Climate Scientists are Laughing at You

These are the facts the followers of this religion will not hear




Why are they holding a meeting in a "carbon polluted" room?? :2up: If CO2 is a pollutant because it's a GHouse gas, than certainly so also is water vapor.. Where's the Water Vapor Tax in the Green Old Deal???

:coffee:

I think the guy musta farted to get that reading, but the points still stand..
 
I love the smell of the Heartland Institute in the morning, it smells like....cherry picking.
 
Pretty heavy hitters in the climate science world, all right.

Anyway:
Jay H. Lehr

Credentials
  • Ph.D., Ground Water Hydrology. University of Arizona (1962). [1]
  • Degree in Geological Engineering from Princeton University. [1]
Background
Jay H. Lehr is a Senior Fellow and “Science Director” of the Heartland Institute. He is also a “motivational speaker” and prolific writer. He was editor of “Rational Readings of Environmental Concerns,” which labels environmentalists as “extremists” and “alarmists” among other things. He has testified before Congress numerous times on environmental issues.
Jay H. Lehr

Richard A. Keen

Credentials

  • Ph.D., Geography/Climatology, University of Colorado. [1]
Background
Richard A. Keen is instructor emeritus at the University of Colorado Department of Atmospheric and Oceanic Sciences (ATOC). Some sources have also described him as a “climatologist,” and others as a “meteorologist.”

According to Keen, he has experience as a meteorologist in the army and has “done some climate modeling when I was younger and less wise.” He does not mention receiving any training as a climatologist.
Richard Keen

Stanley B. Goldenberg

Credentials
  • M.S. Synoptic Meteorology, Florida State University (1980).
  • B.S. Meteorology, Florida State University, (1978).
  • A.A., Miami-Dade Community College (1972).
Background
Stanley B. Goldenberg is a Meteorologist with the Hurricane Research Division/AOML/NOAA located in Miami, Florida. He is one of the lead authors of NOAA's Seasonal Hurricane Outlooks for the Atlantic basin.

Goldenberg received his M.S. in Meteorology under the guidance of fellow climate change skeptic Jim O'Brien.

Stanley Goldenberg has been associated with the Heartland Institute as an expert and a regular speaker at the Heartland Institute's International Conference on Climate Change.

Goldenberg is known for his views on arctic sea ice. While Goldenberg has conceded that “it is possible that a small fraction of the increase in hurricane activity might be associated with the gradual, long-term SST increase,” he is also on the record for claiming there is raw data showing an increase in Arctic sea ice depth and an expansion of its coverage. [9], [10]

Tom Harris


Credentials
  • B. Eng. , M. Eng. (Mech., thermofluids and energy sciences). [1]
Background
Tom Harris is the Executive Director of the International Climate Science Coalition (ICSC), a group of climate change skeptics that has received funding from the Heartland Institute. Before starting work with ICSC, Harris was the Executive Director of the now-defunct Natural Resources Stewardship Project (NRSP). [2], [3]

Prior to working with the NRSP, Harris was a Former Director of Operations at the Canadian PR and lobbying firm called the High Park Group (HPG). Previously, Harris was an Associate with APCO Worldwide, a group known for creating The Advancement of Sound Science Coalition (TASSC) which worked to advance tobacco industry interests. [4], [48]

According to Harris's archived profile at APCO Worldwide, “Specifically, he has worked with oil and gas, coal, nuclear, environmental and aerospace clients for whom he has conducted effective media and public relations campaigns.” His profile also highlights how he has “worked with private companies and trade associations to successfully position these entities and their interests with media and before various government committees and regulatory bodies.” [68]

The Heartland Institute describes Harris as “perhaps the most frequently cited and interviewed critic of exaggeration and alarmism in the global warming debate, appearing thousands of times on online news forums and being regularly published in newspapers in Canada and the U.S. and occasionally in Australia, New Zealand, the U.K., and other countries.” [5]
 
These are the facts the followers of this religion will not hear
No way. We heard them, the response is 'So what?' A bunch of cherry picked out of context irrelevancies, exactly deniers' speed. Woo hoo.
 
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These are the facts the followers of this religion will not hear




Why are they holding a meeting in a "carbon polluted" room?? :2up: If CO2 is a pollutant because it's a GHouse gas, than certainly so also is water vapor.. Where's the Water Vapor Tax in the Green Old Deal???

:coffee:

I think the guy musta farted to get that reading, but the points still stand..

:dunno:
 
What did they state? They stated that the Earth was warmer during periods long before the existence of human civilization. CNM was correct to characterize their comments as completely irrelevant.

As has been stated here on numerous occasions, the problem is not the absolute temperatures or the absolute CO2 levels we are attaining; it is the RATE at which we are attaining them. CO2 has not risen as rapidly as it is doing at present since the Chicxulub Impact, 66 million years ago, when half the planet was on fire. Nothing in the geological record shows temperature changes taking place anywhere near the present rate. Obviously, the chronological resolution of the record hampers the comparison. But the current warm pulse will last, at minimum, a thousand years. You can go back a very long ways before a thousand year pulse would become invisible in the record.

Then, of course, there is the sixth great extinction, underway now. It seems possible that we may all be starving to death well before the rising seas wash us away.
 
If you're Spencer link was supposed to provide evidence for your claim in the post before, I failed to locate it. A point out perhaps?
 
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These are the facts the followers of this religion will not hear




Why are they holding a meeting in a "carbon polluted" room?? :2up: If CO2 is a pollutant because it's a GHouse gas, than certainly so also is water vapor.. Where's the Water Vapor Tax in the Green Old Deal???

:coffee:

I think the guy musta farted to get that reading, but the points still stand..

:dunno:


If you actually watch the video, the last person to speak is holding up a CO2 meter.. Maybe you should start using the links...
 
What did they state? They stated that the Earth was warmer during periods long before the existence of human civilization. CNM was correct to characterize their comments as completely irrelevant.

As has been stated here on numerous occasions, the problem is not the absolute temperatures or the absolute CO2 levels we are attaining; it is the RATE at which we are attaining them. CO2 has not risen as rapidly as it is doing at present since the Chicxulub Impact, 66 million years ago, when half the planet was on fire. Nothing in the geological record shows temperature changes taking place anywhere near the present rate. Obviously, the chronological resolution of the record hampers the comparison. But the current warm pulse will last, at minimum, a thousand years. You can go back a very long ways before a thousand year pulse would become invisible in the record.

Then, of course, there is the sixth great extinction, underway now. It seems possible that we may all be starving to death well before the rising seas wash us away.
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I Call Bull Shit....
 

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