Coal, If Hillary is elected what will it cost the average consumer?

[owebo]

Source: U.S. Energy Information Administration, Electric Power Monthly

Electric generating facilities expect to add more than 26 gigawatts (GW) of utility-scale generating capacity to the power grid during 2016. Most of these additions come from three resources: solar (9.5 GW), natural gas (8.0 GW), and wind (6.8 GW), which together make up 93% of total additions. If actual additions ultimately reflect these plans, 2016 will be the first year in which utility-scale solar additions exceed additions from any other single energy source.

Solar, natural gas, wind make up most 2016 generation additions - Today in Energy - U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA)

No coal fired plants coming online.

We expand existing cola plant capacity you stupid liberal fuck....Why? Because you fascist Nazi fucks won't approve new plant construction......

In May 2012, the New York Times reported that “Coal and electric utilities, long allied, are starting to split. More than 100 of the 500 or so U.S. coal-burning power plants are expected to be shut down in the next few years. While coal still provides about a third of the nation’s power, just four years ago it was providing nearly half.” According to the U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA) there was a nationwide decrease of 22.8% in net electricity generation from coal between April 2011 and April 2012. The reasons given in the press for the decline of U.S. coal consumption include new pollution rules, fuel switching, and environmental pressure.



The unstated, yet requisite, driver of this trend is the dramatically declining demand for energy in the Building Sector due to slower growth in the U.S. building stock and increases in building energy efficiency.


Just Released: U.S. Annual Energy Outlook (AEO) 2012


The Annual Energy Outlook 2012 (AEO 2012), prepared by the EIA, presents long-term projections of energy demand based on results from EIA’s National Energy Modeling System. AEO 2012 concludes “The rate of growth in energy use slows over the projection period, reflecting moderate population growth, an extended economic recovery, and increasing energy efficiency in end-use applications.” Visualizing AEO Building Sector data in a graphic format clearly illustrates the key drivers of the recent trend in U.S. energy infrastructure planning.

U.S. Coal Consumption in Decline | Architecture 2030

As the wind, gas, and solar continue to decline in price, more and more coal plants are being shut down. By 2030, don't think many will be left. A definate plus for the health of the nation.

Do you even have a GED?

No, I have a high school diploma, and about 120 credits toward a degree in Geology. And 50 years experiance as an industrial Millwright. Now, did you ever finish the 3rd grade? Is so, why are you not posting links to back up you point of view?

I skipped a few grades because I was so smart....

Finish your degree in geology, it's worth every minute you spend on it....

I have two degrees and a minor in geology....I love coal....

 

[rightwinger]

Coal is an obsolete energy source

It is being killed by natural gas and low cost oil......Hillary had nothing to do with it, she is just stating the obvious

Look at the chart & compare it to your ridiculous statement. Then try again.

Looked at the chart. So what would that chart have looked at 20 years ago? What is going to look like 20 years from now? Barring the advent of fusion, coal will be one of the minor sources. Too damned expensive and polluting.

No matter how you resent it, the future does arrive. And the future does not include a major role for coal.

Coal is doomed

It is dirty and not cost effective compared to other fuels

 

[Skull Pilot]

Coal is an obsolete energy source

It is being killed by natural gas and low cost oil......Hillary had nothing to do with it, she is just stating the obvious

Look at the chart & compare it to your ridiculous statement. Then try again.

You're denying that the costs of natural gas and oil are down?

Whoa.

over 70% of our electricity according to the chart posted is produced by coal

If it really was obsolete wouldn't that number be ZERO?

 

[Skull Pilot]

Coal is an obsolete energy source

It is being killed by natural gas and low cost oil......Hillary had nothing to do with it, she is just stating the obvious

Look at the chart & compare it to your ridiculous statement. Then try again.

Looked at the chart. So what would that chart have looked at 20 years ago? What is going to look like 20 years from now? Barring the advent of fusion, coal will be one of the minor sources. Too damned expensive and polluting.

No matter how you resent it, the future does arrive. And the future does not include a major role for coal.

Coal is doomed

It is dirty and not cost effective compared to other fuels

If that were true then the amount of electricity produced by coal would be far less than what it is today

 

[rightwinger]

Coal is an obsolete energy source

It is being killed by natural gas and low cost oil......Hillary had nothing to do with it, she is just stating the obvious

Agreed, Mr. Rightwinger. A question the real right wingers should ask themselves: If coal is so wonderful, why are coal mining towns so very poor? An industry that has been around for over 250 years and yet they keep their workers ignorant and in abject poverty, not to mention carelessly endangering their lives. Disgusting.

You are a good lemming.

Coal Mining Industry Salary, Average Salaries | PayScale

Drilling down past the managerial and professional listings you refer to was this for miners: Miner Salary
As low as $13/hour to work in one of the most dangerous jobs in America.

You couldn't get me down in a coal mine for $13 an hour

 

[rightwinger]

Coal is an obsolete energy source

It is being killed by natural gas and low cost oil......Hillary had nothing to do with it, she is just stating the obvious

Look at the chart & compare it to your ridiculous statement. Then try again.

Looked at the chart. So what would that chart have looked at 20 years ago? What is going to look like 20 years from now? Barring the advent of fusion, coal will be one of the minor sources. Too damned expensive and polluting.

No matter how you resent it, the future does arrive. And the future does not include a major role for coal.

Coal is doomed

It is dirty and not cost effective compared to other fuels

If that were true then the amount of electricity produced by coal would be far less than what it is today

Give it time

Hillary is only acknowledging the inevitable. Republicans lie and promise to save a doomed industry

 

[IsaacNewton]

Coal is an obsolete energy source

It is being killed by natural gas and low cost oil......Hillary had nothing to do with it, she is just stating the obvious

Look at the chart & compare it to your ridiculous statement. Then try again.

Looked at the chart. So what would that chart have looked at 20 years ago? What is going to look like 20 years from now? Barring the advent of fusion, coal will be one of the minor sources. Too damned expensive and polluting.

No matter how you resent it, the future does arrive. And the future does not include a major role for coal.

Coal is doomed

It is dirty and not cost effective compared to other fuels

If that were true then the amount of electricity produced by coal would be far less than what it is today

Give it time

Hillary is only acknowledging the inevitable. Republicans lie and promise to save a doomed industry

Next trump will promise to revive the incandescent light bulb industry. "Make America a soft glow again".

 

[Skull Pilot]

Coal is an obsolete energy source

It is being killed by natural gas and low cost oil......Hillary had nothing to do with it, she is just stating the obvious

Look at the chart & compare it to your ridiculous statement. Then try again.

Looked at the chart. So what would that chart have looked at 20 years ago? What is going to look like 20 years from now? Barring the advent of fusion, coal will be one of the minor sources. Too damned expensive and polluting.

No matter how you resent it, the future does arrive. And the future does not include a major role for coal.

Coal is doomed

It is dirty and not cost effective compared to other fuels

If that were true then the amount of electricity produced by coal would be far less than what it is today

Give it time

Hillary is only acknowledging the inevitable. Republicans lie and promise to save a doomed industry

Saying it is obsolete and that it will be obsolete in time are two very different things

And really all industries are doomed just ask the last button hook magnate

 

[Skull Pilot]

Look at the chart & compare it to your ridiculous statement. Then try again.

Looked at the chart. So what would that chart have looked at 20 years ago? What is going to look like 20 years from now? Barring the advent of fusion, coal will be one of the minor sources. Too damned expensive and polluting.

No matter how you resent it, the future does arrive. And the future does not include a major role for coal.

Coal is doomed

It is dirty and not cost effective compared to other fuels

If that were true then the amount of electricity produced by coal would be far less than what it is today

Give it time

Hillary is only acknowledging the inevitable. Republicans lie and promise to save a doomed industry

Next trump will promise to revive the incandescent light bulb industry. "Make America a soft glow again".

I'll take an incandescent light over one of those CFLs any day

 

[rightwinger]

Look at the chart & compare it to your ridiculous statement. Then try again.

Looked at the chart. So what would that chart have looked at 20 years ago? What is going to look like 20 years from now? Barring the advent of fusion, coal will be one of the minor sources. Too damned expensive and polluting.

No matter how you resent it, the future does arrive. And the future does not include a major role for coal.

Coal is doomed

It is dirty and not cost effective compared to other fuels

If that were true then the amount of electricity produced by coal would be far less than what it is today

Give it time

Hillary is only acknowledging the inevitable. Republicans lie and promise to save a doomed industry

Next trump will promise to revive the incandescent light bulb industry. "Make America a soft glow again".

Trump will bring back the VCR to make America Great again

 

[rightwinger]

Look at the chart & compare it to your ridiculous statement. Then try again.

Looked at the chart. So what would that chart have looked at 20 years ago? What is going to look like 20 years from now? Barring the advent of fusion, coal will be one of the minor sources. Too damned expensive and polluting.

No matter how you resent it, the future does arrive. And the future does not include a major role for coal.

Coal is doomed

It is dirty and not cost effective compared to other fuels

If that were true then the amount of electricity produced by coal would be far less than what it is today

Give it time

Hillary is only acknowledging the inevitable. Republicans lie and promise to save a doomed industry

Saying it is obsolete and that it will be obsolete in time are two very different things

And really all industries are doomed just ask the last button hook magnate

Hillary is going into coal country and offering training and new industry to replace the mines

Trump is promising to save the mines




X

 

[Old Rocks]

Source: U.S. Energy Information Administration, Electric Power Monthly

Electric generating facilities expect to add more than 26 gigawatts (GW) of utility-scale generating capacity to the power grid during 2016. Most of these additions come from three resources: solar (9.5 GW), natural gas (8.0 GW), and wind (6.8 GW), which together make up 93% of total additions. If actual additions ultimately reflect these plans, 2016 will be the first year in which utility-scale solar additions exceed additions from any other single energy source.

Solar, natural gas, wind make up most 2016 generation additions - Today in Energy - U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA)

No coal fired plants coming online.

We expand existing cola plant capacity you stupid liberal fuck....Why? Because you fascist Nazi fucks won't approve new plant construction......

In May 2012, the New York Times reported that “Coal and electric utilities, long allied, are starting to split. More than 100 of the 500 or so U.S. coal-burning power plants are expected to be shut down in the next few years. While coal still provides about a third of the nation’s power, just four years ago it was providing nearly half.” According to the U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA) there was a nationwide decrease of 22.8% in net electricity generation from coal between April 2011 and April 2012. The reasons given in the press for the decline of U.S. coal consumption include new pollution rules, fuel switching, and environmental pressure.



The unstated, yet requisite, driver of this trend is the dramatically declining demand for energy in the Building Sector due to slower growth in the U.S. building stock and increases in building energy efficiency.


Just Released: U.S. Annual Energy Outlook (AEO) 2012


The Annual Energy Outlook 2012 (AEO 2012), prepared by the EIA, presents long-term projections of energy demand based on results from EIA’s National Energy Modeling System. AEO 2012 concludes “The rate of growth in energy use slows over the projection period, reflecting moderate population growth, an extended economic recovery, and increasing energy efficiency in end-use applications.” Visualizing AEO Building Sector data in a graphic format clearly illustrates the key drivers of the recent trend in U.S. energy infrastructure planning.

U.S. Coal Consumption in Decline | Architecture 2030

As the wind, gas, and solar continue to decline in price, more and more coal plants are being shut down. By 2030, don't think many will be left. A definate plus for the health of the nation.

Do you even have a GED?

No, I have a high school diploma, and about 120 credits toward a degree in Geology. And 50 years experiance as an industrial Millwright. Now, did you ever finish the 3rd grade? Is so, why are you not posting links to back up you point of view?

I skipped a few grades because I was so smart....

Finish your degree in geology, it's worth every minute you spend on it....

I have two degrees and a minor in geology....I love coal....

As a rock, coal is neat. Organics converted into a pretty much single element rock. Burning it is not neat. Too many extraneous elements, mercury, lead, arsenic, and uranium end up in the atmosphere. And the fact that burning it creates the primary GHG is the clincher for the need to eliminate it as a power source.

And that is happening due to economics. Coal today is about where the horse was in 1918. Sure, we will see coal fired plants for another 40 years, but less of them each year.

 

[Old Rocks]

Looked at the chart. So what would that chart have looked at 20 years ago? What is going to look like 20 years from now? Barring the advent of fusion, coal will be one of the minor sources. Too damned expensive and polluting.

No matter how you resent it, the future does arrive. And the future does not include a major role for coal.

Coal is doomed

It is dirty and not cost effective compared to other fuels

If that were true then the amount of electricity produced by coal would be far less than what it is today

Give it time

Hillary is only acknowledging the inevitable. Republicans lie and promise to save a doomed industry

Saying it is obsolete and that it will be obsolete in time are two very different things

And really all industries are doomed just ask the last button hook magnate

Hillary is going into coal country and offering training and new industry to replace the mines

Trump is promising to save the mines

And that is what should be happening. People have to face the fact that the primary cost of job loss in the US is automation. Just being willing to work is no longer enough, you have to know something. At a time when many are finding it is hard to get a job, there are 5.8 million jobs going begging. Even though I am 72, I could quit my job as a millwright, and have another job next week. Millwrights, electricians, and automation people are in demand. Those serious about getting a job, should get training in one of these crafts. Not glamarous, but the pay runs from $20 to $45 an hr. The people in the coal industry have to start looking to the future, for future will arrive, no matter what they wish.

 

[IsaacNewton]

Looked at the chart. So what would that chart have looked at 20 years ago? What is going to look like 20 years from now? Barring the advent of fusion, coal will be one of the minor sources. Too damned expensive and polluting.

No matter how you resent it, the future does arrive. And the future does not include a major role for coal.

Coal is doomed

It is dirty and not cost effective compared to other fuels

If that were true then the amount of electricity produced by coal would be far less than what it is today

Give it time

Hillary is only acknowledging the inevitable. Republicans lie and promise to save a doomed industry

Next trump will promise to revive the incandescent light bulb industry. "Make America a soft glow again".

Trump will bring back the VCR to make America Great again

Make America Rewind Again.

 

[rightwinger]

Coal is doomed

It is dirty and not cost effective compared to other fuels

If that were true then the amount of electricity produced by coal would be far less than what it is today

Give it time

Hillary is only acknowledging the inevitable. Republicans lie and promise to save a doomed industry

Next trump will promise to revive the incandescent light bulb industry. "Make America a soft glow again".

Trump will bring back the VCR to make America Great again

Make America Rewind Again.

More jobs were lost when video stores shut down than coal mines

Trump needs to promise to bring back those jobs

 

[Skull Pilot]

Looked at the chart. So what would that chart have looked at 20 years ago? What is going to look like 20 years from now? Barring the advent of fusion, coal will be one of the minor sources. Too damned expensive and polluting.

No matter how you resent it, the future does arrive. And the future does not include a major role for coal.

Coal is doomed

It is dirty and not cost effective compared to other fuels

If that were true then the amount of electricity produced by coal would be far less than what it is today

Give it time

Hillary is only acknowledging the inevitable. Republicans lie and promise to save a doomed industry

Saying it is obsolete and that it will be obsolete in time are two very different things

And really all industries are doomed just ask the last button hook magnate

Hillary is going into coal country and offering training and new industry to replace the mines

Trump is promising to save the mines




X

You mean just like she said she was going to bring jobs 200,000 to upstate NY?

How did that work out?

As senator, Clinton promised 200,000 jobs in Upstate New York. Her efforts fell flat.

Coal will not be replaced for power generation until we have a source that can replace it.

We have that source and it's not wind, solar, hydro, oil or gas it is nuclear

But there is no way Hillary will say that so coal isn't going away any time soon

 

[IsaacNewton]

Trump could bring back all the manufacturing in the US.

8-track tapes
Rotary phones
Cabbage Patch dolls
The Bicentennial Minute
Phone Booths
The Horseless Carriage with a rumble seat
Steamboats
The Pony Express
Velcro tennis shoes
MTV (that plays MUSIC)
The Valley Girl
The Silver Dollar and the Kennedy 50 cent piece
Bobby Sox
The Fonz
Copy ink so when everyone in class gets passed a test the first thing they do is smell the ink

trump trump trump stump

 

[rightwinger]

Coal is doomed

It is dirty and not cost effective compared to other fuels

If that were true then the amount of electricity produced by coal would be far less than what it is today

Give it time

Hillary is only acknowledging the inevitable. Republicans lie and promise to save a doomed industry

Saying it is obsolete and that it will be obsolete in time are two very different things

And really all industries are doomed just ask the last button hook magnate

Hillary is going into coal country and offering training and new industry to replace the mines

Trump is promising to save the mines




X

You mean just like she said she was going to bring jobs 200,000 to upstate NY?

How did that work out?

As senator, Clinton promised 200,000 jobs in Upstate New York. Her efforts fell flat.

Coal will not be replaced for power generation until we have a source that can replace it.

We have that source and it's not wind, solar, hydro, oil or gas it is nuclear

But there is no way Hillary will say that so coal isn't going away any time soon

I haven't seen anyone ban coal...only acknowledge it is on its way out

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

Trump could bring back all the manufacturing in the US.

8-track tapes
Rotary phones
Cabbage Patch dolls
The Bicentennial Minute
Phone Booths
The Horseless Carriage with a rumble seat
Steamboats
The Pony Express
Velcro tennis shoes
MTV (that plays MUSIC)
The Valley Girl
The Silver Dollar and the Kennedy 50 cent piece
Bobby Sox
The Fonz
Copy ink so when everyone in class gets passed a test the first thing they do is smell the ink

trump trump trump stump

What is the point in posting such juvenile dribble? Are you just trying to ensure no one ever respects your opinion? Posts such as that nonsense you just posted is why I use the ignore feature. Why bother reading your shit?

 

[IsaacNewton]

Trump could bring back all the manufacturing in the US.

8-track tapes
Rotary phones
Cabbage Patch dolls
The Bicentennial Minute
Phone Booths
The Horseless Carriage with a rumble seat
Steamboats
The Pony Express
Velcro tennis shoes
MTV (that plays MUSIC)
The Valley Girl
The Silver Dollar and the Kennedy 50 cent piece
Bobby Sox
The Fonz
Copy ink so when everyone in class gets passed a test the first thing they do is smell the ink

trump trump trump stump

What is the point in posting such juvenile dribble? Are you just trying to ensure no one ever respects your opinion? Posts such as that nonsense you just posted is why I use the ignore feature. Why bother reading your shit?

You don't like humor, no problem.

Why so serious? Let's put a smile on that face.