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I think we've all laughed at it, haven't we?It has been SIX days since thread started not a single cogent answer to the video has been posted, when are you guys going to post one?
What date is 'the present' to which 10,000 years is compared?Do you have any argument or is logical fallacy all you have?
The date to which you consider it refers.Which part of "present" do you not understand?
The date to which you consider it refers.Which part of "present" do you not understand?
I love the smell of the Heartland Institute in the morning, it smells like....cherry picking.
Gee, all you did was complain about alleged cherry picking in the video, you actually destroyed your own reply since their "cherry picking" video is better than your fact less, evidence free reply.
It has been SIX days since thread started not a single cogent answer to the video has been posted, when are you guys going to post one?
Water Vapor is in the same class of gases you rabid religious freaks have labeled as "pollutants"..
That's fucking hysterical...
I love the smell of the Heartland Institute in the morning, it smells like....cherry picking.
No, that's also really stupid, being how nobody of intelligence has said CO2 or water vapor were toxic in atmospheric concentrations.
Because "cherry picking" is a default Warmer Cult excuseCrusader Frank demonstrates his acumen again. Ffs, you ineducable loon, how would I know they're cherry picking if I didn't watch?^ didnt watch the video, parroting Cult Talking Points
Didn't say "toxic" -- I said a POLLUTANT -- per the phony ass govt EPA ruling.. Major disharmony in scientific definitions when you declare CO2 a pollutant and not Dihydrous Monoxide..
Science? When I hear that word I picture lab work. Can you show us the effect increasing CO2 from 280 to 400ppm has on temperature?Didn't say "toxic" -- I said a POLLUTANT -- per the phony ass govt EPA ruling.. Major disharmony in scientific definitions when you declare CO2 a pollutant and not Dihydrous Monoxide..
No, that's totally wrong.
I'd try to explain it to you, but it involves science and common sense, hence it's over your head. Like I said, we understand your stupid claims, and why they're so stupid, but you can't understand it.
Didn't say "toxic" -- I said a POLLUTANT -- per the phony ass govt EPA ruling.. Major disharmony in scientific definitions when you declare CO2 a pollutant and not Dihydrous Monoxide..
No, that's totally wrong.
I'd try to explain it to you, but it involves science and common sense, hence it's over your head. Like I said, we understand your stupid claims, and why they're so stupid, but you can't understand it.
POLLUTANT: any substance, as certain chemicals or waste products, that renders the air, soil, water, or other natural resource harmful or unsuitable for a specific purpose.
CO2 is an element of the normal mixture of air and supports plant life on this planet. Rapidly elevating levels of CO2 lead to rapid greenhouse warming which is harmful to life on this planet. Excess CO2 is a pollutant.
www.ipcc.ch. The Physical Science Basis - the 1800 pages of empirical, peer reviewed evidence that AGW is real and a threat. But that won't stop you from lying and from making your idiot, insane claims. That would be because you are a
LYING FUCKING TROLL
www.ipcc.ch. The Physical Science Basis - the 1800 pages of empirical, peer reviewed evidence that AGW is real and a threat. But that won't stop you from lying and from making your idiot, insane claims. That would be because you are a
LYING FUCKING TROLL
Pretty heavy hitters in the climate science world, all right.
Anyway:
Jay H. Lehr
Credentials
Background
- Ph.D., Ground Water Hydrology. University of Arizona (1962). [1]
- Degree in Geological Engineering from Princeton University. [1]
Jay H. Lehr is a Senior Fellow and “Science Director” of the Heartland Institute. He is also a “motivational speaker” and prolific writer. He was editor of “Rational Readings of Environmental Concerns,” which labels environmentalists as “extremists” and “alarmists” among other things. He has testified before Congress numerous times on environmental issues.
Jay H. Lehr
Richard A. Keen
Credentials
Background
- Ph.D., Geography/Climatology, University of Colorado. [1]
Richard A. Keen is instructor emeritus at the University of Colorado Department of Atmospheric and Oceanic Sciences (ATOC). Some sources have also described him as a “climatologist,” and others as a “meteorologist.”
According to Keen, he has experience as a meteorologist in the army and has “done some climate modeling when I was younger and less wise.” He does not mention receiving any training as a climatologist.
Richard Keen
Stanley B. Goldenberg
Credentials
Background
- M.S. Synoptic Meteorology, Florida State University (1980).
- B.S. Meteorology, Florida State University, (1978).
- A.A., Miami-Dade Community College (1972).
Stanley B. Goldenberg is a Meteorologist with the Hurricane Research Division/AOML/NOAA located in Miami, Florida. He is one of the lead authors of NOAA's Seasonal Hurricane Outlooks for the Atlantic basin.
Goldenberg received his M.S. in Meteorology under the guidance of fellow climate change skeptic Jim O'Brien.
Stanley Goldenberg has been associated with the Heartland Institute as an expert and a regular speaker at the Heartland Institute's International Conference on Climate Change.
Goldenberg is known for his views on arctic sea ice. While Goldenberg has conceded that “it is possible that a small fraction of the increase in hurricane activity might be associated with the gradual, long-term SST increase,” he is also on the record for claiming there is raw data showing an increase in Arctic sea ice depth and an expansion of its coverage. [9], [10]
Tom Harris
Credentials
Background
- B. Eng. , M. Eng. (Mech., thermofluids and energy sciences). [1]
Tom Harris is the Executive Director of the International Climate Science Coalition (ICSC), a group of climate change skeptics that has received funding from the Heartland Institute. Before starting work with ICSC, Harris was the Executive Director of the now-defunct Natural Resources Stewardship Project (NRSP). [2], [3]
Prior to working with the NRSP, Harris was a Former Director of Operations at the Canadian PR and lobbying firm called the High Park Group (HPG). Previously, Harris was an Associate with APCO Worldwide, a group known for creating The Advancement of Sound Science Coalition (TASSC) which worked to advance tobacco industry interests. [4], [48]
According to Harris's archived profile at APCO Worldwide, “Specifically, he has worked with oil and gas, coal, nuclear, environmental and aerospace clients for whom he has conducted effective media and public relations campaigns.” His profile also highlights how he has “worked with private companies and trade associations to successfully position these entities and their interests with media and before various government committees and regulatory bodies.” [68]
The Heartland Institute describes Harris as “perhaps the most frequently cited and interviewed critic of exaggeration and alarmism in the global warming debate, appearing thousands of times on online news forums and being regularly published in newspapers in Canada and the U.S. and occasionally in Australia, New Zealand, the U.K., and other countries.” [5]
