Colorblind racism

[francoHFW]

There is nothing quite like watching a person take their first baby steps in breaking from the mental prison of liberalism.

It's kind of like taking off your wife's burqa and allowing her to step outside for the first time.

When did this ever actually happen? I've never seen it LOL. I believe you're deluded as usual...

 

[xotoxi]

There is nothing quite like watching a person take their first baby steps in breaking from the mental prison of liberalism.

It's kind of like taking off your wife's burqa and allowing her to step outside for the first time.

When did this ever actually happen? I've never seen it LOL. I believe you're deluded as usual...

The only time when the wife's head emerges from her burqa is when it is separated from her neck.

 

[The T]

There is nothing quite like watching a person take their first baby steps in breaking from the mental prison of liberalism.

It's kind of like taking off your wife's burqa and allowing her to step outside for the first time.

When did this ever actually happen? I've never seen it LOL. I believe you're deluded as usual...

In this discussion? YOU are the deluded one.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

I haven't read the book, but it seems to define "colorblind racism" as that subset of racism that doesn't explicitly invoke race. Are the people in this thread who seem to dislike the book suggesting that such a thing ("colorblind racism") doesn't exist, or is there some more subtle point to which you object?

I object to being called stupid because I tend to a more conservative ideology. I object to being called racist because my conservative beliefs make me stupid.

Low IQ & Conservative Beliefs Linked to Prejudice - Yahoo! News

I also object to the idea that whites who avoid racial language are racist, which is the original premise of colorblind racism.

In this paper I argue that color blind racism, the central racial ideology of the post-civil rights era, has a peculiar style characterized by slipperiness, apparent nonracialism, and
ambivalence. This style Žts quite well the normative climate of the country as well as the central frames of color blind racism. I document in the paper Ž ve stylistic components of this ideology, namely, (1) whites’ avoidance of direct racial language, (2) the
central rhetorical strategies or “semantic moves” used by whites to safely express their racial views, (3) the role of projection, (4) the role of diminutives, and (5) how incursions into forbidden issues produce almost total incoherence among many whites. I
conclude the paper with a discussion on how this style enhances the ideological menace of color blind racism

http://www.nd.edu/~rmcveigh/reap/Bonilla_linguistics.pdf

If you actually read that paper you will, if you are honest, come to the inevitable conclusion that most of the liberals you know are the racists, because they are the ones that strive to use language and semantics to talk about others without using terms that could be considered racist. Newt, on the other hand, has weird beliefs, but no one who actually knows him thinks he is actually a racist. He went out of his way to convince Reagan he was wrong to not address the NAACP after they invited him. Newt supports the NAACP's goals of reforming the criminal justice system from punishment to rehabilitation, something Obama does not do. Why is Newt the racist, and Obama the hero? Could it be because of the color of their skins?

Newt Gingrich Supports ‘Misplaced Priorities,’ NAACP Criminal Justice Reform Principles | NAACP

I resent that racists are using my politics to make me look like a racist.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

Who is truly "colorblind"? I hear some conservatives state that they "don't see color", yet the people they support certainly do "see color" (see the comments by gingrich and santorum). Right now, you have gingrich and Romney pandering to Hispanics in Florida, but nooo they don't practice "identity politics" and "they don't pander to different racial or ethnic groups". It's a CROCK OF SHIT.

What's wrong with "seeing color or different ethnic groups"? Why does someone have to "tolerate" another person of a different, race, color, or creed?

I hear some liberals say the same thing, yet the people they support certainly see it. You want to talk about pandering, take a look at this.

Wasserman Schultz: "Natural Home" For Minorities Is Democratic Party | RealClearPolitics

 

[The T]

Who is truly "colorblind"? I hear some conservatives state that they "don't see color", yet the people they support certainly do "see color" (see the comments by gingrich and santorum). Right now, you have gingrich and Romney pandering to Hispanics in Florida, but nooo they don't practice "identity politics" and "they don't pander to different racial or ethnic groups". It's a CROCK OF SHIT.

What's wrong with "seeing color or different ethnic groups"? Why does someone have to "tolerate" another person of a different, race, color, or creed?

I hear some liberals say the same thing, yet the people they support certainly see it. You want to talk about pandering, take a look at this.

Wasserman Schultz: "Natural Home" For Minorities Is Democratic Party | RealClearPolitics

Insert 'PLANTATION' for HOME...

 

[percysunshine]

Racism is when one thinks a race is inferior and discriminates against them.

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[whitehall]

Wake me up when Al-Jazeera gets to the part about the 72 virgins.

 

[francoHFW]

"Stupid term anyway"- ANOTHER liberal idea only dittoheads have ever heard of...Saul Alinsky comes to mind...

 

[ladyliberal]

I object to being called stupid because I tend to a more conservative ideology. I object to being called racist because my conservative beliefs make me stupid.

Conservative beliefs imply neither racism nor stupidity. To say otherwise is certainly objectionable. However, the popular article you reference and the scientific article it describes note that there are plenty of smart conservatives and neither claims that conservative beliefs contribute to stupidity (they claim that it is the other way around).

I also object to the idea that whites who avoid racial language are racist, which is the original premise of colorblind racism.
If you actually read that paper you will, if you are honest, come to the inevitable conclusion that most of the liberals you know are the racists, because they are the ones that strive to use language and semantics to talk about others without using terms that could be considered racist.

I've skimmed the paper, and I don't find it very informative. Evidently, most people don't, since it has been cited fairly rarely. I don't believe that most of the liberals I know are racists (unless one says that anyone who is at all racist is a "racist"). Academic studies suggest that political conservativism is positively correlated with racism, although both terms are of course subject to differing interpretations:

http://scholar.harvard.edu/bobo/files/racism.pdf

Newt, on the other hand, has weird beliefs, but no one who actually knows him thinks he is actually a racist. He went out of his way to convince Reagan he was wrong to not address the NAACP after they invited him. Newt supports the NAACP's goals of reforming the criminal justice system from punishment to rehabilitation, something Obama does not do. Why is Newt the racist, and Obama the hero? Could it be because of the color of their skins?

That none of the people Gingrich associates with have publicly called him racist surprises me not in the least. Is there a political figure in the US whose close associates call him or her racist? While I find Gingrich's views on prison reform laudable, his rhetoric as a whole seems to display a deliberate lack of respect for the African American community.

 

[whitehall]

"Colorblind racism" is actually an accurate term to describe the democrat party agenda of the last forty years. LBJ's "plantation society" aka "great society" program spent billions to keep Black voters on the democrat party plantation. As a result of democrat party policies the Black family was virtually destroyed when the federal government became the main provider through a series of poverty pimps who would make sure nobody strayed off the plantation. For a half century Blacks were told that they could not achieve without special treatment by the federal government and they could never accomplish great things because the deck was always stacked against them. When Justice Thomas and Dr. Condie Rice dared to escape from the plantation, the left ridiculed them with cruel racist "jokes". It's not "colorblind racism" it's systemic left wing democrat party racism that keeps smart Black people thinking that they can never get ahead.

 

[The T]

"Colorblind racism" is actually an accurate term to describe the democrat party agenda of the last forty years. LBJ's "plantation society" aka "great society" program spent billions to keep Black voters on the democrat party plantation. As a result of democrat party policies the Black family was virtually destroyed when the federal government became the main provider through a series of poverty pimps who would make sure nobody strayed off the plantation. For a half century Blacks were told that they could not achieve without special treatment by the federal government and they could never accomplish great things because the deck was always stacked against them. When Justice Thomas and Dr. Condie Rice dared to escape from the plantation, the left ridiculed them with cruel racist "jokes". It's not "colorblind racism" it's systemic left wing democrat party racism that keeps smart Black people thinking that they can never get ahead.

The only deck stacked against ANY group is thier stupidity in listening to Government, and thier ignorence to thier own liberty.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

Conservative beliefs imply neither racism nor stupidity. To say otherwise is certainly objectionable. However, the popular article you reference and the scientific article it describes note that there are plenty of smart conservatives and neither claims that conservative beliefs contribute to stupidity (they claim that it is the other way around).

One of the more reasonable liberals on the board is still condescending. That says a lot more about liberals than it does conservatives.

I've skimmed the paper, and I don't find it very informative. Evidently, most people don't, since it has been cited fairly rarely. I don't believe that most of the liberals I know are racists (unless one says that anyone who is at all racist is a "racist"). Academic studies suggest that political conservativism is positively correlated with racism, although both terms are of course subject to differing interpretations:

http://scholar.harvard.edu/bobo/files/racism.pdf

Given that I never said most liberals were racist I will agree with you, I just pointed out that, if we actually accept the premise that people who deliberately avoid terms that might be racist tend to be hiding their racism, that is more likely to describe liberals than conservatives. Conservatives tend to be much less PC than liberals.

I love it when a paper starts with a conclusion and then finds evidence that supports it, thanks for the stunning example you found.

That none of the people Gingrich associates with have publicly called him racist surprises me not in the least. Is there a political figure in the US whose close associates call him or her racist? While I find Gingrich's views on prison reform laudable, his rhetoric as a whole seems to display a deliberate lack of respect for the African American community.

Of course you do, despite the fact that what they really show is contempt for people who think the government is the best answer to problems black people face.