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How odd... it's Obama's fault, it is Logan's fault.... blame anyone but those who actually participated in the assault.
Not liberal thinking... not conservative thinking.... just jack shit stupid at it's finest.
I did blame those who actually participated in the assault. They're Obama's new buddies, who are now running Egypt.
If those who participated in the assualt did anything wrong, it was wrong by OUR standards, to their standards in that country they were perfectly within their rights if not obligations. That's what makes blaming the perpetrators so hard. If they were HERE, no contest, they were wrong and should be punished. But they weren't here. They were in their own country where they make the laws. The laws put logan clearly in the wrong. The punishment for women being in the wrong is immediate.
Mere weeks after Lara Logan was assaulted Egyptian women were stripped in the streets then beaten because they were naked and the perpetrators STILL did nothing wrong according to their laws.
The perpetrators did nothing wrong, it's the CULTURE stupid!
blaming crimes on victims is what insane people do
You're blaming the victim?If anyone could be said to be "asking for it" this woman did.
wtf?? What kind of an asshole thing is that to say?
It's true! That's only because I give her some credit for not being dumb as a fence post.
This was an incredibly violent and volatile situation, in a culture that does not extend basic humanity toward women, in a country in which women have no rights, among a people who are at war with western culture. Walk into that and you are asking for whatever you get. Plain and simple.
Logan may have thought that she was in some American type riot where laughing looters would be trying to grab some camera face time and throw gang signs for the public. She was mistaken.
I did blame those who actually participated in the assault. They're Obama's new buddies, who are now running Egypt.
If those who participated in the assualt did anything wrong, it was wrong by OUR standards, to their standards in that country they were perfectly within their rights if not obligations. That's what makes blaming the perpetrators so hard. If they were HERE, no contest, they were wrong and should be punished. But they weren't here. They were in their own country where they make the laws. The laws put logan clearly in the wrong. The punishment for women being in the wrong is immediate.
Mere weeks after Lara Logan was assaulted Egyptian women were stripped in the streets then beaten because they were naked and the perpetrators STILL did nothing wrong according to their laws.
The perpetrators did nothing wrong, it's the CULTURE stupid!
Oh i agree it is their culture. But this woman still didn't do anything wrong. I have to disagree with you on that one.
You're blaming the victim?wtf?? What kind of an asshole thing is that to say?
It's true! That's only because I give her some credit for not being dumb as a fence post.
This was an incredibly violent and volatile situation, in a culture that does not extend basic humanity toward women, in a country in which women have no rights, among a people who are at war with western culture. Walk into that and you are asking for whatever you get. Plain and simple.
Logan may have thought that she was in some American type riot where laughing looters would be trying to grab some camera face time and throw gang signs for the public. She was mistaken.
Stupid and obtuse.
You are an idiot of the first order! The rapists used rape because it is traumatizing, not because your false and incredibly stupid ideas of culture.How odd... it's Obama's fault, it is Logan's fault.... blame anyone but those who actually participated in the assault.
Not liberal thinking... not conservative thinking.... just jack shit stupid at it's finest.
I did blame those who actually participated in the assault. They're Obama's new buddies, who are now running Egypt.
If those who participated in the assualt did anything wrong, it was wrong by OUR standards, to their standards in that country they were perfectly within their rights if not obligations. That's what makes blaming the perpetrators so hard. If they were HERE, no contest, they were wrong and should be punished. But they weren't here. They were in their own country where they make the laws. The laws put logan clearly in the wrong. The punishment for women being in the wrong is immediate.
Mere weeks after Lara Logan was assaulted Egyptian women were stripped in the streets then beaten because they were naked and the perpetrators STILL did nothing wrong according to their laws.
The perpetrators did nothing wrong, it's the CULTURE stupid!
If those who participated in the assualt did anything wrong, it was wrong by OUR standards, to their standards in that country they were perfectly within their rights if not obligations. That's what makes blaming the perpetrators so hard. If they were HERE, no contest, they were wrong and should be punished. But they weren't here. They were in their own country where they make the laws. The laws put logan clearly in the wrong. The punishment for women being in the wrong is immediate.
Mere weeks after Lara Logan was assaulted Egyptian women were stripped in the streets then beaten because they were naked and the perpetrators STILL did nothing wrong according to their laws.
The perpetrators did nothing wrong, it's the CULTURE stupid!
Oh i agree it is their culture. But this woman still didn't do anything wrong. I have to disagree with you on that one.
For one thing, she was blonde, obviously western appearing and immediately called a Jew. She was working. She was certainly a journalist. Her existence in that place and time was wrong. What wrong did the Egyptian women do when they were stripped and beaten? Nothing.
The primary wrong done was by whoever sent her there in the first place. That was either arrogance or stupidity. If no one else, they should have known that being female on the streets is dangerous under any circumstances. In those circumstances it became unforgiveable. Yet, the foolish Americans think they can just demand that other cultures change to suit them.
the word despicable comes to mind, and i'm not talking about the rapists.
the word despicable comes to mind, and i'm not talking about the rapists.
and yet he's still posting here.
go figure.
We have military bases in the middle east. When American women leave those bases and go into the towns and cities, they must cover themselves exactly as the law is applied to local women. They may not have to wear burkas, but they must wear gloves that cover their hands and wrists. They must wear headscarves. Not because they would get a ticket and notice to appear, but because they would be beaten, on the spot, maybe to death.
Then we have Lara Logan, who walks into the middle of a fight. When she's called a Jew, her answer is a sprightly "No I'm not. How about a few words to the folks back in the states."
When a person, man or woman, enters a zone like Tahrir square on fight night, they have no complaints when they get attacked. It should be expected. A woman should expect that attack to be a sexual assualt. That's what they do to women.
This thread certainly has turned into a Showcase on what two posters are like and how they view women, victims, responsibility, rape, and the Middle East......hasn't it?