CDZ Climate Change effects already here, yet denial persists

climate change happens. If you deny that, you deny history and reality. To think taxing people and shit will change it, is also ridiculous.
Its another way for the globalists to take control.. that's it

Well at least you recognize reality here.

What to do about it? Hey, reasonable people can disagree. What do you propose?

If you're worried about CO2, and don't want to wreak the economy, we should build 100 new nuclear reactors.

Why do the warmers fear nuclear power more than they fear CO2?


Uh, maybe for reasons such as this?

fukushima.jpg


Nuclear power is one option, but it carries a host of issues. There is no magic pill. But ignorance and denial is the only truly unacceptable option.

You realize we can build nuclear plants that won't be hit by tidal waves and that don't need electricity for cooling, right?
 
climate change happens. If you deny that, you deny history and reality. To think taxing people and shit will change it, is also ridiculous.
Its another way for the globalists to take control.. that's it

Well at least you recognize reality here.

What to do about it? Hey, reasonable people can disagree. What do you propose?
What are we going to do about natural earth evolution? Get prepared.

It's not natural. It's a result of burning of fossil fuels, consumption of beef and other meats on a never-before-seen scale, etc.


consumptionof beef and other meats on a never-before-seen scale, etc.


What?

Eating meat now is a talking point for the AGW cult?
meat causes digestion time to take longer, therefore causing more buildup.. IE farting lol
 
The climate crisis is already here – but no one’s telling us | George Monbiot

Nothing to see here, right? Just keep commenting on Trump's gaffes, Hillary's emails, Kanye and Taylor, etc.

How many trillions do we need to spend so that climate never ever changes again?

Who said that needs to happen? This is an intellectually dishonest remark.

Who said that needs to happen?

Why are liberals whining about "Climate Change"?
Are you saying they're being dishonest?
 
Maybe the limp wrists will make a fart tax since their rain tax got shot in the foot?
 
George Moonbat wants to convince us, that once you make the necessary adjustments...it's the hottest JULY EVAH!!!! And our only salvation is to embrace EnviroMarxism.

There is still not one single repeatable lab experiment that shows how an additional 120PPM of CO2 will raise temperature.

Not one single experiment

No, there's just real-time events demonstrating that this is, in fact, happening.


I see this thread going to the bad lands real fast.

Not sure why. The facts are not controversial to those in the know. Similarly, evolution by natural selection is also not controversial, except in churches in the U.S.

Before you change your own subject -- It's not a matter of WHETHER it's warming -- but how much and WHY.

To believe the GW theory -- you have to believe that we're riding in a junker of Planet that will KILL ITSELF -- if a 2deg "trigger change" in temperature is ever seen. You have to BELIEVE in very theoretical ACCELERATIONS and positive feedbacks that are STILL being debated.

There IS a warming power to CO2 --- obviously. But the BASIC physics/chemistry calculations are that a DOUBLING of CO2 will result in about 1.1DegC change in temperature. THAT is NOT a crisis. And is nowhere near the HIGHLY EXAGGERATED earlier estimates of 6 even 8 DegC by 2100.

There is no reasonable brawl to be had over whether IT is real. Unless you define and understand what IT is.
 
George Moonbat wants to convince us, that once you make the necessary adjustments...it's the hottest JULY EVAH!!!! And our only salvation is to embrace EnviroMarxism.

There is still not one single repeatable lab experiment that shows how an additional 120PPM of CO2 will raise temperature.

Not one single experiment

No, there's just real-time events demonstrating that this is, in fact, happening.

Yes but the way science actually works outside of the Moonbat EnviroMarxist Cult is that you're supposed to try to falsify your theory.

Have you any experiments to show us that control for all variables except for a wisp of CO2?

A wisp??? lol!

43_24_g-co2-l.jpg

Long history charts like that -- take very low resolution Ice Core Data that cannot recreate the short term higher variances in the data --- And then splice on MODERN instrumentation records to the end of it.

It's a Frankenstein way of attaching a scary head to a zombie body..
 
George Moonbat wants to convince us, that once you make the necessary adjustments...it's the hottest JULY EVAH!!!! And our only salvation is to embrace EnviroMarxism.

There is still not one single repeatable lab experiment that shows how an additional 120PPM of CO2 will raise temperature.

Not one single experiment

No, there's just real-time events demonstrating that this is, in fact, happening.


I see this thread going to the bad lands real fast.

Not sure why. The facts are not controversial to those in the know. Similarly, evolution by natural selection is also not controversial, except in churches in the U.S.


What facts?

Where is this identical planet earth you speak of and void of humans?
 
climate change happens. If you deny that, you deny history and reality. To think taxing people and shit will change it, is also ridiculous.
Its another way for the globalists to take control.. that's it

Well at least you recognize reality here.

What to do about it? Hey, reasonable people can disagree. What do you propose?

If you're worried about CO2, and don't want to wreak the economy, we should build 100 new nuclear reactors.

Why do the warmers fear nuclear power more than they fear CO2?


Uh, maybe for reasons such as this?

fukushima.jpg


Nuclear power is one option, but it carries a host of issues. There is no magic pill. But ignorance and denial is the only truly unacceptable option.


Should matter to you.. That's NOT the reactor complex at Fukushima Nuclear. That's a petroleum storage facility somewhere on the same coast. But ---- Hey --- what's the diff? If warmer folks ARE more scared of nuclear than Global Warming -- it does put things in perspective.
 
Ok Gary. There have been 5 ice ages. What happened in between? You see there has been millions of years of climate change. OMG! And I'm supposed to entrust my future and the worlds future over to politicians?

Never before has the heat-up been this quick, this severe, and driven so clearly by fossil fuel production. We're a force of nature, and we're defying the natural change that allows plants and animals to adapt.
 
climate change happens. If you deny that, you deny history and reality. To think taxing people and shit will change it, is also ridiculous.
Its another way for the globalists to take control.. that's it

Well at least you recognize reality here.

What to do about it? Hey, reasonable people can disagree. What do you propose?

If you're worried about CO2, and don't want to wreak the economy, we should build 100 new nuclear reactors.

Why do the warmers fear nuclear power more than they fear CO2?


Uh, maybe for reasons such as this?

fukushima.jpg


Nuclear power is one option, but it carries a host of issues. There is no magic pill. But ignorance and denial is the only truly unacceptable option.


Should matter to you.. That's NOT the reactor complex at Fukushima Nuclear. That's a petroleum storage facility somewhere on the same coast. But ---- Hey --- what's the diff? If warmer folks ARE more scared of nuclear than Global Warming -- it does put things in perspective.

I linked up google image search to the wrong thing. Sue me. I don't think scientists or ...."warmer folks"(?)....are more scared of nuclear than global warming. That being said, when we have a reactor meltdown and it renders an area uninhabitable for thousands of years, that's kind of a big deal.
 
climate change happens. If you deny that, you deny history and reality. To think taxing people and shit will change it, is also ridiculous.
Its another way for the globalists to take control.. that's it

Well at least you recognize reality here.

What to do about it? Hey, reasonable people can disagree. What do you propose?
What are we going to do about natural earth evolution? Get prepared.

It's not natural. It's a result of burning of fossil fuels, consumption of beef and other meats on a never-before-seen scale, etc.


consumptionof beef and other meats on a never-before-seen scale, etc.


What?

Eating meat now is a talking point for the AGW cult?

The amount of energy it takes to produce cheeseburgers has a carboon footprint that's equivalent to all SUVs drven in the U.S.

Learn something.

The Cheeseburger Footprint
 
Ok Gary. There have been 5 ice ages. What happened in between? You see there has been millions of years of climate change. OMG! And I'm supposed to entrust my future and the worlds future over to politicians?

Never before has the heat-up been this quick, this severe, and driven so clearly by fossil fuel production. We're a force of nature, and we're defying the natural change that allows plants and animals to adapt.


Prove it the great Sahara went tropical to dry in only a few hundred years which is common knowledge among scientist.

Prove it, scientist suggest it was warmer in the Roman era.

Prove it pal...you would WIN a Nobel prize if you could
 
George Moonbat wants to convince us, that once you make the necessary adjustments...it's the hottest JULY EVAH!!!! And our only salvation is to embrace EnviroMarxism.

There is still not one single repeatable lab experiment that shows how an additional 120PPM of CO2 will raise temperature.

Not one single experiment

No, there's just real-time events demonstrating that this is, in fact, happening.

Yes but the way science actually works outside of the Moonbat EnviroMarxist Cult is that you're supposed to try to falsify your theory.

Have you any experiments to show us that control for all variables except for a wisp of CO2?

A wisp??? lol!

43_24_g-co2-l.jpg

Long history charts like that -- take very low resolution Ice Core Data that cannot recreate the short term higher variances in the data --- And then splice on MODERN instrumentation records to the end of it.

It's a Frankenstein way of attaching a scary head to a zombie body..

Someone's making the argument that we're NOT spewing way more CO2 into the atmosphere? That's a novel notion.

Gotta link?
 
climate change happens. If you deny that, you deny history and reality. To think taxing people and shit will change it, is also ridiculous.
Its another way for the globalists to take control.. that's it

Well at least you recognize reality here.

What to do about it? Hey, reasonable people can disagree. What do you propose?
What are we going to do about natural earth evolution? Get prepared.

It's not natural. It's a result of burning of fossil fuels, consumption of beef and other meats on a never-before-seen scale, etc.


consumptionof beef and other meats on a never-before-seen scale, etc.


What?

Eating meat now is a talking point for the AGW cult?

The amount of energy it takes to produce cheeseburgers has a carboon footprint that's equivalent to all SUVs drven in the U.S.

Learn something.

The Cheeseburger Footprint


Then quit eating cheese burgers and quit reading blogs
 
Ok Gary. There have been 5 ice ages. What happened in between? You see there has been millions of years of climate change. OMG! And I'm supposed to entrust my future and the worlds future over to politicians?

Never before has the heat-up been this quick, this severe, and driven so clearly by fossil fuel production. We're a force of nature, and we're defying the natural change that allows plants and animals to adapt.


Prove it the great Sahara went tropical to dry in only a few hundred years which is common knowledge among scientist.

Prove it, scientist suggest it was warmer in the Roman era.


Prove it pal...you would WIN a Nobel prize if you could

Links to any of those debunked assertions?

If you're so confident in the scientific acumen of a few crackpots (or even dozens of qualified scientists) who claim this, why are you doubting the consensus of science today about global climate change?
 
It's not natural. It's a result of burning of fossil fuels, consumption of beef and other meats on a never-before-seen scale, etc.

That's your opinion. I differ with it and apparently most Americans aren't all that concerned.

Climate ranks 17th -- dead last -- in Gallup poll of voter concerns.

Trump Leads Clinton on Top-Ranking Economic Issues

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Argumentum ad populum fallacy. Americans are not smart. We're inundated with TMZ and sportscenter. This is news?
 

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