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Electors, if there are no state laws barring such can vote for the president of their choice.
How many examples of faithless votes can you reference in history?
About 2 dozen.
Proceed.
Here you go.
Faithless Electors - Fairvote
Pretty thin since 1912.
The idea to use the EC numbers by states using the popular vote will not be in operation till the 2024 season. Trump gonna run for that one also as a dead dark horse candidate?Thanks for an Extra 197 Electoral Votes Dim Tards!No matter who is elected Congress will still find any way to screw the taxpayers..
LMFAO!
Based on 15 DemNazi Dem Tard Blue States deciding only The National Popular Vote Winner will get their Electoral Votes, and President Trump being predicted to get 52% of The Popular vote this time, if he just wins all the same states, he will end up with 503 Electoral votes and the DemTard Loser will get just 28.
Hilarious!
How many examples of faithless votes can you reference in history?
About 2 dozen.
Proceed.
Here you go.
Faithless Electors - Fairvote
Pretty thin since 1912.
Yeah, as that link also mentioned many states have created laws that do not allow faithless electors. But what does "pretty thin since 1912" have to do with it? The Constitution in this respect hasn't changed.
"Pretty thin since 1912" - Great argument dude,
Electors, if there are no state laws barring such can vote for the president of their choice.
How many examples of faithless votes can you reference in history?
About 2 dozen.
Proceed.
Here you go.
Faithless Electors - Fairvote
Pretty thin since 1912.
Pretty thin since 1912.
Yeah, as that link also mentioned many states have created laws that do not allow faithless electors. But what does "pretty thin since 1912" have to do with it? The Constitution in this respect hasn't changed.
"Pretty thin since 1912" - Great argument dude,
Shrug. Not the subject anyway.
If 10 of 12 electors in a state vote for the candidate who loses the popular vote, the state has no authority to arbitrarily grant all 12 votes to the winner of the popular vote.
Fuck ALL Democrats. They are some EVIL LYING UNPATRIOTIC, BACKSTABBING, AMERICAN HATING SON OF A BITCHES WHO SIDE WITH OUT ENEMIES, & WHO ONLY CARE ABOUT POLITICAL POWER!
I hope California and New York gets hit with an asteroid.
Impact On Congressional Apportionment
Non-citizens Have Large Impact. Immigration has a significant effect on the distribution of seats in the U.S. House of Representatives for three reasons. First, seats are apportioned based on each state's total population relative to the rest of the country, including illegal aliens and other non-citizens. This, of course, is the issue at the center of Congresswomen Miller's proposal. Second, congress has chosen to allow in a large number of legal immigrants and to tolerate wide spread illegal immigration. After the 2000 Census, the average congressional district had roughly 650,000 people. Thus, the more than 18 million non-citizens in the 2000 Census were equal to nearly 29 congressional seats. The third reason is that non-citizens are not evenly distributed throughout the country. In 2000, half of all non-citizens lived in just three states and almost 70 percent live in just six states. States with a large non-citizen population will gain at the expense of states comprised mostly of citizens.
Impact of Illegal Aliens.
In our 2003 apportionment study we also tried to estimate the impact of illegal aliens by themselves. The former INS has estimated the size and state distribution of illegals who responded to the Census, and we used those figures to estimate their impact on the distribution of House seats. We found that of the nine states that lost seats due to non-citizens, four were the result of illegals. This makes perfect sense because 40 to 45 percent of non-citizens are illegal aliens. Indiana, Michigan, and Mississippi each lost one seat in the House and Montana failed to gain a seat it otherwise would have gained because of illegal aliens in other states.
Impact on Electoral College.
Immigration and the resulting non-citizen population not only redistributes seats in the House, it has the same effect on presidential elections because the apportionment of the Electoral College is based on the same basic calculations as congressional delegations. Thus immigration policy and the resulting large non-citizen population it produces impacts the distribution of political influence both in Congress and in the Executive.
The Impact of Non-Citizens on Congressional Apportionment
How many examples of faithless votes can you reference in history?
About 2 dozen.
Proceed.
Here you go.
Faithless Electors - Fairvote
Pretty thin since 1912.
Not only is it thin, it's not even remotely the same legal issue. You're talking about the gubernatorial arm of the state intervening in the federal electoral process and awarding bulk electoral votes to a candidate that may not have won the popular vote in that state. It would be rendered completely illegal most likely by the first tier federal courts. At that point the state's electoral organization would run the risk of losing any say whatsoever in the process and being overruled by the federal court system who would then take the electoral votes and place them traditionally where they belong. I'm not saying these idiots won't give it a try but I'll guarantee you this is how it will end up.
Jo
I live here.He is also down on the polls to Biden in Texas... Yes Texas...
Pretty thin since 1912.
Yeah, as that link also mentioned many states have created laws that do not allow faithless electors. But what does "pretty thin since 1912" have to do with it? The Constitution in this respect hasn't changed.
"Pretty thin since 1912" - Great argument dude,
Shrug. Not the subject anyway.
Really? Did you honestly ask me how many faithless electors there have been and you didn't find the answer first for yourself or that it would backfire on you? Pathetic. OK, on to your next point.
What 10 or 12 electors are you talking about? They would vote for the popular vote winner, the state is not going to override the electors, the electors are going to pledge to vote for the popular vote winner before the election, that will be the state law.
You are an enemy of The UNITED STATES OF AMERICA if you support Illegal Immigration, Support Blue States wanting to get Unfair, and Unequal Representation in Congress, and The Electoral College, and you are an Enemy of The United States if you want to USURP The WILL OF THE PEOPLE of ANY STATE and force them to give their Electoral College Votes to a candidate they did not vote for and who did not win that state.Fuck ALL Democrats. They are some EVIL LYING UNPATRIOTIC, BACKSTABBING, AMERICAN HATING SON OF A BITCHES WHO SIDE WITH OUT ENEMIES, & WHO ONLY CARE ABOUT POLITICAL POWER!
I hope California and New York gets hit with an asteroid.
Impact On Congressional Apportionment
Non-citizens Have Large Impact. Immigration has a significant effect on the distribution of seats in the U.S. House of Representatives for three reasons. First, seats are apportioned based on each state's total population relative to the rest of the country, including illegal aliens and other non-citizens. This, of course, is the issue at the center of Congresswomen Miller's proposal. Second, congress has chosen to allow in a large number of legal immigrants and to tolerate wide spread illegal immigration. After the 2000 Census, the average congressional district had roughly 650,000 people. Thus, the more than 18 million non-citizens in the 2000 Census were equal to nearly 29 congressional seats. The third reason is that non-citizens are not evenly distributed throughout the country. In 2000, half of all non-citizens lived in just three states and almost 70 percent live in just six states. States with a large non-citizen population will gain at the expense of states comprised mostly of citizens.
Impact of Illegal Aliens.
In our 2003 apportionment study we also tried to estimate the impact of illegal aliens by themselves. The former INS has estimated the size and state distribution of illegals who responded to the Census, and we used those figures to estimate their impact on the distribution of House seats. We found that of the nine states that lost seats due to non-citizens, four were the result of illegals. This makes perfect sense because 40 to 45 percent of non-citizens are illegal aliens. Indiana, Michigan, and Mississippi each lost one seat in the House and Montana failed to gain a seat it otherwise would have gained because of illegal aliens in other states.
Impact on Electoral College.
Immigration and the resulting non-citizen population not only redistributes seats in the House, it has the same effect on presidential elections because the apportionment of the Electoral College is based on the same basic calculations as congressional delegations. Thus immigration policy and the resulting large non-citizen population it produces impacts the distribution of political influence both in Congress and in the Executive.
The Impact of Non-Citizens on Congressional Apportionment
I didn't read your link, any link you post is suspect of being a confirmation bias.
For those not so willfully dishonest or willfully ignorant herein is a rebuttal to what I didn't read, but knowing the poster of the link, I have a pretty good idea:
FACT CHECK: Trump Repeats Voter Fraud Claim About California
For the Record:
California now world’s 5th largest economy, surpassing UK
California’s economic output is now surpassed only by the total GDP of the United States, China, Japan and Germany. The state has 12 percent of the U.S. population but contributed 16 percent of the country’s job growth between 2012 and 2017. Its share of the national economy also grew from 12.8 percent to 14.2 percent over that five-year period, according to state economists.
Pretty thin since 1912.
Yeah, as that link also mentioned many states have created laws that do not allow faithless electors. But what does "pretty thin since 1912" have to do with it? The Constitution in this respect hasn't changed.
"Pretty thin since 1912" - Great argument dude,
Shrug. Not the subject anyway.
Really? Did you honestly ask me how many faithless electors there have been and you didn't find the answer first for yourself or that it would backfire on you? Pathetic. OK, on to your next point.
It's your job to support your contentions, not mine.
What 10 or 12 electors are you talking about? They would vote for the popular vote winner, the state is not going to override the electors, the electors are going to pledge to vote for the popular vote winner before the election, that will be the state law.
The National Popular Vote Interstate Compact (NPVIC) is an agreement among a group of U.S. states and the District of Columbia to award all their electoral votes to whichever presidential candidate wins the overall popular vote in the 50 states and the District of Columbia.
National Popular Vote Interstate Compact - Wikipedia
Is the fix in already?The National Popular Vote bill has been enacted by 15 jurisdictions possessing 189 electoral votes, including 5 small jurisdictions (RI, VT, HI, DC, DE), 6 medium- size states (MD, MA, NM, WA, CT, CO), and four big states (NJ, IL, NY, CA).
Agreement Among the States to Elect the President by National Popular Vote
How stupid are these small and medium sized states?
Trump knows the realities of election. He wrote off Calif/NY ...but will not if the above becomes relevant.
So if the electoral college is not relevant in 2020 don't you suppose Trump's experience in advertising would have him then concentrating in the most populous states?
Nothing Like 15 States Colluding to over throw The Will of the People, USURP States Rights, and Representation and do to our Elections what No country , NOT EVEN RUSSIA, COULD DO!Is the fix in already?The National Popular Vote bill has been enacted by 15 jurisdictions possessing 189 electoral votes, including 5 small jurisdictions (RI, VT, HI, DC, DE), 6 medium- size states (MD, MA, NM, WA, CT, CO), and four big states (NJ, IL, NY, CA).
Agreement Among the States to Elect the President by National Popular Vote
How stupid are these small and medium sized states?
Trump knows the realities of election. He wrote off Calif/NY ...but will not if the above becomes relevant.
So if the electoral college is not relevant in 2020 don't you suppose Trump's experience in advertising would have him then concentrating in the most populous states?
Pretty thin since 1912.
Yeah, as that link also mentioned many states have created laws that do not allow faithless electors. But what does "pretty thin since 1912" have to do with it? The Constitution in this respect hasn't changed.
"Pretty thin since 1912" - Great argument dude,
Shrug. Not the subject anyway.
Really? Did you honestly ask me how many faithless electors there have been and you didn't find the answer first for yourself or that it would backfire on you? Pathetic. OK, on to your next point.
It's your job to support your contentions, not mine.
What 10 or 12 electors are you talking about? They would vote for the popular vote winner, the state is not going to override the electors, the electors are going to pledge to vote for the popular vote winner before the election, that will be the state law.
The National Popular Vote Interstate Compact (NPVIC) is an agreement among a group of U.S. states and the District of Columbia to award all their electoral votes to whichever presidential candidate wins the overall popular vote in the 50 states and the District of Columbia.
National Popular Vote Interstate Compact - Wikipedia
Their votesNothing Like 15 States Colluding to over throw The Will of the People, USURP States Rights, and Representation and do to our Elections what No country , NOT EVEN RUSSIA, COULD DO!Is the fix in already?The National Popular Vote bill has been enacted by 15 jurisdictions possessing 189 electoral votes, including 5 small jurisdictions (RI, VT, HI, DC, DE), 6 medium- size states (MD, MA, NM, WA, CT, CO), and four big states (NJ, IL, NY, CA).
Agreement Among the States to Elect the President by National Popular Vote
How stupid are these small and medium sized states?
Trump knows the realities of election. He wrote off Calif/NY ...but will not if the above becomes relevant.
So if the electoral college is not relevant in 2020 don't you suppose Trump's experience in advertising would have him then concentrating in the most populous states?
Why does The Left feel they have to cheat and break The Law to win?
Pretty thin since 1912.
Yeah, as that link also mentioned many states have created laws that do not allow faithless electors. But what does "pretty thin since 1912" have to do with it? The Constitution in this respect hasn't changed.
"Pretty thin since 1912" - Great argument dude,
Shrug. Not the subject anyway.
Really? Did you honestly ask me how many faithless electors there have been and you didn't find the answer first for yourself or that it would backfire on you? Pathetic. OK, on to your next point.
If 10 of 12 electors in a state vote for the candidate who loses the popular vote, the state has no authority to arbitrarily grant all 12 votes to the winner of the popular vote.
What 10 or 12 electors are you talking about? They would vote for the popular vote winner, the state is not going to override the electors, the electors are going to pledge to vote for the popular vote winner before the election, that will be the state law.
Their votesNothing Like 15 States Colluding to over throw The Will of the People, USURP States Rights, and Representation and do to our Elections what No country , NOT EVEN RUSSIA, COULD DO!Is the fix in already?The National Popular Vote bill has been enacted by 15 jurisdictions possessing 189 electoral votes, including 5 small jurisdictions (RI, VT, HI, DC, DE), 6 medium- size states (MD, MA, NM, WA, CT, CO), and four big states (NJ, IL, NY, CA).
Agreement Among the States to Elect the President by National Popular Vote
How stupid are these small and medium sized states?
Trump knows the realities of election. He wrote off Calif/NY ...but will not if the above becomes relevant.
So if the electoral college is not relevant in 2020 don't you suppose Trump's experience in advertising would have him then concentrating in the most populous states?
Why does The Left feel they have to cheat and break The Law to win?
They get to decide
Pretty thin since 1912.
Yeah, as that link also mentioned many states have created laws that do not allow faithless electors. But what does "pretty thin since 1912" have to do with it? The Constitution in this respect hasn't changed.
"Pretty thin since 1912" - Great argument dude,
Shrug. Not the subject anyway.
Really? Did you honestly ask me how many faithless electors there have been and you didn't find the answer first for yourself or that it would backfire on you? Pathetic. OK, on to your next point.
If 10 of 12 electors in a state vote for the candidate who loses the popular vote, the state has no authority to arbitrarily grant all 12 votes to the winner of the popular vote.
What 10 or 12 electors are you talking about? They would vote for the popular vote winner, the state is not going to override the electors, the electors are going to pledge to vote for the popular vote winner before the election, that will be the state law.
And it will become another state law struck down by the federal courts because it pertains to a federal system.
You're dreaming of something that's never going to happen.
Jo
So if Donald Trump wins The National Popular Vote and right now is projected to win 53% to 54% OF IT, you are totally cool with California and New York, and Illinois and all 15 states who are part of the suicide pact BEING FORCED to give their Electoral Votes to President Trump even though he did not win California or New York?Their votesNothing Like 15 States Colluding to over throw The Will of the People, USURP States Rights, and Representation and do to our Elections what No country , NOT EVEN RUSSIA, COULD DO!Is the fix in already?The National Popular Vote bill has been enacted by 15 jurisdictions possessing 189 electoral votes, including 5 small jurisdictions (RI, VT, HI, DC, DE), 6 medium- size states (MD, MA, NM, WA, CT, CO), and four big states (NJ, IL, NY, CA).
Agreement Among the States to Elect the President by National Popular Vote
How stupid are these small and medium sized states?
Trump knows the realities of election. He wrote off Calif/NY ...but will not if the above becomes relevant.
So if the electoral college is not relevant in 2020 don't you suppose Trump's experience in advertising would have him then concentrating in the most populous states?
Why does The Left feel they have to cheat and break The Law to win?
They get to decide
