Climate Change?

Discussion in 'Environment' started by Wry Catcher, May 23, 2011.

  1. Wry Catcher
    Offline

    Wry Catcher Platinum Member

    Joined:
    Aug 3, 2009
    Messages:
    31,815
    Thanks Received:
    4,252
    Trophy Points:
    1,160
    Location:
    San Francisco Bay Area
    Ratings:
    +8,188
    I don't know. I suspect the residents of Joplin, MO; Tuscaloosa, AL and the states which border the Mississippi River and its tributaries might be beginning to question the conventional wisdom (i.e. propaganda) of the right wing spin machine.
     
    • Thank You! Thank You! x 1
  2. Old Rocks
    Online

    Old Rocks Diamond Member

    Joined:
    Oct 31, 2008
    Messages:
    46,621
    Thanks Received:
    5,429
    Trophy Points:
    1,840
    Location:
    Portland, Ore.
    Ratings:
    +10,414
    Even on a worldwide scale, the climatic events of the last twelve months are within scope of a cluster of stronger than normal events caused by the strong La Nina. Barely.

    By 2025, if we continue to see more of these types of events, we may be able to look back and say this was the beginning of the change. For sure, we know that the Arctic is already undergoing major changes. As are the alpine areas of the world. We are creating a very interesting future for our descendents. I doubt they will appreciate it.
     
  3. Trakar
    Offline

    Trakar VIP Member

    Joined:
    Feb 28, 2011
    Messages:
    1,699
    Thanks Received:
    73
    Trophy Points:
    83
    Ratings:
    +73
    I don't know, it's been a long time since a consistent majority of citizens actually voted in their own best interests,...hopefully, you are correct. There are some signs which seem to indicate that extreme weather events can help some people understand the importance of remedial action, but its generally short lived and fades in extended periods of normalty. The following report on floods and California's water supply talks about "Flood Memory half-life,"

    Managing California’s Water: From Conflict to Reconciliation - Managing California’s Water: From Conflict to Reconciliation (PPIC Publication)

    More directly to the point however, "The dragons of inaction: Psychological barriers that limit climate change mitigation and adaptation" I'm afraid I've only got a link to abstract but if you've got access to a good public library or a local university library, it is worth the effort to read (of course you could buy it, but I subscribe to so many journals, I have a real hang-up about paying so much for individual papers!) - http://psycnet.apa.org/journals/amp/66/4/290/

     
  4. Quantum Windbag
    Offline

    Quantum Windbag Gold Member

    Joined:
    May 9, 2010
    Messages:
    58,308
    Thanks Received:
    5,014
    Trophy Points:
    245
    Ratings:
    +5,221
    Why? There have been larger floods in the past, and the problem with this particular flood is directly attributable to man's efforts to turn the Mississippi from a river that changed its course every year to a little stream that went where it was supposed to. Only a massive stretch of the imagination could make global warming responsible for the levees that were built by the Army corps of Engineers. I find it hard to believe that even an AGW cultist would try to argue that one.
     
    Last edited: May 24, 2011
  5. Zander
    Offline

    Zander Platinum Member

    Joined:
    Sep 10, 2009
    Messages:
    17,452
    Thanks Received:
    6,575
    Trophy Points:
    390
    Location:
    Los Angeles CA
    Ratings:
    +12,894
    Globull Warmists need to sell their cars, recycle their HVAC units, give up their cell phones, stop using electricity, and move into caves. Walk the walk motherfuckers!
     
    • Thank You! Thank You! x 2
  6. Trakar
    Offline

    Trakar VIP Member

    Joined:
    Feb 28, 2011
    Messages:
    1,699
    Thanks Received:
    73
    Trophy Points:
    83
    Ratings:
    +73
    I generate more energy than I consume and do so through renewable and sustainable (non-CO2 emitting) sources, I would prefer to simply have more people follow a similar path. But I agree with you that life would be much more simple if people that seem to hate technology and the advancements and economic benefits of modern scientific understanding would simply "walk the walk" of their rejectionist luddite talk, the rest of us could go about building the future. As Frank Rowland (president of the AAAS back in the early 90s and a Nobel laureate atmospheric chemist honored for his work on the discovery of stratospheric chlorofluorocarbons' role in ozone depletion), is quoted as saying; "...What’s the use of having developed a science well enough to make predictions, if in the end, all we’re willing to do is stand around and wait for them to come true?..."
     
  7. skookerasbil
    Online

    skookerasbil Gold Member

    Joined:
    Aug 6, 2009
    Messages:
    24,275
    Thanks Received:
    2,922
    Trophy Points:
    290
    Location:
    Not the middle of nowhere
    Ratings:
    +6,267


    Yup..........just like the world was supposed to end Saturday!!!

    You have to hand it to whoever came up with the ideas to facilitate the building of the religion of the Global Warming Alarmists. Fcukkers were true genius's!!!!

    Somebody was sitting around one day sipping a beer and thought to themselves, "Hey..........weather anomoloies happen all the time and are 100% unpredictable. We'll tie this to a natural warming trend, blame it on humans and create a green industry and profit our asses off!!! And we'll have hordes of OCD losers to assist us with our 'cause'!!!! It'll be the greatest public bamboozle job of the century..........and foolproof due to the nature............of nature!!! Best of all........nobody ever checks the facts of history related to freak weather events!!! Throw in the 24 hour news cycle and we'll have the masses shitting in their pants":rock::rock::rock::rock::rock::D


    [​IMG]
     
    Last edited: May 24, 2011
  8. daveman
    Offline

    daveman Diamond Member

    Joined:
    Jun 25, 2010
    Messages:
    51,299
    Thanks Received:
    5,693
    Trophy Points:
    1,775
    Location:
    On the way to the Dark Tower.
    Ratings:
    +5,759
    Remember, folks, when the weather's bad, it's evidence of Global Climate Change. When the weather is pleasant, it's just weather and has nothing to do with the climate.
     
  9. Oddball
    Offline

    Oddball BANNED Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jan 3, 2009
    Messages:
    41,428
    Thanks Received:
    8,397
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Location:
    Drinking wine, eating cheese, catching rays
    Ratings:
    +8,409
    • Thank You! Thank You! x 1
    Last edited by a moderator: Aug 18, 2014
  10. Wry Catcher
    Offline

    Wry Catcher Platinum Member

    Joined:
    Aug 3, 2009
    Messages:
    31,815
    Thanks Received:
    4,252
    Trophy Points:
    1,160
    Location:
    San Francisco Bay Area
    Ratings:
    +8,188
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    "I don't know. I suspect the residents of Joplin, MO; Tuscaloosa, AL and the states which border the Mississippi River and its tributaries might be beginning to question the conventional wisdom (i.e. propaganda) of the right wing spin machine."

    Notice several members of the echo chamber all chime in with their usual cocksure opinions, one even called those who listen to professional scientists "motherfuckers" and another that the debate on climate change is a vast left wing conspiracy.

    I'll bet my chips on that the vast number of scientists around the world who suggest human behavior has been a contributor to the change in sea temperature, which impacts global weather.
     

Share This Page