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Since 98-percent of the sexual active Catholic women us birth control, I think the only real opposition are the bishops and anti-Obama forces.they saw thru it naturally....and the actual entity that picks up the check, since when has that mattered to the gov.?...we all know who that will be in the end...
* FEBRUARY 11, 2012, 1:17 P.M. ET
Catholic Bishops Oppose Compromise on Birth-Control Insurance
Catholic bishops said Friday night that they would not support the Obama administration's proposed compromise on a controversial rule that requires most employers to fully cover contraception in their workers' health plans.
The U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops, which had led opposition to the regulation, issued a statement saying that they didn't believe their concerns were addressed by a new policy offered by President Barack Obama on Friday morning to allow religious employers who object to the use of birth control to turn over responsibility for covering it to insurance companies.
Under the new policy, religious employers that don't want to offer contraception could exclude it from their policies. Insurance companies instead would be required to provide access to contraception for plan participants who wanted it, without explicitly charging either the religious employer or worker.
The shift is intended to ensure that women working at religious hospitals, schools and charities who want to use contraception can obtain it in the same way as women who work for secular employers. It also means the cost of providing the coverage for those women is likely to be spread across all policyholders by insurers.
The bishops had earlier expressed cautious optimism about the announcement, saying that it was "a first step in the right direction" but that they would have to study it.
In their later statement, they said they still had "serious moral concerns," noting that the proposal didn't contain provisions for religious employers who self-insure, meaning the employer takes on the underlying risk of covering employees' health care.
The bishops also said that the current structure of the proposal meant that if an employee and insurer agreed to add contraception coverage to a health plan, it would still be financed in the same way as the rest of the coverage offered by the employer.
"These changes require careful moral analysis, and moreover, appear subject to some measure of change. But we note at the outset that the lack of clear protection... is unacceptable and must be corrected," the statement said.
more at-
Catholic Bishops Oppose Obama Compromise on Birth-Control Insurance - WSJ.com
According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), 99 percent of sexually-active women use birth control, including 98-percent of Catholic women.
Only 2% of Catholic women rely on natural family
planning; even among Catholic women who attend
church once a month or more, only 2% rely on this
method (not shown). Sixty-eight percent of Catholic
women use highly effective methods: sterilization
(32%, including 24% using female sterilization,) the
pill or another hormonal method (31%) and the IUD
(5%).
http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/Religion-and-Contraceptive-Use.pdf
You know, this really isn't about the Catholic church. It's about the first amendment. You either support it or you make excuses to break it......
Can't get much simpler than that.....
The Federal Government said poligamy was illegal. Why was that ok?
You know, this really isn't about the Catholic church. It's about the first amendment. You either support it or you make excuses to break it......
Can't get much simpler than that.....
The Federal Government said poligamy was illegal. Why was that ok?
I never said it was. Never looked into it either. Good subject for another thread.......
Since 98-percent of the sexual active Catholic women us birth control, I think the only real opposition are the bishops and anti-Obama forces.they saw thru it naturally....and the actual entity that picks up the check, since when has that mattered to the gov.?...we all know who that will be in the end...
* FEBRUARY 11, 2012, 1:17 P.M. ET
Catholic Bishops Oppose Compromise on Birth-Control Insurance
Catholic bishops said Friday night that they would not support the Obama administration's proposed compromise on a controversial rule that requires most employers to fully cover contraception in their workers' health plans.
The U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops, which had led opposition to the regulation, issued a statement saying that they didn't believe their concerns were addressed by a new policy offered by President Barack Obama on Friday morning to allow religious employers who object to the use of birth control to turn over responsibility for covering it to insurance companies.
Under the new policy, religious employers that don't want to offer contraception could exclude it from their policies. Insurance companies instead would be required to provide access to contraception for plan participants who wanted it, without explicitly charging either the religious employer or worker.
The shift is intended to ensure that women working at religious hospitals, schools and charities who want to use contraception can obtain it in the same way as women who work for secular employers. It also means the cost of providing the coverage for those women is likely to be spread across all policyholders by insurers.
The bishops had earlier expressed cautious optimism about the announcement, saying that it was "a first step in the right direction" but that they would have to study it.
In their later statement, they said they still had "serious moral concerns," noting that the proposal didn't contain provisions for religious employers who self-insure, meaning the employer takes on the underlying risk of covering employees' health care.
The bishops also said that the current structure of the proposal meant that if an employee and insurer agreed to add contraception coverage to a health plan, it would still be financed in the same way as the rest of the coverage offered by the employer.
"These changes require careful moral analysis, and moreover, appear subject to some measure of change. But we note at the outset that the lack of clear protection... is unacceptable and must be corrected," the statement said.
more at-
Catholic Bishops Oppose Obama Compromise on Birth-Control Insurance - WSJ.com
According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), 99 percent of sexually-active women use birth control, including 98-percent of Catholic women.
Only 2% of Catholic women rely on natural family
planning; even among Catholic women who attend
church once a month or more, only 2% rely on this
method (not shown). Sixty-eight percent of Catholic
women use highly effective methods: sterilization
(32%, including 24% using female sterilization,) the
pill or another hormonal method (31%) and the IUD
(5%).
http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/Religion-and-Contraceptive-Use.pdf
The Federal Government said poligamy was illegal. Why was that ok?
I never said it was. Never looked into it either. Good subject for another thread.......
Well you seem to think this is a first amendment issue. If the government can pass a law saying poligamy is illegal, they certainly can pass a law that says healthcare providers must provide birth control if they are going to be in the business of providing healthcare. They can't let their religion get in the way of other people's healthcare.
Or is it that the insurance companies just don't want to offer the service that costs $800 per woman each year? My guess is that this is a money thing, not constitutional at all. Sure you could make an argument, but you would lose.
But we didn't want to offend Catholics because they do a lot of good with those hospitals and we want their votes so instead we said the insurance companies must provide it. So now it is not a constitutional issue. The Catholic organizations are obsolved of having anything to do with providing rubbers.
Since 98-percent of the sexual active Catholic women us birth control, I think the only real opposition are the bishops and anti-Obama forces.they saw thru it naturally....and the actual entity that picks up the check, since when has that mattered to the gov.?...we all know who that will be in the end...
* FEBRUARY 11, 2012, 1:17 P.M. ET
Catholic Bishops Oppose Compromise on Birth-Control Insurance
Catholic bishops said Friday night that they would not support the Obama administration's proposed compromise on a controversial rule that requires most employers to fully cover contraception in their workers' health plans.
The U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops, which had led opposition to the regulation, issued a statement saying that they didn't believe their concerns were addressed by a new policy offered by President Barack Obama on Friday morning to allow religious employers who object to the use of birth control to turn over responsibility for covering it to insurance companies.
Under the new policy, religious employers that don't want to offer contraception could exclude it from their policies. Insurance companies instead would be required to provide access to contraception for plan participants who wanted it, without explicitly charging either the religious employer or worker.
The shift is intended to ensure that women working at religious hospitals, schools and charities who want to use contraception can obtain it in the same way as women who work for secular employers. It also means the cost of providing the coverage for those women is likely to be spread across all policyholders by insurers.
The bishops had earlier expressed cautious optimism about the announcement, saying that it was "a first step in the right direction" but that they would have to study it.
In their later statement, they said they still had "serious moral concerns," noting that the proposal didn't contain provisions for religious employers who self-insure, meaning the employer takes on the underlying risk of covering employees' health care.
The bishops also said that the current structure of the proposal meant that if an employee and insurer agreed to add contraception coverage to a health plan, it would still be financed in the same way as the rest of the coverage offered by the employer.
"These changes require careful moral analysis, and moreover, appear subject to some measure of change. But we note at the outset that the lack of clear protection... is unacceptable and must be corrected," the statement said.
more at-
Catholic Bishops Oppose Obama Compromise on Birth-Control Insurance - WSJ.com
According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), 99 percent of sexually-active women use birth control, including 98-percent of Catholic women.
Only 2% of Catholic women rely on natural family
planning; even among Catholic women who attend
church once a month or more, only 2% rely on this
method (not shown). Sixty-eight percent of Catholic
women use highly effective methods: sterilization
(32%, including 24% using female sterilization,) the
pill or another hormonal method (31%) and the IUD
(5%).
http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/Religion-and-Contraceptive-Use.pdf
Since 98-percent of the sexual active Catholic women us birth control, I think the only real opposition are the bishops and anti-Obama forces.they saw thru it naturally....and the actual entity that picks up the check, since when has that mattered to the gov.?...we all know who that will be in the end...
* FEBRUARY 11, 2012, 1:17 P.M. ET
Catholic Bishops Oppose Compromise on Birth-Control Insurance
Catholic bishops said Friday night that they would not support the Obama administration's proposed compromise on a controversial rule that requires most employers to fully cover contraception in their workers' health plans.
The U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops, which had led opposition to the regulation, issued a statement saying that they didn't believe their concerns were addressed by a new policy offered by President Barack Obama on Friday morning to allow religious employers who object to the use of birth control to turn over responsibility for covering it to insurance companies.
Under the new policy, religious employers that don't want to offer contraception could exclude it from their policies. Insurance companies instead would be required to provide access to contraception for plan participants who wanted it, without explicitly charging either the religious employer or worker.
The shift is intended to ensure that women working at religious hospitals, schools and charities who want to use contraception can obtain it in the same way as women who work for secular employers. It also means the cost of providing the coverage for those women is likely to be spread across all policyholders by insurers.
The bishops had earlier expressed cautious optimism about the announcement, saying that it was "a first step in the right direction" but that they would have to study it.
In their later statement, they said they still had "serious moral concerns," noting that the proposal didn't contain provisions for religious employers who self-insure, meaning the employer takes on the underlying risk of covering employees' health care.
The bishops also said that the current structure of the proposal meant that if an employee and insurer agreed to add contraception coverage to a health plan, it would still be financed in the same way as the rest of the coverage offered by the employer.
"These changes require careful moral analysis, and moreover, appear subject to some measure of change. But we note at the outset that the lack of clear protection... is unacceptable and must be corrected," the statement said.
more at-
Catholic Bishops Oppose Obama Compromise on Birth-Control Insurance - WSJ.com
According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), 99 percent of sexually-active women use birth control, including 98-percent of Catholic women.
Only 2% of Catholic women rely on natural family
planning; even among Catholic women who attend
church once a month or more, only 2% rely on this
method (not shown). Sixty-eight percent of Catholic
women use highly effective methods: sterilization
(32%, including 24% using female sterilization,) the
pill or another hormonal method (31%) and the IUD
(5%).
http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/Religion-and-Contraceptive-Use.pdf
I fail to see the relevance of your post.
Since 98-percent of the sexual active Catholic women us birth control, I think the only real opposition are the bishops and anti-Obama forces.they saw thru it naturally....and the actual entity that picks up the check, since when has that mattered to the gov.?...we all know who that will be in the end...
* FEBRUARY 11, 2012, 1:17 P.M. ET
Catholic Bishops Oppose Compromise on Birth-Control Insurance
Catholic bishops said Friday night that they would not support the Obama administration's proposed compromise on a controversial rule that requires most employers to fully cover contraception in their workers' health plans.
The U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops, which had led opposition to the regulation, issued a statement saying that they didn't believe their concerns were addressed by a new policy offered by President Barack Obama on Friday morning to allow religious employers who object to the use of birth control to turn over responsibility for covering it to insurance companies.
Under the new policy, religious employers that don't want to offer contraception could exclude it from their policies. Insurance companies instead would be required to provide access to contraception for plan participants who wanted it, without explicitly charging either the religious employer or worker.
The shift is intended to ensure that women working at religious hospitals, schools and charities who want to use contraception can obtain it in the same way as women who work for secular employers. It also means the cost of providing the coverage for those women is likely to be spread across all policyholders by insurers.
The bishops had earlier expressed cautious optimism about the announcement, saying that it was "a first step in the right direction" but that they would have to study it.
In their later statement, they said they still had "serious moral concerns," noting that the proposal didn't contain provisions for religious employers who self-insure, meaning the employer takes on the underlying risk of covering employees' health care.
The bishops also said that the current structure of the proposal meant that if an employee and insurer agreed to add contraception coverage to a health plan, it would still be financed in the same way as the rest of the coverage offered by the employer.
"These changes require careful moral analysis, and moreover, appear subject to some measure of change. But we note at the outset that the lack of clear protection... is unacceptable and must be corrected," the statement said.
more at-
Catholic Bishops Oppose Obama Compromise on Birth-Control Insurance - WSJ.com
According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), 99 percent of sexually-active women use birth control, including 98-percent of Catholic women.
Only 2% of Catholic women rely on natural family
planning; even among Catholic women who attend
church once a month or more, only 2% rely on this
method (not shown). Sixty-eight percent of Catholic
women use highly effective methods: sterilization
(32%, including 24% using female sterilization,) the
pill or another hormonal method (31%) and the IUD
(5%).
http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/Religion-and-Contraceptive-Use.pdf
I fail to see the relevance of your post.
Thread ain't about me.
You suck the air outta the room just like Palin but what you gonna do 
Thread ain't about me.
The threads are ALWAYS about you CG
According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), 99 percent of sexually-active women use birth control, including 98-percent of Catholic women.
Only 2% of Catholic women rely on natural family
planning; even among Catholic women who attend
church once a month or more, only 2% rely on this
method (not shown). Sixty-eight percent of Catholic
women use highly effective methods: sterilization
(32%, including 24% using female sterilization,) the
pill or another hormonal method (31%) and the IUD
(5%).
http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/Religion-and-Contraceptive-Use.pdf
Thread ain't about me.
The threads are ALWAYS about you CG
If you struggle to deal with your intellectual superior, you might want to try the 'ignore' feature provided by the board. Just an idea.
I aint givin that up. The threads are ALWAYS about you CG
If you struggle to deal with your intellectual superior, you might want to try the 'ignore' feature provided by the board. Just an idea.
I'm always assured to get a good belly-laugh from reading your oh-so-serious posts
Thread ain't about me.
The threads are ALWAYS about you CG
If you struggle to deal with your intellectual superior, you might want to try the 'ignore' feature provided by the board. Just an idea.
Seems they need to clean up their own backyard and let contraceptives prevent abortions.
Seems they need to clean up their own backyard and let contraceptives prevent abortions.
You'd think that they'd approve of birth control on those grounds, as it WOULD prevent abortions.
But with these radical "personhood" idiots who say that a zygote is a human, what else do you expect?
The threads are ALWAYS about you CG
If you struggle to deal with your intellectual superior, you might want to try the 'ignore' feature provided by the board. Just an idea.
A smart person doesn't have to sell it as hard as you do. Billy Mayes couldn't sell some of the crap you try to pawn off as "intellectual".
Catholic Bishops Oppose Compromise on Birth-Control
Christians have the biggest and longest running scam in history...why on earth would they want to compromise about anything?
