same rights to live (as is granted by God, and his or her fellow human beings), just as any human life has that same right to live, therefore we all should be protecting a fellow human beings life in the womb, just as it is outside the womb under these heavens and stars in which we all live and thrive together in.

It should be that if a rape or incest case were to take place, then aborting a baby would not be nessesary, because no baby should have time to form when reported by the victim immediately after the act takes place against them.

The emergency room would then offer the victim the "morning after pill" as a way to ensure there is no pregnancy from such an evil act.

What happens when the victim is raped by a family member or other authority figure who prevents a timely trip to the emergency room? Is she required to give birth to her assailant's child?

Well in that case, it means that the family member may be using fear as a weapon against her in order to get her to conceal the crime. If the victim has been put into such a situation, and later breaks free of the bondage (except now with a baby in her womb), then because that baby is a human being No she should not be allowed to abort a human being nor should she want to at this point.

It's not the childs fault for what took place, and if the child is developing as a healthy baby or even with complications, then she should have the proper support she needs in order to carry the baby to term.

Afterwards she can make the choice either to keep the baby in which is part her also or to put the baby immediately up for adoption. Her choice, but to have the human life terminated is not, and should not be her choice, because it is a human being/life.

The relative of course is then imprisoned for everything that resulted from such a hurendous act of betrayal and evilness.

 

[beagle9]

Bottom line, is that we don't kill or murder human beings.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Women have been forced to give birth to the children of their rapists. Held as a prisoner Jaycee Dugard had three children by her rapist. Amanda Berry had a daughter by her rapist. These women were forced to raise the children. They looked into the faces of these children seeing their rapists every day. Liberals would certainly have encouraged these women to kill those children. Yet those kids are still alive today. They should have been executed as soon as the mothers were rescued. Yet they live. Why? What kind of hypocrisy forces this on a woman raped since she was a child herself? If it would be legal to kill the child of rape in the womb it should be just as legal to kill them today.

 

[Crepitus]

It should be that if a rape or incest case were to take place, then aborting a baby would not be nessesary, because no baby should have time to form when reported by the victim immediately after the act takes place against them.

The emergency room would then offer the victim the "morning after pill" as a way to ensure there is no pregnancy from such an evil act.

Simple stuff really.

If a baby forms in the womb, then the baby becomes a protected life who is of course with the same rights to live (as is granted by God, and his or her fellow human beings), just as any human life has that same right to live, therefore we all should be protecting a fellow human beings life in the womb, just as it is outside the womb under these heavens and stars in which we all live and thrive together in.

Have you ever been raped, and then learned 6 weeks later (when there is a heart beat) that the morning after pill is too late. Have you considered the morning after pill is opposed by many social conservatives who claim its use is in fact an abortion, and to provide this solution would be an affront to God?

How would you react if you learned you were pregnant, or a loved one was raped and learned six weeks later that you/she was impregnated by a rapist, and you or she have to raise and pay for this ill-conceived child for at least 18 years?

Many women who have been raped don't disclose the crime.

Abortion doesn't cure rape, it' just protects the rapist.
True story.

 

[Votto]

It should be that if a rape or incest case were to take place, then aborting a baby would not be nessesary, because no baby should have time to form when reported by the victim immediately after the act takes place against them.

The emergency room would then offer the victim the "morning after pill" as a way to ensure there is no pregnancy from such an evil act.

Simple stuff really.

If a baby forms in the womb, then the baby becomes a protected life who is of course with the same rights to live (as is granted by God, and his or her fellow human beings), just as any human life has that same right to live, therefore we all should be protecting a fellow human beings life in the womb, just as it is outside the womb under these heavens and stars in which we all live and thrive together in.

Have you ever been raped, and then learned 6 weeks later (when there is a heart beat) that the morning after pill is too late. Have you considered the morning after pill is opposed by many social conservatives who claim its use is in fact an abortion, and to provide this solution would be an affront to God?

How would you react if you learned you were pregnant, or a loved one was raped and learned six weeks later that you/she was impregnated by a rapist, and you or she have to raise and pay for this ill-conceived child for at least 18 years?

Many women who have been raped don't disclose the crime.

Abortion doesn't cure rape, it' just protects the rapist.
True story.

Yep, little 14 year old Suzy can be driven to Planned Parenthood by her uncle a 100 times over again.

No one is the wiser

 

[georgephillip]

It should be that if a rape or incest case were to take place, then aborting a baby would not be nessesary, because no baby should have time to form when reported by the victim immediately after the act takes place against them.

The emergency room would then offer the victim the "morning after pill" as a way to ensure there is no pregnancy from such an evil act.

Simple stuff really.

If a baby forms in the womb, then the baby becomes a protected life who is of course with the same rights to live (as is granted by God, and his or her fellow human beings), just as any human life has that same right to live, therefore we all should be protecting a fellow human beings life in the womb, just as it is outside the womb under these heavens and stars in which we all live and thrive together in.

It should be that if a rape or incest case were to take place, then aborting a baby would not be nessesary, because no baby should have time to form when reported by the victim immediately after the act takes place against them.

The emergency room would then offer the victim the "morning after pill" as a way to ensure there is no pregnancy from such an evil act.

What happens when the victim is raped by a family member or other authority figure who prevents a timely trip to the emergency room? Is she required to give birth to her assailant's child?

Well in that case, it means that the family member may be using fear as a weapon against her in order to get her to conceal the crime. If the victim has been put into such a situation, and later breaks free of the bondage (except now with a baby in her womb), then because that baby is a human being No she should not be allowed to abort a human being nor should she want to at this point.

It's not the childs fault for what took place, and if the child is developing as a healthy baby or even with complications, then she should have the proper support she needs in order to carry the baby to term.

Afterwards she can make the choice either to keep the baby in which is part her also or to put the baby immediately up for adoption. Her choice, but to have the human life terminated is not, and should not be her choice, because it is a human being/life.

The relative of course is then imprisoned for everything that resulted from such a hurendous act of betrayal and evilness.

Afterwards she can make the choice either to keep the baby in which is part her also or to put the baby immediately up for adoption. Her choice, but to have the human life terminated is not, and should not be her choice, because it is a human being/life.

When do you believe "life" begins in the human reproductive cycle?

https://www.researchgate.net/figure...W-Embryology-Human-Development_fig2_310573511

 

[beagle9]

It should be that if a rape or incest case were to take place, then aborting a baby would not be nessesary, because no baby should have time to form when reported by the victim immediately after the act takes place against them.

The emergency room would then offer the victim the "morning after pill" as a way to ensure there is no pregnancy from such an evil act.

Simple stuff really.

If a baby forms in the womb, then the baby becomes a protected life who is of course with the same rights to live (as is granted by God, and his or her fellow human beings), just as any human life has that same right to live, therefore we all should be protecting a fellow human beings life in the womb, just as it is outside the womb under these heavens and stars in which we all live and thrive together in.

It should be that if a rape or incest case were to take place, then aborting a baby would not be nessesary, because no baby should have time to form when reported by the victim immediately after the act takes place against them.

The emergency room would then offer the victim the "morning after pill" as a way to ensure there is no pregnancy from such an evil act.

What happens when the victim is raped by a family member or other authority figure who prevents a timely trip to the emergency room? Is she required to give birth to her assailant's child?

Well in that case, it means that the family member may be using fear as a weapon against her in order to get her to conceal the crime. If the victim has been put into such a situation, and later breaks free of the bondage (except now with a baby in her womb), then because that baby is a human being No she should not be allowed to abort a human being nor should she want to at this point.

It's not the childs fault for what took place, and if the child is developing as a healthy baby or even with complications, then she should have the proper support she needs in order to carry the baby to term.

Afterwards she can make the choice either to keep the baby in which is part her also or to put the baby immediately up for adoption. Her choice, but to have the human life terminated is not, and should not be her choice, because it is a human being/life.

The relative of course is then imprisoned for everything that resulted from such a hurendous act of betrayal and evilness.

Afterwards she can make the choice either to keep the baby in which is part her also or to put the baby immediately up for adoption. Her choice, but to have the human life terminated is not, and should not be her choice, because it is a human being/life.

When do you believe "life" begins in the human reproductive cycle?

https://www.researchgate.net/figure...W-Embryology-Human-Development_fig2_310573511

With my limited knowledge I'm not sure, however we all know that it's not a life yet (even though a potential for the fertilization of an egg), if it winds up at the bottom of a rubber/profilactic after sex, where as it can't then fertilize the egg if weren't allowed to enter that area.

Once the egg is fertilized though, and the process begins, shouldn't their still have to be a valid reason in order to abort the process ?? Hmmm, now what those reasons should be, uhh is really according to what the good Lord up above guides us in our knowledge to then come to an agreement upon or to learn, and to understand in his ways concerning such things, and to agree on what suits all that are involved in a moral and righteous way.

 

[koshergrl]

It should be that if a rape or incest case were to take place, then aborting a baby would not be nessesary, because no baby should have time to form when reported by the victim immediately after the act takes place against them.

The emergency room would then offer the victim the "morning after pill" as a way to ensure there is no pregnancy from such an evil act.

Simple stuff really.

If a baby forms in the womb, then the baby becomes a protected life who is of course with the same rights to live (as is granted by God, and his or her fellow human beings), just as any human life has that same right to live, therefore we all should be protecting a fellow human beings life in the womb, just as it is outside the womb under these heavens and stars in which we all live and thrive together in.

Have you ever been raped, and then learned 6 weeks later (when there is a heart beat) that the morning after pill is too late. Have you considered the morning after pill is opposed by many social conservatives who claim its use is in fact an abortion, and to provide this solution would be an affront to God?

How would you react if you learned you were pregnant, or a loved one was raped and learned six weeks later that you/she was impregnated by a rapist, and you or she have to raise and pay for this ill-conceived child for at least 18 years?

Many women who have been raped don't disclose the crime.

Abortion doesn't cure rape, it' just protects the rapist.
True story.

Abortion still doesn't cure rape, no matter how much you laugh about it.

Wait that's not quite right..abortion doesn't cure rape for women. It does cure rape for the rapist. Especially if the victim is family.

 

[koshergrl]

It should be that if a rape or incest case were to take place, then aborting a baby would not be nessesary, because no baby should have time to form when reported by the victim immediately after the act takes place against them.

The emergency room would then offer the victim the "morning after pill" as a way to ensure there is no pregnancy from such an evil act.

Simple stuff really.

If a baby forms in the womb, then the baby becomes a protected life who is of course with the same rights to live (as is granted by God, and his or her fellow human beings), just as any human life has that same right to live, therefore we all should be protecting a fellow human beings life in the womb, just as it is outside the womb under these heavens and stars in which we all live and thrive together in.

Have you ever been raped, and then learned 6 weeks later (when there is a heart beat) that the morning after pill is too late. Have you considered the morning after pill is opposed by many social conservatives who claim its use is in fact an abortion, and to provide this solution would be an affront to God?

How would you react if you learned you were pregnant, or a loved one was raped and learned six weeks later that you/she was impregnated by a rapist, and you or she have to raise and pay for this ill-conceived child for at least 18 years?

Many women who have been raped don't disclose the crime.

Abortion doesn't cure rape, it' just protects the rapist.
True story.

Yep, little 14 year old Suzy can be driven to Planned Parenthood by her uncle a 100 times over again.

No one is the wiser

Exactly.
And Planned Parenthood will work with uncle to create a lie so they don't have to report. Planned Parenthood ghouls will also restrain women (girls), lie to them (about gestational age) and alter the *treatment* without consulting with the woman, for the express purpose of getting more money from the parts of the fetus that they sell.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

Personal responsibility would go long way in reducing abortions.

As for rape? The morning after pill is an option but in regards to incest not so much.

 

[Moonglow]

It should be that if a rape or incest case were to take place, then aborting a baby would not be nessesary, because no baby should have time to form when reported by the victim immediately after the act takes place against them.

The emergency room would then offer the victim the "morning after pill" as a way to ensure there is no pregnancy from such an evil act.

Simple stuff really.

If a baby forms in the womb, then the baby becomes a protected life who is of course with the same rights to live (as is granted by God, and his or her fellow human beings), just as any human life has that same right to live, therefore we all should be protecting a fellow human beings life in the womb, just as it is outside the womb under these heavens and stars in which we all live and thrive together in.

You live in a nation that killed people to take their land yet you worry about the unborn..

 

[SassyIrishLass]

It should be that if a rape or incest case were to take place, then aborting a baby would not be nessesary, because no baby should have time to form when reported by the victim immediately after the act takes place against them.

The emergency room would then offer the victim the "morning after pill" as a way to ensure there is no pregnancy from such an evil act.

Simple stuff really.

If a baby forms in the womb, then the baby becomes a protected life who is of course with the same rights to live (as is granted by God, and his or her fellow human beings), just as any human life has that same right to live, therefore we all should be protecting a fellow human beings life in the womb, just as it is outside the womb under these heavens and stars in which we all live and thrive together in.

You live in a nation that killed people to take their land yet you worry about the unborn..

Talk about apples and oranges