Let's be honest here, Derp...if Hillary and her minions at the DNC weren't corrupt...there wouldn't have been anything for a hacker to leak!
So the ends justify the means? Well, that's a suspect argument. The point isn't what was hacked, the point was that Trump colluded with Russia to hack.
This concept that you progressives seem to hold that there is a finite amount of wealth and because some other guy has a whole bunch of it that means there isn't enough to go around for everyone else is an amusing notion!
So here's the problem with you...you have no economic case to make in favor of this stupid policy. Why? Because the economics contradict your magical thinking. So rather than just call it for what it is, bad policy, you desperately try to make this some kind of emotional argument because emotions are all you have. Not facts. Not evidence. Not proof. Instead, you have excuses.
The Democratic Party has been slowly eroding Middle Class wealth by taxing them into a lower class for the past thirty years yet you wonder why there's a huge income gap?
So here's an example of a Google translator run amok. You see, Oldstyle here is pretending to be an American in order to employ Russian Active Measures in order to undermine confidence in western democracy. This "question" of yours makes no sense, is wrong on its face, and is completely devoid of facts since it was Conservatives who are the ones who have cut taxes. You can't tax someone into a lower class. Your Russian Active Measures need work.
Here's a radical concept...instead of trying to figure out some way to tax the super rich into paying for your liberal Utopia (which they are NEVER going to allow to happen!) how about you concentrate on allowing the Middle Class enough money so that they can grow their own businesses or personal wealth instead of supporting a bloated and inefficient Federal Government?
We cut taxes in 2001. Conservatives promised it would lead to prosperity. It didn't. So the underlying ideology behind the policy is flawed, making the entire policy flawed. And if the entire policy is flawed, what do you have? Nothing. If that policy is flawed, that means it's likely other policies foisted on us by Conservatives are flawed. Come to think of it, there have been no Conservative policy accomplishments from the last 37 years.
When has one shred of evidence ever been produced that Donald Trump "colluded" with Russia to hack anyone, Derp! You make that claim and it's total fiction! Show me any proof at all that Trump worked with the Russian to hack ANYONE! You've made that charge...NOW BACK IT UP!
Did Donald Trump GLEEFULLY use the information that was hacked? Oh yeah, he did and anyone that thinks Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama or ANY OTHER politician wouldn't have done the same thing is woefully naive!
The Russians were being wiretapped all along. They have Trump surrogates on recording with not only the Russian ambassador but with Russian intelligence agents also. " More information came in to U.S. hands from members of the “Five Eyes” alliance that includes the U.S., the U.K., Canada, Australia and New Zealand."
British spies were first to spot Trump team's links with Russia
So where are we so far:
1. CLEVELAND during the RNC Convention: July 2016 Trump advisers admit to meeting, including with Russian ambassador--this includes Carter Page who we recently found out had a FISA warrant issued on him. This only (after Jeff Sessions was accused of lying under oath to congress.)
More Trump advisers disclose meeting with Russia's ambassador - CNNPolitics.comAnother national security adviser to the Trump campaign, J.D. Gordon, also disclosed Thursday that he had met with Kislyak, this time during the Republican National Convention in Cleveland in July. That meeting was first reported by USA Today. Gordon had advocated for language in the GOP platform that the Ukrainians not be armed in their battle against pro-Russian separatists, an effort was ultimately successful. But Gordon says he was simply advocating what Trump himself had expressed -- that he did not wish to see major war break out over the situation in Ukraine.
2. John McCain wants to know what that clause was put in the platform:
3. We know that the Trump administration (5 times) denied any contact with Russians during the campaign season.
Analysis | 5 times Donald Trump’s team denied contact with Russia
And the biggest denier of all was Donald Trump
4. Jeff Sessions accused of lying under oath during his confirmation hearing. According to a source it's not unusual for member on the armed service committee to meet with Foreign ambassadors, but none of the other 13 on this committee had met with the Russian ambassador, only Sessions did twice during the campaign season.Sessions also filled out a questionaire prior to the confirmation hearing and stated that he had no contact with any Russians and signed it. Sessions then recuses himself from the Russian investigation. He has refused to go back to congress to answer more questions, under oath.
Sessions recuses himself from Russia investigations - CNNPolitics.com
Jeff Sessions spoke twice with Russian envoy during presidential campaign: Department of JusticeWhen he was asked in his confirmation hearing what he would do if there was evidence anyone associated with Donald Trump’s presidential campaign had communicated with the Russians, Sessions replied that he wasn’t aware of any such “activities,” and added, “I did not have communications with the Russians.” A questionnaire he filled out for the committee also asked whether he had had contact with the Russians, to which Sessions, according to the Post, wrote, “No.”
5. General Flynn also lied to the FBI. Stating he did not have a conversation with the Russian Ambassador regarding the new sanctions that Obama was imposing on Russia for hacking into the election. Obviously the conversation was wiretapped. Flynn gone. Recently we learned that General Flynn was also a paid lobbyist for Turkey receiving over 500K for his services, and while also attention National Security briefings. Flynn is now asking for immunity for his testimony.
Flynn was paid to lobby for Turkey while attending Trump intel briefings: report
Flynn reportedly lied to FBI about sanctions talk with Russian envoy
Graham: Flynn asking for immunity ‘is a bit bizarre’
6. Then this comes out:
CNN confirms it
Trump aides were in constant touch with senior Russian officials during campaign - CNNPolitics.com
7. Devin Nunes is booted off the chair of the House Intelligence Committee--for running into Trump's office to inform him of what new evidence was showing up. He apolgized to the committee and was booted. Comey cancelled the meeting (behind closed doors) that Nunes had wanted.
Nunes apologizes to House Intel Committee, member says - CNNPolitics.comNunes, a member of the Trump's transition team executive committee, set off a stunning new political controversy Wednesday when he headed to the White House to personally brief President Donald Trump on the revelations. Despite being advised against doing so, sources said Nunes met with Republican members of the Intelligence Committee before his news conference, but did not share information with the Democrats on the committee.
House intel committee: Partisan split over canceled open hearing - CNNPolitics.comNunes also announced that the committee is bringing in FBI Director James Comey and National Security Agency Director Mike Rogers for a second briefing, this time behind closed doors so that they can provide more information. The committee is also delaying its March 28 hearing, a decision infuriating Democrats on the committee. "Chairman just cancelled open Intelligence Committee hearing with (former Director of National Intelligence James) Clapper, (former CIA Director John) Brennan and (former deputy Attorney General Sally) Yates in attempt to choke off public info," Rep. Adam Schiff, the top Democrat on the committee tweeted moment before going to speak to the press Friday morning.
8. Then Adam Schiff cochair of the House intelligence committee had this to say:
And I'll leave you with one comment that FBI Director Comey stated a few weeks ago while under Senate Testimony. While he was reluctant to answer any specific questions regarding his investigation, he should have caught everyone's ear with this one comment. "It's as like they didn't even care if they got caught." That can only mean one thing. They've been caught.
Collusion with a foreign adversary to interfere into an American election is TREASON.
What's laughable to me, Oreo...is how you folks on the left keep trotting out "reports" from CNN as PROOF that Trump colluded with Russia! CNN was one of the parties that actually DID "collude" with Hillary Clinton to interfere with an American election when Donna Brazille gave Clinton questions that would be asked by CNN in a Presidential debate! Citing them as proof that Donald Trump did anything borders on farce!
There are Fox News video's in that news feed that you apparently don't want to watch--LOL
This is an enormous problem for this country today. We have people like you that are wholly underinformed & misinformed because they insist on living in a right wing media bubble--where information is regurgitated by a right wing talk show host and spoon fed back to them. Glued together with half truths and enough conspiracy theories to fill the capital building from floor to ceiling. IOW--the news you want to hear programs. Then anything you don't want to read or hear--then defaults to your brain as "fake" news. And like well trained chimpanzees--you have been trained to do that by FOX News and right wing talk show hosts.
This Russian connection and scandal isn't going away.
If Republicans can do 8 investigatiions into Benghazi--it's not hard to imagine what Democrats will do with Treason, Obstruction & Lies when they take over in 2018. You'll also get a great education on what the Emoluments clause in the Constitution is all about.
The Emoluments Clause: Its text, meaning, and application to Donald J. Trump | Brookings Institution
Republicans have two options--1. Remove Trump from office as soon possible to save their honor, or 2. Go down with him in 2018--2020 & beyond.
Electing Trump was the most powerful weapon you could have given Democrats. They are going to ride this one to hell and back.
Only one problem with your description of who I am, Oreo...I don't watch television for my news. I read three papers pretty much on a daily basis...The Wall Street Journal, USA Today and The Boston Globe...two of which are lean left. So it's obvious that I'm not afraid of hearing another viewpoint!
You on the other hand appear to glean the majority of your information from CNN.
What's amusing is that the very same "news organization" that went out of its way to fix the Democratic primaries is now very concerned with election "tampering"! I guess it's OK for Donna Brazille to collude with the Clinton camp but Trump using information that was leaked by the Russians...information that was 100% factual by the way...is somehow a danger to our democracy?