Celebrating Memorial Day with MSNBC

[PoliticalChic]

MSNBC Chris Hayes I'm 'Uncomfortable' Calling Fallen Military 'Heroes' - YouTube

'Tis the nature of the beast....

I try to never miss his show, but I never forget that, attractive and articulate, Hayes is an inveterate Liberal.

They will come up with all sorts of camouflage so as to hide their disdain for the military...



Nor will you catch 'em reciting this:


Then out spoke brave Horatius, the Captain of the Gate:
‘To every man upon this earth Death cometh soon or late.
And how can man die better than facing fearful odds,
For the ashes of his fathers, and the temples of his Gods,
Horatius at the Bridge by Lord Macaulay

 

[Liability]

"I feel uncomfortable about the term hero because it so rhetorically proximate to justification for more war."

Well I'm glad that millions could die on his behalf so that he could feel uncomfortable about honoring their memory.

rhetorically proximate.

The poor fucker is so wrapped up in being an elitist piece of shit, he forgot how to communicate clearly.

MSLSD sucks shit.

 

[mudwhistle]

MSNBC Chris Hayes I'm 'Uncomfortable' Calling Fallen Military 'Heroes' - YouTube

'Tis the nature of the beast....

I try to never miss his show, but I never forget that, attractive and articulate, Hayes is an inveterate Liberal.

They will come up with all sorts of camouflage so as to hide their disdain for the military...



Nor will you catch 'em reciting this:


Then out spoke brave Horatius, the Captain of the Gate:
‘To every man upon this earth Death cometh soon or late.
And how can man die better than facing fearful odds,
For the ashes of his fathers, and the temples of his Gods,
Horatius at the Bridge by Lord Macaulay

But they love drone attacks.......

 

[mudwhistle]

MSNBC Chris Hayes I'm 'Uncomfortable' Calling Fallen Military 'Heroes' - YouTube

'Tis the nature of the beast....

I try to never miss his show, but I never forget that, attractive and articulate, Hayes is an inveterate Liberal.

They will come up with all sorts of camouflage so as to hide their disdain for the military...



Nor will you catch 'em reciting this:


Then out spoke brave Horatius, the Captain of the Gate:
‘To every man upon this earth Death cometh soon or late.
And how can man die better than facing fearful odds,
For the ashes of his fathers, and the temples of his Gods,
Horatius at the Bridge by Lord Macaulay

But they love drone attacks.......

 

[NoNukes]

"I feel uncomfortable about the term hero because it so rhetorically proximate to justification for more war."

Well I'm glad that millions could die on his behalf so that he could feel uncomfortable about honoring their memory.

My father was a highly decorated soldier in WWII, and he certainly did not consider himself a hero. He was appalled by the people that he killed until the day he died.

 

[mudwhistle]

"I feel uncomfortable about the term hero because it so rhetorically proximate to justification for more war."

Well I'm glad that millions could die on his behalf so that he could feel uncomfortable about honoring their memory.

rhetorically proximate.

The poor fucker is so wrapped up in being an elitist piece of shit, he forgot how to communicate clearly.

MSLSD sucks shit.

Bravo

And I thought I was a bit too honest.

 

[mudwhistle]

"I feel uncomfortable about the term hero because it so rhetorically proximate to justification for more war."

Well I'm glad that millions could die on his behalf so that he could feel uncomfortable about honoring their memory.

My father was a highly decorated soldier in WWII, and he certainly did not consider himself a hero. He was appalled by the people that he killed until the day he died.

They usually don't......but everyone else around them usually does....and that's all that matters.

 

[Samson]

First let me say I don't know who the fuck Chris Hayes is, nor do I care.

However I think if you bother to listen to the ONE MINUTE Youtube, it seems clear that he is not being disrespectful, in fact he states that there are indeed War Heros.

His issue is semantics:

Does using the word "Hero" to describe war casulties encourage more war?

The fact is we don't have a word to accurately describe "war casulties," a term that seems much too flippant, and worse, bureaucratic.

The word "hero," IMHO should be reserved for guys that KNEW that death was imminent, yet chose to act regardless...

Maybe Chris would be happy if we invented a term....Megahero?.....Superhero?.....UltraMegaSuperhero?.....to describe such deaths off the battlefield?

 

[mudwhistle]

Only a sick individual enjoys killing human-beings.

I have a problem with killing animals, but if you must do it to survive then what choice do you have.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

"I feel uncomfortable about the term hero because it so rhetorically proximate to justification for more war."

Well I'm glad that millions could die on his behalf so that he could feel uncomfortable about honoring their memory.

My father was a highly decorated soldier in WWII, and he certainly did not consider himself a hero. He was appalled by the people that he killed until the day he died.

And most soldiers would agree. But I have no problem with civilians saying they are. I do have a problem with asswipes making statements that are actually meant to belittle the sacrifice.

 

[mudwhistle]

First let me say I don't know who the fuck Chris Hayes is, nor do I care.

However I think if you bother to listen to the ONE MINUTE Youtube, it seems clear that he is not being disrespectful, in fact he states that there are indeed War Heros.

His issue is semantics:

Does using the word "Hero" to describe war casulties encourage more war?

The fact is we don't have a word to accurately describe "war casulties," a term that seems much too flippant, and worse, bureaucratic.

The word "hero," IMHO should be reserved for guys that KNEW that death was imminent, yet chose to act regardless...

Maybe Chris would be happy if we invented a term....Megahero?.....Superhero?.....UltraMegaSuperhero?.....to describe such deaths off the battlefield?

It's not a good idea to start out a statement with "I don't know".

I think if you've watched this guy a few times you'd understand his motivations.

 

[Sallow]

"I feel uncomfortable about the term hero because it so rhetorically proximate to justification for more war."

Well I'm glad that millions could die on his behalf so that he could feel uncomfortable about honoring their memory.

My father was a highly decorated soldier in WWII, and he certainly did not consider himself a hero. He was appalled by the people that he killed until the day he died.

And most soldiers would agree. But I have no problem with civilians saying they are. I do have a problem with asswipes making statements that are actually meant to belittle the sacrifice.

And that's not what he did.

I have a problem with the timing of the argument..but not the argument itself.

This country has a history of getting involved in completely stupid wars that serve no purpose. And over the long term..actually hurt this country.

Like Vietnam. Like Iraq.

Part and parcel with that..may be because we "glamorize" it.

Hayes, however, should have picked a better time to make that argument. It's low class to do it on Memorial day.

 

[Foxfyre]

First let me say I don't know who the fuck Chris Hayes is, nor do I care.

However I think if you bother to listen to the ONE MINUTE Youtube, it seems clear that he is not being disrespectful, in fact he states that there are indeed War Heros.

His issue is semantics:

Does using the word "Hero" to describe war casulties encourage more war?

The fact is we don't have a word to accurately describe "war casulties," a term that seems much too flippant, and worse, bureaucratic.

The word "hero," IMHO should be reserved for guys that KNEW that death was imminent, yet chose to act regardless...

Maybe Chris would be happy if we invented a term....Megahero?.....Superhero?.....UltraMegaSuperhero?.....to describe such deaths off the battlefield?

It's not a good idea to start out a statement with "I don't know".

I think if you've watched this guy a few times you'd understand his motivations.

Hero is an apt description for men and women who put their lives on the line as part of their routine duty. It applies to Police Officers, Firefighters, Search and Rescue teams, and certainly to our military personnel, any of whom could be sent into a combat zone on any given day. Just being good citizens, accepting our proper responsibility and being accountable for our actions is noble enough. But some go a step beyond and risk all for their fellow human beings. And that is being a hero.

 

[mudwhistle]

My father was a highly decorated soldier in WWII, and he certainly did not consider himself a hero. He was appalled by the people that he killed until the day he died.

And most soldiers would agree. But I have no problem with civilians saying they are. I do have a problem with asswipes making statements that are actually meant to belittle the sacrifice.

And that's not what he did.

I have a problem with the timing of the argument..but not the argument itself.

This country has a history of getting involved in completely stupid wars that serve no purpose. And over the long term..actually hurt this country.

Like Vietnam. Like Iraq.

Part and parcel with that..may be because we "glamorize" it.

Hayes, however, should have picked a better time to make that argument. It's low class to do it on Memorial day.

All wars are stupid.

Sometimes they're a matter of self-defense.

 

[Sallow]

And most soldiers would agree. But I have no problem with civilians saying they are. I do have a problem with asswipes making statements that are actually meant to belittle the sacrifice.

And that's not what he did.

I have a problem with the timing of the argument..but not the argument itself.

This country has a history of getting involved in completely stupid wars that serve no purpose. And over the long term..actually hurt this country.

Like Vietnam. Like Iraq.

Part and parcel with that..may be because we "glamorize" it.

Hayes, however, should have picked a better time to make that argument. It's low class to do it on Memorial day.

All wars are stupid.

Sometimes they're a matter of self-defense.

Holy shit.

I couldn't agree more.

Happy Memorial Day.

 

[Samson]

First let me say I don't know who the fuck Chris Hayes is, nor do I care.

However I think if you bother to listen to the ONE MINUTE Youtube, it seems clear that he is not being disrespectful, in fact he states that there are indeed War Heros.

His issue is semantics:

Does using the word "Hero" to describe war casulties encourage more war?

The fact is we don't have a word to accurately describe "war casulties," a term that seems much too flippant, and worse, bureaucratic.

The word "hero," IMHO should be reserved for guys that KNEW that death was imminent, yet chose to act regardless...

Maybe Chris would be happy if we invented a term....Megahero?.....Superhero?.....UltraMegaSuperhero?.....to describe such deaths off the battlefield?

It's not a good idea to start out a statement with "I don't know".

I think if you've watched this guy a few times you'd understand his motivations.

Regardless the question remains: does calling those that die in battle encourage anyone to die in battle? Or worse, does it encourage anyone to create wars for the purpose of allowing people to die a "glorious" death?

Historically, I think there is evidence that this might have been the case (see almost every British-lead battle during WW I).

 

[Samson]

And most soldiers would agree. But I have no problem with civilians saying they are. I do have a problem with asswipes making statements that are actually meant to belittle the sacrifice.

And that's not what he did.

I have a problem with the timing of the argument..but not the argument itself.

This country has a history of getting involved in completely stupid wars that serve no purpose. And over the long term..actually hurt this country.

Like Vietnam. Like Iraq.

Part and parcel with that..may be because we "glamorize" it.

Hayes, however, should have picked a better time to make that argument. It's low class to do it on Memorial day.

All wars are stupid.

Sometimes they're a matter of self-defense.

Sometimes they're not? Both Vietnam and Iraq were "conflicts" that were a result of the preceived threat they presented to US national security.

 

[mudwhistle]

And that's not what he did.

I have a problem with the timing of the argument..but not the argument itself.

This country has a history of getting involved in completely stupid wars that serve no purpose. And over the long term..actually hurt this country.

Like Vietnam. Like Iraq.

Part and parcel with that..may be because we "glamorize" it.

Hayes, however, should have picked a better time to make that argument. It's low class to do it on Memorial day.

All wars are stupid.

Sometimes they're a matter of self-defense.

Holy shit.

I couldn't agree more.

Happy Memorial Day.

You too.

Just remember......anyone can point out the stupidity of war if they choose to.

 

[mudwhistle]

First let me say I don't know who the fuck Chris Hayes is, nor do I care.

However I think if you bother to listen to the ONE MINUTE Youtube, it seems clear that he is not being disrespectful, in fact he states that there are indeed War Heros.

His issue is semantics:

Does using the word "Hero" to describe war casulties encourage more war?

The fact is we don't have a word to accurately describe "war casulties," a term that seems much too flippant, and worse, bureaucratic.

The word "hero," IMHO should be reserved for guys that KNEW that death was imminent, yet chose to act regardless...

Maybe Chris would be happy if we invented a term....Megahero?.....Superhero?.....UltraMegaSuperhero?.....to describe such deaths off the battlefield?

It's not a good idea to start out a statement with "I don't know".

I think if you've watched this guy a few times you'd understand his motivations.

Regardless the question remains: does calling those that die in battle encourage anyone to die in battle? Or worse, does it encourage anyone to create wars for the purpose of allowing people to die a "glorious" death?

Historically, I think there is evidence that this might have been the case (see almost every British-lead battle during WW I).

Best way to prevent war is be in one and see it first-hand.

 

[mudwhistle]

And that's not what he did.

I have a problem with the timing of the argument..but not the argument itself.

This country has a history of getting involved in completely stupid wars that serve no purpose. And over the long term..actually hurt this country.

Like Vietnam. Like Iraq.

Part and parcel with that..may be because we "glamorize" it.

Hayes, however, should have picked a better time to make that argument. It's low class to do it on Memorial day.

All wars are stupid.

Sometimes they're a matter of self-defense.

Sometimes they're not? Both Vietnam and Iraq were "conflicts" that were a result of the preceived threat they presented to US national security.

Both could have been prevented. But then again nobody can see into the future.

Personally I think in some cases they are necessary, but there are times when good intentions caused them.