Can Trump end NAFTA on his own?

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    I read nothing about this new agreement with Mexico ending steel tariffs.

    I have news for you Trumpettes.

    We live in a GLOBAL economy.

    You fucking idiots want to corner the market with 325 million people while alienating a 6 billion global market place.

    How fucking stupid is that?
     
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    Who will learn anything from a dumbass like you? Have you been right about anything?
     
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    Congress ratified NAFTA.

    SEC. 101. APPROVAL AND ENTRY INTO FORCE OF THE NORTH AMERICAN FREE
    TRADE AGREEMENT.
    (a) Approval of Agreement and Statement of Administrative Action.--
    Pursuant to section 1103 of the Omnibus Trade and Competitiveness Act of
    1988 (19 U.S.C. 2903) and section 151 of the Trade Act of 1974 (19
    U.S.C. 2191), the Congress approves--
    (1) the North American Free Trade Agreement entered into on
    December 17, 1992, with the Governments of Canada and Mexico and
    submitted to the Congress on November 4, 1993;
     
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    NAFTA was ratified by Congress.

    There is nothing stopping Trump from negotiating a new agreement and having that ratified by Congress as well.
     
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    my2¢ So it goes.

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    According to the article you linked to the Supreme Court ruling concerning Carter and Taiwan, "In his concurring opinion, supported by several justices, Chief Justice William Rehnquist said the question was political, not subject to judicial review."

    “There is no political necessity to keep Canada in the new NAFTA deal. If we don’t make a fair deal for the U.S. after decades of abuse, Canada will be out,” Trump said on Twitter.

    Thus my only conclusion about Trump unilaterally ending NAFTA comes down to that idiom about opening up a can of worms.
     
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    Use whatever brain cells you've got left and figure it out. If we have a new agreement, then we don't have NAFTA. We have a bi-lateral deal with Mexico.
     
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    if the President is not following the law regarding fast track, which I DO NOT believe he is.... then Congress can strip him, of the power THEY GAVE HIM, that is constitutionally congress's.


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    The Constitution gives Congress exclusive authority to set tariffs and enact other legislation governing international trade. The President has the Constitutional authority to negotiate international agreements. If the President negotiates a trade agreement that requires changes in U.S. tariffs or in other domestic laws, that trade agreement's implementing legislationmust be submitted to Congress -- or the President must have Congress' advance approval of such changes.
    Fast track is an expedited procedure for Congressional consideration of trade agreements. It requires Congress to vote on an agreement without reopening any of its provisions, while retaining the ultimate power of voting it up or down. The three essential features of any fast track authority are:

    (1) extensive consultations and coordination with Congress throughout the process;

    (2) a vote on implementing legislation within a fixed period of time; and

    (3) an up or down vote, with no amendments.
    Ultimately, fast track gives the President credibility to negotiate tough trade deals, while ensuring Congress a central role before, during and after negotiations.
    The authority puts America in a strong position to negotiate major trade agreements and maintains a partnership between the President and Congress that has worked for more than 20 years.


    What is Fast Track
     
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    RealDave, regarding your question, "can Trump end NAFTA on his own?", the short answer is yes.
     
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    NAFTA is alive & well. It has not been ended.

    The supposed"New" agreement is not yet finalized. It just made a couple of changes to NAFTA
     
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    NAFTA WAS NOT RATIFIED BY CONGRESS.
     

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