Climate change plaintiffs losing huge in the courts!

[skookerasbil]

More AGW k00k losing......

The writing is on the seawall

Soooo....climate change activists bringing suits against energy companies continue to crash and burn in the courts. The courts continue to rule that it is the duty of Congress to oversee energy company "colussion".. Oh....and hows that going s0ns?

@www.whosnotwinning.com

Oh and by the way....the article does not go into what these frivilous lawsuits are costing state governments. Lost cases must be paid for by guess who? The idiot taxpayers. Again
....costs never matter to the modern progressive meatheads!!

 

[skookerasbil]

Hmmm....well figured this thread would go over like a lead balloon with climate crusaders.

 

[Wyatt earp]

Your link is blocked.



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[skookerasbil]

Working for me

 

[Billy_Bob]

Not going to open up adds on my computer...

But the number of Climate crusaders that are failing and now having to pay damages when their cases are dismissed is stunning...

 

[Billy_Bob]

Working for me

Add blocker will not allow the site to open. they are trying to install an adware... Quote a relevant portion for me.

 

[Old Rocks]

Key Events:

Aug. 12, 2015: Our Children's Trust youth plaintiffs file lawsuit asserting the federal government is failing to protect them from climate change.

Nov. 12, 2015: American Petroleum Institute (API) and other pro-fossil fuel groups seek to intervene in Children's Trust case.

Nov. 17, 2015: Federal government requests dismissal of the case.

Jan. 14, 2016: Federal judge gives standing to API and other pro-fossil fuel groups to intervene in the case.

Nov. 10, 2016: Federal court in Oregon denies a government request to dismiss the lawsuit.

June 28, 2017: API and two other pro-fossil fuel groups are allowed to withdraw as interveners.

Nov. 16, 2017: Federal appeals court agrees to hear arguments on whether the case against the government can go to trial.

March 7, 2018: Federal appeals court rejects government's pleas to haltChildren's Trust case.

April 12, 2018: Federal magistrate judge sets a new trial date: Oct. 29, 2018, in federal district court in Eugene, Oregon.

July 11, 2018: Nobel economist Joseph Stiglitz writes an expert court report supporting the children's case.

July 20, 2018: Federal appeals court again rejects a government request to halt the lawsuit.

July 30, 2018: U.S. Supreme Court rejects government request for emergency stay.

Fossil Fuels on Trial: Where the Major Climate Change Lawsuits Stand Today

Maybe one part of the lawsuit dismissed.

 

[Old Rocks]

In California, where the lawsuits seek billions of dollars to pay for mitigation measures, such as sea walls to protect coastal property, the oil and gas companies responded by seeking to move the cases to federal courts, where nuisance claims are less likely to succeed. That jurisdictional battle rages on. Two California cases that were moved to federal court were dismissed by a judge who said the dangers of climate change are "very real" but that the issue should be handled by Congress.

Key Events:

July 17, 2017: San Mateo County, Marin County and Imperial Beach file separate lawsuits in California Superior Court seeking damages from 37 fossil fuel companies over sea level rise.

Sept. 19, 2017: San Francisco and Oakland file lawsuits in California Superior Court seeking damages from five fossil fuel companies over sea level rise.

Dec. 20, 2017: Santa Cruz and Santa Cruz County file lawsuits in California Superior Court against 29 fossil fuel companies, seeking compensation for climate change-related damage.

Jan. 8, 2018: Exxon asks a Texas court to grant a discovery order allowing the company to question officials in counties and cities suing.

Jan. 9, 2018: New York City files suit in federal court against five fossil fuel companies over climate change-related costs.

Jan. 22, 2018: City of Richmond files lawsuit in California Superior Court against 29 fossil fuel companies.

March 16, 2018: Federal judge rules some of the cases should be tried in state court, creating a conflict with another judge who ruled similar cases belong in federal court.

March 21, 2018: Federal judge overseeing the San Francisco and Oakland cases hosts a climate change tutorial for the court. Chevron took the lead during the session. BP, Shell and ConocoPhillips filed statements agreeing with Chevron's comments; Exxon said its viewed differed.

April 17, 2018: In Colorado, the city of Boulder, Boulder County and San Miguel County file a lawsuit in District Court seeking to hold Exxon and Suncor accountable for costs related to climate change.

April 30, 2018: Five of the cities and counties file a response with the Securities and Exchange Commission after Exxon supporters called for the SEC to investigate them over their bond disclosures.

May 9, 2018: King County, Washington, files a lawsuit in King County Superior Court against BP, Chevron, ConocoPhilips, Exxon and Royal Dutch Shell over infrastruture, health and environment costs related to climate change. King County is home to Seattle.

June 11, 2018: In Colorado, Boulder and San Miguel counties and the City of Boulder add a claim of "civil conspiracy," alleging Exxon and Suncor Energy worked together to promote the use of fossil fuels while dismissing the consequences of climate change.

June 25, 2018: Federal judge dismisses the San Francisco and Oakland cases, saying the dangers of climate change are "very real" but that the issue should be solved by Congress.

July 2, 2018: The state of Rhode Island sues fossil fuel companies in state court over the effects of climate change.

July 19, 2018: A federal judge dismisses New York City's lawsuit, saying climate change should be dealt with by Congress and the president, not the courts.

July 20, 2018: Baltimore sues 26 fossil fuel companies in states court in Maryland.

Fossil Fuels on Trial: Where the Major Climate Change Lawsuits Stand Today

But then, there are many lawsuits out there right now.

 

[Old Rocks]

Updated Aug. 14 with a judge dismissing one of the state-level children's climate lawsuits, in Washington.

Since then, Exxon has been waging a relentless fight though state and federal courts to impede the continuing investigations by New York and Massachusetts. It sued Massachusetts Attorney General Maura Healey and then-Attorney General of New York Eric Schneiderman in federal court to block the investigations, but the judge rejected Exxon's claims that the investigations are politically motivated. Legal battles also spilled into the courts of both states; all the way up to the supreme courts of New York and Massachusetts.

Key Events:

Nov. 4, 2015: New York Attorney General Eric Schneiderman issues first Exxon subpoena.

Feb. 29, 2016: Schneiderman announces formation of AGs United for Clean Power coalition.

April 4, 2016: Virgin Islands Attorney General Claude Walker issues subpoena to Exxon and the Competitive Enterprise Institute in a climate change investigation.

April 13, 2016: Exxon sues to block enforcement of Virgin Islands subpoena.

April 19, 2016: Massachusetts Attorney General Maura Healey serves Exxon with civil investigative demand (similar to a subpoena).

June 15, 2016: Exxon goes to federal court in Texas to block Healey's civil investigative demand.

June 16, 2016: Exxon goes to state court in Massachusetts to block Healey's civil investigative demand.

June 29, 2016: Virgin Islands withdraws Exxon subpoena and Exxon agrees to dismiss its related lawsuit.

Oct. 13, 2016: Texas federal judge orders Massachusetts' attorney general to submit to deposition by Exxon.

Oct. 17, 2016: Exxon seeks injunction in Texas federal court to block New York attorney general's investigation.

Nov. 7, 2016: Exxon challenges ruling that an accountant-client privilegein Texas law does not apply in New York and that its auditor, PricewaterhouseCooper, must turn over documents.

Nov. 17, 2016: Texas judge orders Massachusetts Attorney General Healey to appear in Texas for deposition.

Dec. 12, 2016: Judge issues order cancelling deposition of Healey.

Jan. 11, 2017: Massachusetts state court rules Exxon must comply with attorney general's civil investigative demand seeking climate change information.

March 29, 2017: Texas federal judge transfers Exxon's lawsuit to New York federal court.

May 19, 2017: Investigators disclose former Exxon CEO Rex Tillerson used a secret alias email under the name "Wayne Tracker."

June 2, 2017: New York's attorney general calls Exxon's climate accounting a "sham" under Tillerson.

Sept. 12, 2017: New York highest court denies Exxon's request to keep PricewaterhouseCoopers accounting records secret.

Jan. 12, 2018: Exxon seeks to amend its federal case against Healey and Schneiderman.

March 29, 2018: Federal judge rejects Exxon's attempt to derail Healey's and Schneiderman's investigations. Exxon a few weeks later files its intention to appeal the ruling.

April 13, 2018: Massachusetts' highest court declines to block Healey's investigation into Exxon.

Fossil Fuels on Trial: Where the Major Climate Change Lawsuits Stand Today

But there are still plenty of state level lawsuits out there for the fossil fuel people to consider.

 

[Billy_Bob]

March 21, 2018: Federal judge overseeing the San Francisco and Oakland cases hosts a climate change tutorial for the court. Chevron took the lead during the session. BP, Shell and ConocoPhillips filed statements agreeing with Chevron's comments; Exxon said its viewed differed.

Judicial activism at its worst....

A court telling its staff they must follow green lies not supported evidence.

This is NOT the job of the judiciary.. They are to follow case facts not hyped up bull shit from activists...

 

[Wyatt earp]

In California, where the lawsuits seek billions of dollars to pay for mitigation measures, such as sea walls to protect coastal property, the oil and gas companies responded by seeking to move the cases to federal courts, where nuisance claims are less likely to succeed. That jurisdictional battle rages on. Two California cases that were moved to federal court were dismissed by a judge who said the dangers of climate change are "very real" but that the issue should be handled by Congress.

Key Events:

July 17, 2017: San Mateo County, Marin County and Imperial Beach file separate lawsuits in California Superior Court seeking damages from 37 fossil fuel companies over sea level rise.

Sept. 19, 2017: San Francisco and Oakland file lawsuits in California Superior Court seeking damages from five fossil fuel companies over sea level rise.

Dec. 20, 2017: Santa Cruz and Santa Cruz County file lawsuits in California Superior Court against 29 fossil fuel companies, seeking compensation for climate change-related damage.

Jan. 8, 2018: Exxon asks a Texas court to grant a discovery order allowing the company to question officials in counties and cities suing.

Jan. 9, 2018: New York City files suit in federal court against five fossil fuel companies over climate change-related costs.

Jan. 22, 2018: City of Richmond files lawsuit in California Superior Court against 29 fossil fuel companies.

March 16, 2018: Federal judge rules some of the cases should be tried in state court, creating a conflict with another judge who ruled similar cases belong in federal court.

March 21, 2018: Federal judge overseeing the San Francisco and Oakland cases hosts a climate change tutorial for the court. Chevron took the lead during the session. BP, Shell and ConocoPhillips filed statements agreeing with Chevron's comments; Exxon said its viewed differed.

April 17, 2018: In Colorado, the city of Boulder, Boulder County and San Miguel County file a lawsuit in District Court seeking to hold Exxon and Suncor accountable for costs related to climate change.

April 30, 2018: Five of the cities and counties file a response with the Securities and Exchange Commission after Exxon supporters called for the SEC to investigate them over their bond disclosures.

May 9, 2018: King County, Washington, files a lawsuit in King County Superior Court against BP, Chevron, ConocoPhilips, Exxon and Royal Dutch Shell over infrastruture, health and environment costs related to climate change. King County is home to Seattle.

June 11, 2018: In Colorado, Boulder and San Miguel counties and the City of Boulder add a claim of "civil conspiracy," alleging Exxon and Suncor Energy worked together to promote the use of fossil fuels while dismissing the consequences of climate change.

June 25, 2018: Federal judge dismisses the San Francisco and Oakland cases, saying the dangers of climate change are "very real" but that the issue should be solved by Congress.

July 2, 2018: The state of Rhode Island sues fossil fuel companies in state court over the effects of climate change.

July 19, 2018: A federal judge dismisses New York City's lawsuit, saying climate change should be dealt with by Congress and the president, not the courts.

July 20, 2018: Baltimore sues 26 fossil fuel companies in states court in Maryland.

Fossil Fuels on Trial: Where the Major Climate Change Lawsuits Stand Today

But then, there are many lawsuits out there right now.

All frivolous and with out Merritt .

 

[skookerasbil]

Lol...and when these plaintiffs win in court, guess who foots the bill? Duh......but costs never matter to climate crusader guys.

 

[skookerasbil]

Updated Aug. 14 with a judge dismissing one of the state-level children's climate lawsuits, in Washington.

Since then, Exxon has been waging a relentless fight though state and federal courts to impede the continuing investigations by New York and Massachusetts. It sued Massachusetts Attorney General Maura Healey and then-Attorney General of New York Eric Schneiderman in federal court to block the investigations, but the judge rejected Exxon's claims that the investigations are politically motivated. Legal battles also spilled into the courts of both states; all the way up to the supreme courts of New York and Massachusetts.

Key Events:

Nov. 4, 2015: New York Attorney General Eric Schneiderman issues first Exxon subpoena.

Feb. 29, 2016: Schneiderman announces formation of AGs United for Clean Power coalition.

April 4, 2016: Virgin Islands Attorney General Claude Walker issues subpoena to Exxon and the Competitive Enterprise Institute in a climate change investigation.

April 13, 2016: Exxon sues to block enforcement of Virgin Islands subpoena.

April 19, 2016: Massachusetts Attorney General Maura Healey serves Exxon with civil investigative demand (similar to a subpoena).

June 15, 2016: Exxon goes to federal court in Texas to block Healey's civil investigative demand.

June 16, 2016: Exxon goes to state court in Massachusetts to block Healey's civil investigative demand.

June 29, 2016: Virgin Islands withdraws Exxon subpoena and Exxon agrees to dismiss its related lawsuit.

Oct. 13, 2016: Texas federal judge orders Massachusetts' attorney general to submit to deposition by Exxon.

Oct. 17, 2016: Exxon seeks injunction in Texas federal court to block New York attorney general's investigation.

Nov. 7, 2016: Exxon challenges ruling that an accountant-client privilegein Texas law does not apply in New York and that its auditor, PricewaterhouseCooper, must turn over documents.

Nov. 17, 2016: Texas judge orders Massachusetts Attorney General Healey to appear in Texas for deposition.

Dec. 12, 2016: Judge issues order cancelling deposition of Healey.

Jan. 11, 2017: Massachusetts state court rules Exxon must comply with attorney general's civil investigative demand seeking climate change information.

March 29, 2017: Texas federal judge transfers Exxon's lawsuit to New York federal court.

May 19, 2017: Investigators disclose former Exxon CEO Rex Tillerson used a secret alias email under the name "Wayne Tracker."

June 2, 2017: New York's attorney general calls Exxon's climate accounting a "sham" under Tillerson.

Sept. 12, 2017: New York highest court denies Exxon's request to keep PricewaterhouseCoopers accounting records secret.

Jan. 12, 2018: Exxon seeks to amend its federal case against Healey and Schneiderman.

March 29, 2018: Federal judge rejects Exxon's attempt to derail Healey's and Schneiderman's investigations. Exxon a few weeks later files its intention to appeal the ruling.

April 13, 2018: Massachusetts' highest court declines to block Healey's investigation into Exxon.

Fossil Fuels on Trial: Where the Major Climate Change Lawsuits Stand Today

But there are still plenty of state level lawsuits out there for the fossil fuel people to consider.

Lol.....the fossil fuel industry has been ruthlessly demonized by environmental nutters for four decades. And to what end? Hasn't accomplished dick... nobody cares.....back then or now!!. If they had even been marginally successful, renewable energy would be more than the joke it is today!!! Providing America with a whopping 5% of our electricity!

 

[Old Rocks]

March 21, 2018: Federal judge overseeing the San Francisco and Oakland cases hosts a climate change tutorial for the court. Chevron took the lead during the session. BP, Shell and ConocoPhillips filed statements agreeing with Chevron's comments; Exxon said its viewed differed.

Judicial activism at its worst....

A court telling its staff they must follow green lies not supported evidence.

This is NOT the job of the judiciary.. They are to follow case facts not hyped up bull shit from activists...

No, they are telling that staff to follow science. And not the minions of the treasonous fat senile old orange clown.

 

[Old Rocks]

Updated Aug. 14 with a judge dismissing one of the state-level children's climate lawsuits, in Washington.

Since then, Exxon has been waging a relentless fight though state and federal courts to impede the continuing investigations by New York and Massachusetts. It sued Massachusetts Attorney General Maura Healey and then-Attorney General of New York Eric Schneiderman in federal court to block the investigations, but the judge rejected Exxon's claims that the investigations are politically motivated. Legal battles also spilled into the courts of both states; all the way up to the supreme courts of New York and Massachusetts.

Key Events:

Nov. 4, 2015: New York Attorney General Eric Schneiderman issues first Exxon subpoena.

Feb. 29, 2016: Schneiderman announces formation of AGs United for Clean Power coalition.

April 4, 2016: Virgin Islands Attorney General Claude Walker issues subpoena to Exxon and the Competitive Enterprise Institute in a climate change investigation.

April 13, 2016: Exxon sues to block enforcement of Virgin Islands subpoena.

April 19, 2016: Massachusetts Attorney General Maura Healey serves Exxon with civil investigative demand (similar to a subpoena).

June 15, 2016: Exxon goes to federal court in Texas to block Healey's civil investigative demand.

June 16, 2016: Exxon goes to state court in Massachusetts to block Healey's civil investigative demand.

June 29, 2016: Virgin Islands withdraws Exxon subpoena and Exxon agrees to dismiss its related lawsuit.

Oct. 13, 2016: Texas federal judge orders Massachusetts' attorney general to submit to deposition by Exxon.

Oct. 17, 2016: Exxon seeks injunction in Texas federal court to block New York attorney general's investigation.

Nov. 7, 2016: Exxon challenges ruling that an accountant-client privilegein Texas law does not apply in New York and that its auditor, PricewaterhouseCooper, must turn over documents.

Nov. 17, 2016: Texas judge orders Massachusetts Attorney General Healey to appear in Texas for deposition.

Dec. 12, 2016: Judge issues order cancelling deposition of Healey.

Jan. 11, 2017: Massachusetts state court rules Exxon must comply with attorney general's civil investigative demand seeking climate change information.

March 29, 2017: Texas federal judge transfers Exxon's lawsuit to New York federal court.

May 19, 2017: Investigators disclose former Exxon CEO Rex Tillerson used a secret alias email under the name "Wayne Tracker."

June 2, 2017: New York's attorney general calls Exxon's climate accounting a "sham" under Tillerson.

Sept. 12, 2017: New York highest court denies Exxon's request to keep PricewaterhouseCoopers accounting records secret.

Jan. 12, 2018: Exxon seeks to amend its federal case against Healey and Schneiderman.

March 29, 2018: Federal judge rejects Exxon's attempt to derail Healey's and Schneiderman's investigations. Exxon a few weeks later files its intention to appeal the ruling.

April 13, 2018: Massachusetts' highest court declines to block Healey's investigation into Exxon.

Fossil Fuels on Trial: Where the Major Climate Change Lawsuits Stand Today

But there are still plenty of state level lawsuits out there for the fossil fuel people to consider.

Lol.....the fossil fuel industry has been ruthlessly demonized by environmental nutters for four decades. And to what end? Hasn't accomplished dick... nobody cares.....back then or now!!. If they had even been marginally successful, renewable energy would be more than the joke it is today!!! Providing America with a whopping 5% of our electricity!

Why lie so much?

U.S. Energy Facts - Energy Explained, Your Guide To Understanding Energy - Energy Information Administration

• 
  Domestic energy production is equal to about 90% of U.S. energy consumption in 2017
  
  
  In 2017, the amount of energy produced in the United States was equal to about 87.5 quadrillion Btu, and this was equal to about 89.6% of U.S. energy consumption. The difference between the amount of total primary energy consumption and total primary energy production was mainly the energy content of net imports of crude oil.
  
  The three major fossil fuels—petroleum, natural gas, and coal—combined accounted for about 77.6% of the U.S. primary energy production in 2017:
  
  • Natural gas—31.8%
  • Petroleum (crude oil and natural gas plant liquids)—28.0%
  • Coal—17.8%
  • Renewable energy—12.7%
  • Nuclear electric power—9.6%

 

[skookerasbil]

Updated Aug. 14 with a judge dismissing one of the state-level children's climate lawsuits, in Washington.

Since then, Exxon has been waging a relentless fight though state and federal courts to impede the continuing investigations by New York and Massachusetts. It sued Massachusetts Attorney General Maura Healey and then-Attorney General of New York Eric Schneiderman in federal court to block the investigations, but the judge rejected Exxon's claims that the investigations are politically motivated. Legal battles also spilled into the courts of both states; all the way up to the supreme courts of New York and Massachusetts.

Key Events:

Nov. 4, 2015: New York Attorney General Eric Schneiderman issues first Exxon subpoena.

Feb. 29, 2016: Schneiderman announces formation of AGs United for Clean Power coalition.

April 4, 2016: Virgin Islands Attorney General Claude Walker issues subpoena to Exxon and the Competitive Enterprise Institute in a climate change investigation.

April 13, 2016: Exxon sues to block enforcement of Virgin Islands subpoena.

April 19, 2016: Massachusetts Attorney General Maura Healey serves Exxon with civil investigative demand (similar to a subpoena).

June 15, 2016: Exxon goes to federal court in Texas to block Healey's civil investigative demand.

June 16, 2016: Exxon goes to state court in Massachusetts to block Healey's civil investigative demand.

June 29, 2016: Virgin Islands withdraws Exxon subpoena and Exxon agrees to dismiss its related lawsuit.

Oct. 13, 2016: Texas federal judge orders Massachusetts' attorney general to submit to deposition by Exxon.

Oct. 17, 2016: Exxon seeks injunction in Texas federal court to block New York attorney general's investigation.

Nov. 7, 2016: Exxon challenges ruling that an accountant-client privilegein Texas law does not apply in New York and that its auditor, PricewaterhouseCooper, must turn over documents.

Nov. 17, 2016: Texas judge orders Massachusetts Attorney General Healey to appear in Texas for deposition.

Dec. 12, 2016: Judge issues order cancelling deposition of Healey.

Jan. 11, 2017: Massachusetts state court rules Exxon must comply with attorney general's civil investigative demand seeking climate change information.

March 29, 2017: Texas federal judge transfers Exxon's lawsuit to New York federal court.

May 19, 2017: Investigators disclose former Exxon CEO Rex Tillerson used a secret alias email under the name "Wayne Tracker."

June 2, 2017: New York's attorney general calls Exxon's climate accounting a "sham" under Tillerson.

Sept. 12, 2017: New York highest court denies Exxon's request to keep PricewaterhouseCoopers accounting records secret.

Jan. 12, 2018: Exxon seeks to amend its federal case against Healey and Schneiderman.

March 29, 2018: Federal judge rejects Exxon's attempt to derail Healey's and Schneiderman's investigations. Exxon a few weeks later files its intention to appeal the ruling.

April 13, 2018: Massachusetts' highest court declines to block Healey's investigation into Exxon.

Fossil Fuels on Trial: Where the Major Climate Change Lawsuits Stand Today

But there are still plenty of state level lawsuits out there for the fossil fuel people to consider.

Lol.....the fossil fuel industry has been ruthlessly demonized by environmental nutters for four decades. And to what end? Hasn't accomplished dick... nobody cares.....back then or now!!. If they had even been marginally successful, renewable energy would be more than the joke it is today!!! Providing America with a whopping 5% of our electricity!

Why lie so much?

U.S. Energy Facts - Energy Explained, Your Guide To Understanding Energy - Energy Information Administration

• 
  Domestic energy production is equal to about 90% of U.S. energy consumption in 2017
  
  
  In 2017, the amount of energy produced in the United States was equal to about 87.5 quadrillion Btu, and this was equal to about 89.6% of U.S. energy consumption. The difference between the amount of total primary energy consumption and total primary energy production was mainly the energy content of net imports of crude oil.
  
  The three major fossil fuels—petroleum, natural gas, and coal—combined accounted for about 77.6% of the U.S. primary energy production in 2017:
  • Natural gas—31.8%
  • Petroleum (crude oil and natural gas plant liquids)—28.0%
  • Coal—17.8%
  • Renewable energy—12.7%
  • Nuclear electric power—9.6%

Lol....I dont lie s0n....but 100% certainty you are guilty of posting up fakery all the time in here. Almost every post. Like above.....your stated figure of 12.7% renewables is......FAKE. What % of that figure is solar + wind?

I mean.....c'mon now. Do I really need to do another big boob / little boob analogy to set the curious straight about the fakery? You know....the side by side showing Kim K next to Kate Hudson where the implication becomes you deem Kate Hudson as the big boobed chick.

 

[skookerasbil]

Lol.....solar still makes up just 1% of powering our national grid....

More sun, more wind - But will their success hurt the power grid?


Fakery is ghey

 

[Old Rocks]

Dumb ass, there is a thread where you compatriots are arguing that hydro is renewable, a position I agree with. And here is the closing statement from the site that you posted;

On of the inverters for a 72.5kW solar field at Farmers’ Electric Cooperative in Kalona on Friday, Dec. 22, 2017. (Stephen Mally/The Gazette)
The issue with solar, Johnson said, is it can become an intermittent power source if, for example, homeowners install more solar than they use. Power traveling back and forth on a system can put added wear on some components, he said.

“Circuit by circuit is really where the action is at, I think,” he said. “In a given circuit, if you end up installing a certain amount that ends up becoming as much or more than those consumers use, then that circuit needs to be able to flow backward through the substation.”

Johnson added he is not aware of solar causing any large-scale issues on the grid so far.

Iowa Environmental Council’s Baer said state rules for on-site generation — regulated by the Iowa Utilities Board — provide the framework for statewide solar growth.

To connect solar to the grid, customers first have to determine the impacts of such an addition. The process — which was developed a few years ago and adopted in 2017 — helps ensure that such connections are done in a safe and efficient manner, Baer said.

But most importantly, Baer said, is that wind and solar work together. With a diverse energy portfolio, utilities can dispatch the cheapest option available as conditions and energy prices fluctuate.

“When solar comes on, it can reduce stress in the grid. It can provide clean energy when it’s most expensive,” he said. “Both wind and solar, they’re very complementary.”

More sun, more wind - But will their success hurt the power grid?

Really, you dumb ass deniers should actually read the articles you post. And then there is the use of batteries, both home scale and grid scale. That really changes the whole equation in favor of renewables. Virtual power stations will be a very large part of our energy equation in the future.

 

[skookerasbil]

Lol.....the whole idea is that hydro is 80% or so of renewables. Wind and solar still a joke, especially solar which I've already pointed out provides the US with 1% of our electricity. I guess to some, that's an impressive figure. To most, its laughable. To most, wind and solar combined providing only 5% of our electricity needs is beyond laughable.... particularly after 20 years of bomb-throwing by the climate crusaders!. Why do you think we see most environmentalists described as having green fantasies? It is because they are hopelessly optimistic.....feet off the ground-like. I'm only in this forum because they make such easy targets for ridicule.....put it on a tee for deniers daily. It's a hoot!

 

[Old Rocks]

Solar rises to nearly 2% of U.S. generation in 2017
Generation from U.S. solar increased 41% last year to 1.9% of all electricity, with solar making up more than 10% of generation in California, Nevada, Hawaii and Vermont.

Solar rises to nearly 2% of U.S. generation in 2017

Now wouldn't we all like to have a bank account that increased by 41% in a year.