CrusaderFrank
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unions' influence has slipped considerably in the last 50 years. how 'bout the next 50? i think it would be silly to assume that this century would mimic the last.It will never happen. Unions will not allow the politicians for whom they have bought and paid to create programs to hire people at reasonable, market based wages. The public which is footing the bill will not support a massive spending program to pay low-skilled workers higher pay (the union level) than they earn in the private sector.
The highest unemployment rates are for those with a high school level or less level of education. The value of that labor is not high in this economy - but the government won't acknowledge that fact.
this is the extent of your understanding of how government works in an economy?Government doesn't provide Capital - it seizes income and wealth from some taxpayers in order to pay off other taxpayers.
Labor needs capital, and capital needs labor.
It is a symbiotic relationship., the one thing they have in common is each wants what the other has.
Adding ideology into the mix, and that is exactly what the echo chamber does, prevents pragmatic solution to the inherent strife of this relationship. It does not help when really stupid people - see CrusdaerFrank for a prime example - post nonsense.
Labor needs capital, and capital needs labor.
It is a symbiotic relationship., the one thing they have in common is each wants what the other has.
Adding ideology into the mix, and that is exactly what the echo chamber does, prevents pragmatic solution to the inherent strife of this relationship. It does not help when really stupid people - see CrusdaerFrank for a prime example - post nonsense.
You were educated by Marxists, accordingly you have a flawed and very fucked up view of American Free Enterprise and Capitalism.
The only "Strife" between "Labor" and "Capital" is in your flawed "Thinking" and there's no way to argue you out of it either.
When you think and talk in terms of "Labor" and "Capital" it means you've been successfully brain washed into Marxist Thought.
Enjoy it.
Labor needs capital, and capital needs labor.
It is a symbiotic relationship., the one thing they have in common is each wants what the other has.
Adding ideology into the mix, and that is exactly what the echo chamber does, prevents pragmatic solution to the inherent strife of this relationship. It does not help when really stupid people - see CrusdaerFrank for a prime example - post nonsense.
You were educated by Marxists, accordingly you have a flawed and very fucked up view of American Free Enterprise and Capitalism.
The only "Strife" between "Labor" and "Capital" is in your flawed "Thinking" and there's no way to argue you out of it either.
When you think and talk in terms of "Labor" and "Capital" it means you've been successfully brain washed into Marxist Thought.
Enjoy it.
Frank, you are perfect storm: Partisan, Ignorant and Stupid.
Wry, are you even aware that classifying groups into "Labor" and "Capital" is quintessential Marxism?
Wry, are you even aware that classifying groups into "Labor" and "Capital" is quintessential Marxism?
No, I'm not "aware"; please educate me (this could be very interesting)
for the avoidance of doubt, frank, classical economics proposed capital and labor (and land) as distinct factors of production in advance of marx.
I'd rather this not evolve into the typical showdown between ideologies as much as a practical look at the evolution of American policy.
for the avoidance of doubt, frank, classical economics proposed capital and labor (and land) as distinct factors of production in advance of marx.
Marxism is the fundamental misunderstanding of an economy being a "Struggle" or "Strife" between Kapital and Labour .