College says 9/11 memorial posters offensive to Muslim students

I would say you are assuming that the fact they are conservative makes a difference in how they are treated based on some sort of percieved victimhood.

The poster of of the police killings? Was that posted on a college campus?

I'm not surprised. You seem more sensitized to insults towards conservatives than towards liberals.

We all make assumptions about motives . You say you you take their poster at face value (no questioning of motives) but you don't seem to take the poster of police killings of blacks at face value. Why the discrepency?

You say it's a silly inference. Perhaps you would better understand it if you view as you view it as you would have me view hostile attitudes towards conservatives - that is, view it in the current hostile to Muslims environment which does not make distinctions between terrorists and Muslims.

If Brown jumped the gun why has there been no retraction, no correction of his claims? It's been some time now...plenty of time to correct the record.

Are you being deliberately deceptive? Surely you realize that CNN's site represents only a fraction (as it states "most notable" terror attacks). There have certainly more than 3 in 40 years. Your second link goes back to this thread so I'm not sure what you are referring to.

For example: Which Ideology Has Inspired The Most Murders In Terrorist Attacks On U.S. Soil?

Given that...do you think American Muslims on a campus might be justified to feel concerned about how people might react over such a poster? Perhaps that they might have the same feelings of persecution that the conservative group putting forth the poster would have?

 

I have no problem with having a conversation. The poster is not banned - although the YAF has yet to correct it's claims. Part of the conversation is MY view, and my right to express it. You do realize that don't you? I don't know about YOUR tribe - but if it's part of the tribes refusing to admit a reasonable number of refugees wanting to come here, that have beenvery well vetted, or worse - those who have aided us in our misboggoten wars (which I never supported) - and are unable to get the promised visas and protections they were promised...then I'm not too impressed with any tribes.

I'm not the only one that discourages having conversations. Here's some of another tribe's responses to Islamic Extremists...this is THEIR conversation and THEIR way of memorializing 911 I guess.

Assaults against Muslims in U.S. surpass 2001 level

 

It's a matter of separating "the Bias Review Board" from the Adminstration decisions. Certainly there WAS a threat to ban the poster as result of the Bias Review Board findings. The YAF piece was written prior to a decision by the University to support free speech. Which IS the correct decision. But in their statement, the College hierarchy themselves made several false and uninformed assertions. Such as -- ISIS has nothing to do with 9-11, which is historically and patently false.

What's STILL missing -- is whether the posters WERE ALLOWED to go up. I could not find a single statement to that effect.

So Alex Jones and social media blew this WAAAY out of proportion. Normal for most everything nowadays.

You're conflating a social media flare-up with the general sucky nature of US immigration policy. My tribe's position is that we could ALL BE more liberal on immigration if our govt actually functioned with any resemblence to competence and accountability. But it does not.

It's possible to vet those that HELPED us in Iraq and Afghanistan if the govt was reliable in it's process. But you're talking about a government that renewed Mohammed Attah's VISA just prior to 9-11 and then ISSUED IT post mortum. But it's NOT possible to thoroughly vet REFUGEES from conflict areas. Because the LAW considers them REFUGEES and not IMMIGRANTS. They are not making the decision to become Americans. They are making a move to stay alive. And with no reliable functioning government or diplomacy in their host countries, no amount of "assurance" about vetting can be trusted.

The fix is to treat refugees as refugees. Different from claims of political asylum or requests for legal immigration. And shelter them until the time that the conflict is resolved. Most have no PREFERENCE to be British or Greek or American. They just want to survive.

 

I'm doing that. I'm writing articles for submission, helping the Libertarians, solving the world problems one paragraph right after the other. Could do an article about the insanity of repeating the same mistakes in Middle East over and over and over again while "my tribe" got the message about trying to "fix" Middle East right about 25 years ago..

On USMB -- my stuff would get just a lot of tl:dr ratings from the regulars.