Census data shows Obamacare and welfare kept millions out of poverty

[thereisnospoon]

That makes no sense... people are so bad off they need public assistance and you claim public assistance kept them from being poor?
More evidence left wingers are dumber than a sack of rocks.

They assume that being on government assistance is a wonderful state to be in....and not poverty. ...because welfare feels so warm and fuzzy.....to Democraps.

liberal policies have made poverty into something comfortable.

 

[sealybobo]

Middle Class Lost In Obama's 'Middle Class Economics'
Economy: After six-plus years of President Obama's big-spending, tax-raising policies, middle-class families have seen their incomes decline and more families have fallen into poverty, Census data show.

The Census Bureau's latest annual report on income and poverty in America shows that there was little to cheer about in 2014.

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How would you raise wages?

Remember before bush high school grads could go find a ggod paying union job and raise a family. Those jobs are all but gone.

So how you gonna help high school grads get better pay?

By continuing their education or job training skills.
Oh, BTW, those wonderful union jobs you so lovingly like to mention? Only is a few areas of the country did those jobs ever exist.
At its peak, unions represented just one third of all US workers.
Unions did themselves in. Unions refused to adjust to the times. Unions made labor costs non competitive in many markets. So business did what it needed to do for self preservation.
The days of unions are over. Move on. Others have.

So now the masses who don't like school are just SOL? That's what I thought.

Perhaps you never worked in a factory before. Those aren't the school types. So now you want the masses to go to college just to get a degree to do what? We're talking about the masses. I don't think Republicans get that.

The honest answer is you don't think the masses should do as well as they have.

This should be a warning to Honda and Toyota employees down south. They only pay you well so you don't unionize. Take away that threat and why should a Toyota worker who didn't go to college make more than minimum wage?

Hey, if one does not like school, that is a choice THEY are free to make. They also don't then have the right to turn around and demand higher wages if they make the conscious choice to not further their education or training.
Factory work is no longer for the general studies high school graduate. Jobs in manufacturing now require more advanced skills and training.
Define "the masses"....Companies do not hire "the masses"....They hire individuals
"The honest answer is you don't think the masses should do as well as they have.".....You don't get to assume anything such as this. Admit you are speculating.
I am not concerned with "the masses" because there is no such thing as "the masses"....
"They only pay you well so you don't unionize."....So what? The workers are well compensated. Other than your pro union stance, what is your point? Seems by your story telling about how wonderful unions are and the bubble in which you lived. Fine.
No one claimed any one must possess a college degree in order to gain employment in a manufacturing environment. Prospective employees are also recruited for their exceptional skill levels. Experience in the manufacturing fields is also a plus. The bottom line is the days of an untrained high school drop out or graduate walking into a factory filling out an application and 35 years later walks out with a pension and a Timex.
Based on your making of excuses for these people ( don't like school, not the school types) I see you are the one who not only doesn't get it. You refuse to "get it"....
BTW, those auto manufacturers have factories all over the country.....Not just "down south"...
In fact just ONE of Honda;s US plants are "down south"....
The list......
Marysville, OH
East Liberty, OH
Greensburg, IN
Lincoln, AL
The other North American plant is in Ontario, CAN
Toyota has plants in MS, TX, KY, IN(2), WV,
The fact that really pisses off you people is that the union thugs can't get their grubby paws on them.

I don't care if the unions get their paws on those non union plants. I'm telling you that when unions are gone, those factory workers will never see another raise for as long as they live. In fact the ones who are making close to union wages will be asked to leave and being a non union plant, they will have no right to their job.

I'm just telling you what created the big huge strong fat middle class we had until Reagan started dismantling it.

So don't cry that "wages are down" in America. Because you see the middle class was doing well for decades because those union "thugs" were making such good wages that it created the great economy and middle class we got use to having around.

So don't cry and say wages are down in America and try to blame it on Obama. Unless you want Obama to pay for all those uneducated workers to get more schooling and unless you expect him to help them study because they are not meant for school. Yes, the masses are not meant for school. Do you get that? So we will NEVER see the middle class or economy that liberals and unions produced because "the masses" will not just automatically get smarter. Instead of going to work for Ford or GM they will go work for Walmart. Congrats. This is the new America. A much smaller middle class than we had before the GOP got their hands on our economy.

I'm ok with it. I have an education and I am not in a union. FUCK the uneducated low class Americans. I used to care but they don't even care enough to show up and vote. AND, a lot of them vote GOP. So fuck them!

You wait and see. Honda's wages will only go up when GM and Chrysler's wages go up. So those Honda employees may not realize it but they too benefit from unions and collective bargaining.

There is no other reason those Honda factory rats make what they make. NO other reason.

 

[sealybobo]

Middle Class Lost In Obama's 'Middle Class Economics'
Economy: After six-plus years of President Obama's big-spending, tax-raising policies, middle-class families have seen their incomes decline and more families have fallen into poverty, Census data show.

The Census Bureau's latest annual report on income and poverty in America shows that there was little to cheer about in 2014.

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How would you raise wages?

Remember before bush high school grads could go find a ggod paying union job and raise a family. Those jobs are all but gone.

So how you gonna help high school grads get better pay?

By continuing their education or job training skills.
Oh, BTW, those wonderful union jobs you so lovingly like to mention? Only is a few areas of the country did those jobs ever exist.
At its peak, unions represented just one third of all US workers.
Unions did themselves in. Unions refused to adjust to the times. Unions made labor costs non competitive in many markets. So business did what it needed to do for self preservation.
The days of unions are over. Move on. Others have.

So now the masses who don't like school are just SOL? That's what I thought.

Perhaps you never worked in a factory before. Those aren't the school types. So now you want the masses to go to college just to get a degree to do what? We're talking about the masses. I don't think Republicans get that.

The honest answer is you don't think the masses should do as well as they have.

This should be a warning to Honda and Toyota employees down south. They only pay you well so you don't unionize. Take away that threat and why should a Toyota worker who didn't go to college make more than minimum wage?

Hey, if one does not like school, that is a choice THEY are free to make. They also don't then have the right to turn around and demand higher wages if they make the conscious choice to not further their education or training.
Factory work is no longer for the general studies high school graduate. Jobs in manufacturing now require more advanced skills and training.
Define "the masses"....Companies do not hire "the masses"....They hire individuals
"The honest answer is you don't think the masses should do as well as they have.".....You don't get to assume anything such as this. Admit you are speculating.
I am not concerned with "the masses" because there is no such thing as "the masses"....
"They only pay you well so you don't unionize."....So what? The workers are well compensated. Other than your pro union stance, what is your point? Seems by your story telling about how wonderful unions are and the bubble in which you lived. Fine.
No one claimed any one must possess a college degree in order to gain employment in a manufacturing environment. Prospective employees are also recruited for their exceptional skill levels. Experience in the manufacturing fields is also a plus. The bottom line is the days of an untrained high school drop out or graduate walking into a factory filling out an application and 35 years later walks out with a pension and a Timex.
Based on your making of excuses for these people ( don't like school, not the school types) I see you are the one who not only doesn't get it. You refuse to "get it"....
BTW, those auto manufacturers have factories all over the country.....Not just "down south"...
In fact just ONE of Honda;s US plants are "down south"....
The list......
Marysville, OH
East Liberty, OH
Greensburg, IN
Lincoln, AL
The other North American plant is in Ontario, CAN
Toyota has plants in MS, TX, KY, IN(2), WV,
The fact that really pisses off you people is that the union thugs can't get their grubby paws on them.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/19/b...uld-give-2nd-tier-workers-big-raise.html?_r=0

The tentative agreement, reached this week, calls for immediate wage increases for all of Fiat Chrysler’s 36,000 hourly workers in the United States

Honda is shitting their pants because soon they will have to give their employees a raise. The Honda employees should thank the UAW but they are too ignorant.

Honda factory rats didn't go to college, did they? So why do they make more than minimum wage? Only one reason. FEAR OF UNIONIZING!

 

[bedowin62]

actual reality shows obamacare and obama moved millions INTO Poverty

 

[sealybobo]

It's amazing what Obama can do by printing $38 billion per month. Print the money, give it away to people who don't want to work, drive interest rates to zero, drive investment away from Main Street to Wall Street, claim that the the economy is vastly improved by negating the unemployed from unemployment figures, then blame the resultant poor on the Republicans.

The fix is in. Dog wags tail.

End of fucking story.

Yes, we remember how well the US did under Dubya/GOP 'job Creator" policies for 8 years, you know when Dubya cheered on the Banksters bubble as they used their homes as ATM's? Good job there right?

So how is it that those EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEVIL corporations are screwing the American worker?
The left's problem is they demand to have it both ways...

Looks like the job creators are doing a fine job of killing the middle class all by themselves.

Tell us some more about the job killing unions?.

I'm a corporate president, and that graph looks right to me.

When was the last time you managed anything other than a hot-dog cart?

Money in any business is a fleeting thing. And debt in any business is a mounting thing.

If you are a corporate president, don't ask us to agree when you cut workers pay but give yourself a 500% raise.

You're the only one here who should vote GOP.

By the way, my brothers a corporate VP for a fortune 500 and he votes democratic.

You probably own a subway franchise.

 

[Dad2three]

Middle Class Lost In Obama's 'Middle Class Economics'
Economy: After six-plus years of President Obama's big-spending, tax-raising policies, middle-class families have seen their incomes decline and more families have fallen into poverty, Census data show.

The Census Bureau's latest annual report on income and poverty in America shows that there was little to cheer about in 2014.

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Reagan tripled the national debt, obama was handed one of the worst disasters in decades. Jobs are being added rapidly.

Reagan is dead

Obiwan's link destroyed your OP

and

Job numbers are still a negative net

Job numbers negative net? lol

Can't have it both ways. BTW 60% of all US Workers are employed by small business. That is employers of less than 100 people. One other thing. IN spite of your sycophantic feelings toward Obama, there is one certainty, the economy is cyclical. I just is. What goes up MUST come down. And of course the opposite is true.
Deal with it.

WTF? You dumbass, YOU claimed a net job loss, nice dodge dumfuk!


Cyclical? lol

 

[Dad2three]

Yes, we remember how well the US did under Dubya/GOP 'job Creator" policies for 8 years, you know when Dubya cheered on the Banksters bubble as they used their homes as ATM's? Good job there right?

So how is it that those EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEVIL corporations are screwing the American worker?
The left's problem is they demand to have it both ways...

Looks like the job creators are doing a fine job of killing the middle class all by themselves.

Tell us some more about the job killing unions?.

I'm a corporate president, and that graph looks right to me.

When was the last time you managed anything other than a hot-dog cart?

Money in any business is a fleeting thing. And debt in any business is a mounting thing.

Hot dog carts huh? They have a corp title like that Bubs?


RECORD FUKKN CORP PROFITS IN THE US FOR OVER A DECADE, LOWEST SUSTAINED TAX BURDEN ON THE "JOB CREATORS" FOR 14 YEARS, LOWEST EFFECTIVE TAX BURDEN ON CORPS ANYWHERE IN THE DEVELOPED WORLD EXCEPT CHILE AND MEXICO, LOWEST SHARE OF COSTS COSTS EVER FOR CORPS

60% OF MIN WAGE JOBS ARE BY CORPS WITH 500+ EMPLOYEES

OVER HALF OF ALL US CAPITAL GAINS AND DIVIDENDS GO TO THE TOP 1/10TH OF 1% OF US

None of which is true.

Sorry, I was wrong:
The central finding of this report is that the majority of America’s lowest-paid workers are employed by large corporations, not small businesses


Specifically:

* The majority (66 percent) of low-wage workers are not employed by small businesses, but rather by large corporations with over 100 employees;


Corporate Profits of Low-Wage Employers




HALF OF CAP GAINS AND DIVIDENDS GO THE THE TOP 1/10TH OF 1% OF US



The Top 0.1% Of The Nation Earn Half Of All Capital Gains



Corporate Profits Are At An All-Time Record Peak And Expected To Grow in 2014

Corporate Profits Are At An All-Time Record Peak And Expected To Grow in 2014


According to data from the General Accountability Office cited by Kleinbard, corporations on average paid 12.6 percent as of 2010.


Expert debunks claim U.S. corporate taxes are too high

 

[Dad2three]

That makes no sense... people are so bad off they need public assistance and you claim public assistance kept them from being poor?
More evidence left wingers are dumber than a sack of rocks.

They assume that being on government assistance is a wonderful state to be in....and not poverty. ...because welfare feels so warm and fuzzy.....to Democraps.

liberal policies have made poverty into something comfortable.

lmaorog


Yep, Cadillac in every hovel right? lol

,

 

[Avatar4321]

You do realize it's impossible for either to keep someone out of poverty when you have to be in poverty before you qualify for it.

The fact that people have either demonstrates that they are in poverty.

 

[francoHFW]

The pubbies must be horrified.
Census data shows Obamacare and welfare kept millions out of poverty

If there was any good news in the census data dump on Wednesday, it was that the US’s welfare safety net programs and Barack Obama’s signature healthcare legislation are doing exactly what they are supposed to.

The supplemental poverty measure data released by the US Census bureau showed that programs like food stamps, refundable tax credits and social security benefits helped keep millions of Americans out of poverty in 2014. Similarly, the data regarding health insurance coverage showed that last year the number of uninsured Americans dropped by 8.8 million.

“In 2014, the percentage of people without health insurance for the entire calendar year was 10.4%, or 33 million people, lower than the rate, 13.3%, and the number of uninsured, 41.8 million, in 2013,” Victoria Velkoff, chief of the social, economic and housing statistics division at the bureau, said on Wednesday. “The decrease in the uninsured rate was 2.9%, or 8.8 million people.”

Americans with full-time jobs were the least likely to be uninsured.

“This is dramatic proof that the Affordable Care Act is a stunning success,” said Ron Pollack, executive director of Families USA. “The historic decrease in the number of uninsured Americans is unmistakably attributable to the Affordable Care Act’s implementation.

“The numbers show that the greatest gains were among moderate-income families, communities of color and young people – the precise groups that most needed help in gaining health insurance. According to the report, households with incomes below $25,000 a year saw their rate of coverage increase by 4.3%, and households between $25,000 and $49,999 saw an increase of 5%. Hispanics, black people and Asians increased coverage rates by about 4%. And the rate of uninsured between ages 26 to 34 went down by 5.5%.”

Hardly. The poverty rate is up under Obama:

Duh, it's been getting worse since Reaganist policy started in 1982. Still going, of course.

 

[francoHFW]

You do realize it's impossible for either to keep someone out of poverty when you have to be in poverty before you qualify for it.

The fact that people have either demonstrates that they are in poverty.

BS, dingbat dupe. Read the damn link. It helped workers more than anyone. And will MORE this year.

 

[Avatar4321]

It didn't keep them out of poverty. Which is my point. They are in poverty or they wouldn't qualify for the programs.

 

[francoHFW]

You do realize it's impossible for either to keep someone out of poverty when you have to be in poverty before you qualify for it.

The fact that people have either demonstrates that they are in poverty.

BS, dingbat dupe. Read the damn link. It helped workers more than anyone. And will MORE this year.

You don't even know what O-Care is, obviously. All levels are in it.

 

[ninja007]

welfare keep millions of blacks voting democrat, poor and dependant on big gov. It also killed hundreds in NO during Katrina as they waited for their welfare checks and SOMEONE else to help/think for them. Lib policies are an absolute disgusting heavy yolk upon the necks of minorities.

 

[Avatar4321]

You do realize it's impossible for either to keep someone out of poverty when you have to be in poverty before you qualify for it.

The fact that people have either demonstrates that they are in poverty.

BS, dingbat dupe. Read the damn link. It helped workers more than anyone. And will MORE this year.

You don't even know what O-Care is, obviously. All levels are in it.

But not all levels get subsidies

 

[francoHFW]

You do realize it's impossible for either to keep someone out of poverty when you have to be in poverty before you qualify for it.

The fact that people have either demonstrates that they are in poverty.

BS, dingbat dupe. Read the damn link. It helped workers more than anyone. And will MORE this year.

You don't even know what O-Care is, obviously. All levels are in it.

But not all levels get subsidies

But do get transparent competition and many benefits and guarantees. And the rich are bloated these days anyway, see OP

 

[francoHFW]

welfare keep millions of blacks voting democrat, poor and dependant on big gov. It also killed hundreds in NO during Katrina as they waited for their welfare checks and SOMEONE else to help/think for them. Lib policies are an absolute disgusting heavy yolk upon the necks of minorities.

What BULLSHYTTE, hater dupe. Your greedy heroes are turning you and your friends into a banana republic. see sig

 

[Claudette]

The pubbies must be horrified.
Census data shows Obamacare and welfare kept millions out of poverty

If there was any good news in the census data dump on Wednesday, it was that the US’s welfare safety net programs and Barack Obama’s signature healthcare legislation are doing exactly what they are supposed to.

The supplemental poverty measure data released by the US Census bureau showed that programs like food stamps, refundable tax credits and social security benefits helped keep millions of Americans out of poverty in 2014. Similarly, the data regarding health insurance coverage showed that last year the number of uninsured Americans dropped by 8.8 million.

“In 2014, the percentage of people without health insurance for the entire calendar year was 10.4%, or 33 million people, lower than the rate, 13.3%, and the number of uninsured, 41.8 million, in 2013,” Victoria Velkoff, chief of the social, economic and housing statistics division at the bureau, said on Wednesday. “The decrease in the uninsured rate was 2.9%, or 8.8 million people.”

Americans with full-time jobs were the least likely to be uninsured.

“This is dramatic proof that the Affordable Care Act is a stunning success,” said Ron Pollack, executive director of Families USA. “The historic decrease in the number of uninsured Americans is unmistakably attributable to the Affordable Care Act’s implementation.

“The numbers show that the greatest gains were among moderate-income families, communities of color and young people – the precise groups that most needed help in gaining health insurance. According to the report, households with incomes below $25,000 a year saw their rate of coverage increase by 4.3%, and households between $25,000 and $49,999 saw an increase of 5%. Hispanics, black people and Asians increased coverage rates by about 4%. And the rate of uninsured between ages 26 to 34 went down by 5.5%.”

Sure at the expense of the rest of the taxpayers. Who the hell do you think provides the money for them idiot. We do. God you are an idiot.

 

[Dad2three]

The pubbies must be horrified.
Census data shows Obamacare and welfare kept millions out of poverty

If there was any good news in the census data dump on Wednesday, it was that the US’s welfare safety net programs and Barack Obama’s signature healthcare legislation are doing exactly what they are supposed to.

The supplemental poverty measure data released by the US Census bureau showed that programs like food stamps, refundable tax credits and social security benefits helped keep millions of Americans out of poverty in 2014. Similarly, the data regarding health insurance coverage showed that last year the number of uninsured Americans dropped by 8.8 million.

“In 2014, the percentage of people without health insurance for the entire calendar year was 10.4%, or 33 million people, lower than the rate, 13.3%, and the number of uninsured, 41.8 million, in 2013,” Victoria Velkoff, chief of the social, economic and housing statistics division at the bureau, said on Wednesday. “The decrease in the uninsured rate was 2.9%, or 8.8 million people.”

Americans with full-time jobs were the least likely to be uninsured.

“This is dramatic proof that the Affordable Care Act is a stunning success,” said Ron Pollack, executive director of Families USA. “The historic decrease in the number of uninsured Americans is unmistakably attributable to the Affordable Care Act’s implementation.

“The numbers show that the greatest gains were among moderate-income families, communities of color and young people – the precise groups that most needed help in gaining health insurance. According to the report, households with incomes below $25,000 a year saw their rate of coverage increase by 4.3%, and households between $25,000 and $49,999 saw an increase of 5%. Hispanics, black people and Asians increased coverage rates by about 4%. And the rate of uninsured between ages 26 to 34 went down by 5.5%.”

Sure at the expense of the rest of the taxpayers. Who the hell do you think provides the money for them idiot. We do. God you are an idiot.

 

[thereisnospoon]

Middle Class Lost In Obama's 'Middle Class Economics'
Economy: After six-plus years of President Obama's big-spending, tax-raising policies, middle-class families have seen their incomes decline and more families have fallen into poverty, Census data show.

The Census Bureau's latest annual report on income and poverty in America shows that there was little to cheer about in 2014.

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Reagan tripled the national debt, obama was handed one of the worst disasters in decades. Jobs are being added rapidly.

Reagan is dead

Obiwan's link destroyed your OP

and

Job numbers are still a negative net

Job numbers negative net? lol

Can't have it both ways. BTW 60% of all US Workers are employed by small business. That is employers of less than 100 people. One other thing. IN spite of your sycophantic feelings toward Obama, there is one certainty, the economy is cyclical. I just is. What goes up MUST come down. And of course the opposite is true.
Deal with it.

WTF? You dumbass, YOU claimed a net job loss, nice dodge dumfuk!


Cyclical? lol

Ahh yes....The insult stage has been reached.
I win. You LOSE