Can Trump end NAFTA on his own?

[RealDave]

NAFTA was negotiated & signed by George HW Bush.

It did not have the votes to be ratified although it was support by more Republicans than Democrats,

So the ideas of NAFTA were written into a bill & passed Congress & was signed into law.

A President can not just change the law unless it states so in that law.

So can Trump end NAFTA without Congressional approval?

Does Trump know this?

 

[Meathead]

Of course he can, and he did.

 

[BluesLegend]

Of course he can, and he did.

Trump is the man, good job Mr. President

 

[Rambunctious]

NAFTA was negotiated & signed by George HW Bush.

It did not have the votes to be ratified although it was support by more Republicans than Democrats,

So the ideas of NAFTA were written into a bill & passed Congress & was signed into law.

A President can not just change the law unless it states so in that law.

So can Trump end NAFTA without Congressional approval?

Does Trump know this?

For your information....

The NAFTA bill passed the Senate on November 20, 1993, 61–38. Senate supporters were 34 Republicans and 27 Democrats. Clinton signed it into law on December 8, 1993; the agreement went into effect on January 1, 1994. Clinton, while signing the NAFTA bill, stated that "NAFTA means jobs.

He lied just like Obama did about Obamacare....

 

[Rambunctious]

NAFTA was negotiated & signed by George HW Bush

Like I said before...turn off CNN...they are lying to you....

 

[caddo kid]

NAFTA was negotiated & signed by George HW Bush.

It did not have the votes to be ratified although it was support by more Republicans than Democrats,

So the ideas of NAFTA were written into a bill & passed Congress & was signed into law.

A President can not just change the law unless it states so in that law.

So can Trump end NAFTA without Congressional approval?

Does Trump know this?

Trump could not actually, "end NAFTA" but he could withdraw US participation, which in effect would void any US participation with the agreement.
If the US removes itself from NAFTA the US would have much less access to their biggest export markets.
Why would any nation make a choice to lose access to it's largest export markets?
Many within the US business & agriculture communities view the potential for US withdrawal from NAFTA as a net negative.

 

[Meathead]

Trump could not actually, "end NAFTA" but he could withdraw US participation, which in effect would void any US participation with the agreement.
If the US removes itself from NAFTA the US would have much less access to their biggest export markets. Many within the US business & agriculture communities view the potential for US withdrawal from NAFTA as a net negative.

Don't be such a disingenuous hack. Mexico and Canada would have less access to American markets which form a much larger share of their exports. Businessess in both countries are potentially more butt hurt than you FFS.

 

[Thinker101]

NAFTA was negotiated & signed by George HW Bush.

It did not have the votes to be ratified although it was support by more Republicans than Democrats,

So the ideas of NAFTA were written into a bill & passed Congress & was signed into law.

A President can not just change the law unless it states so in that law.

So can Trump end NAFTA without Congressional approval?

Does Trump know this?

NAFTA was signed by Bill Clinton....dumbass.

 

[caddo kid]

Trump could not actually, "end NAFTA" but he could withdraw US participation, which in effect would void any US participation with the agreement.
If the US removes itself from NAFTA the US would have much less access to their biggest export markets. Many within the US business & agriculture communities view the potential for US withdrawal from NAFTA as a net negative.

Don't be such a disingenuous hack. Mexico and Canada would have less access to American markets which form a much larger share of their exports. Businessess in both countries are potentially more butt hurt than you FFS.

Well, for starters I am not, "a disingenuous hack" nor am I, "butt hurt" but thanks for demonstrating for all here to see that you are surly a jackass.

 

[Taz]

Trump could not actually, "end NAFTA" but he could withdraw US participation, which in effect would void any US participation with the agreement.
If the US removes itself from NAFTA the US would have much less access to their biggest export markets. Many within the US business & agriculture communities view the potential for US withdrawal from NAFTA as a net negative.

Don't be such a disingenuous hack. Mexico and Canada would have less access to American markets which form a much larger share of their exports. Businessess in both countries are potentially more butt hurt than you FFS.

It's the consumers that will be hit with higher prices, that's it. What a fucking genius Trump is, right?

 

[pismoe]

think that the TRUMP is in charge as its the TRUMP that is the decider eh Caddo .

 

[BluesLegend]

Trump could not actually, "end NAFTA" but he could withdraw US participation, which in effect would void any US participation with the agreement.
If the US removes itself from NAFTA the US would have much less access to their biggest export markets. Many within the US business & agriculture communities view the potential for US withdrawal from NAFTA as a net negative.

Don't be such a disingenuous hack. Mexico and Canada would have less access to American markets which form a much larger share of their exports. Businessess in both countries are potentially more butt hurt than you FFS.

It's the consumers that will be hit with higher prices, that's it. What a fucking genius Trump is, right?

Wrong.

 

[Meathead]

Trump could not actually, "end NAFTA" but he could withdraw US participation, which in effect would void any US participation with the agreement.
If the US removes itself from NAFTA the US would have much less access to their biggest export markets. Many within the US business & agriculture communities view the potential for US withdrawal from NAFTA as a net negative.

Don't be such a disingenuous hack. Mexico and Canada would have less access to American markets which form a much larger share of their exports. Businessess in both countries are potentially more butt hurt than you FFS.

Well, for starters I am not, "a disingenuous hack" nor am I, "butt hurt" but thanks for demonstrating for all here to see that you are surly a jackass.

What's the point of denying the obvious? Mind you, i am not saying that being butt hurt has not effected your being a disingenuous hack. In fact, I suspect a strong correlation.

 

[caddo kid]

Trump could not actually, "end NAFTA" but he could withdraw US participation, which in effect would void any US participation with the agreement.
If the US removes itself from NAFTA the US would have much less access to their biggest export markets. Many within the US business & agriculture communities view the potential for US withdrawal from NAFTA as a net negative.

Don't be such a disingenuous hack. Mexico and Canada would have less access to American markets which form a much larger share of their exports. Businessess in both countries are potentially more butt hurt than you FFS.

It's the consumers that will be hit with higher prices, that's it. What a fucking genius Trump is, right?

Removing the US from NAFTA would accomplish at a minimum too things:
1. Higher consumer prices for some items, as you stated
2. Lower prices for US farm products; US farmers & US agriculture in general would suffer lo$$ from this

 

[Taz]

Trump could not actually, "end NAFTA" but he could withdraw US participation, which in effect would void any US participation with the agreement.
If the US removes itself from NAFTA the US would have much less access to their biggest export markets. Many within the US business & agriculture communities view the potential for US withdrawal from NAFTA as a net negative.

Don't be such a disingenuous hack. Mexico and Canada would have less access to American markets which form a much larger share of their exports. Businessess in both countries are potentially more butt hurt than you FFS.

It's the consumers that will be hit with higher prices, that's it. What a fucking genius Trump is, right?

Wrong.

They said it on the news last night, Trump's deal with Messiko will force the use of more expensive labor to build cars. You think the car companies are going to gift you that?

 

[my2¢]

Since arguments can be made for both sides on whether Trump has sole power to end NAFTA, I see that as something for the Supreme Court to decide - if and when it comes about. Sure can imagine the many lawsuits with most of our states exporting goods to Canada more than any other country.

 

[bullwinkle]

NAFTA was negotiated & signed by George HW Bush.

It did not have the votes to be ratified although it was support by more Republicans than Democrats,

So the ideas of NAFTA were written into a bill & passed Congress & was signed into law.

A President can not just change the law unless it states so in that law.

So can Trump end NAFTA without Congressional approval?

Does Trump know this?

The majority Congress will not interfere with anything Trump wants to do, Constitutional or not. So the question is rhetorical. Watching Mitch McConnell yesterday, with Chao snuggling all over him, was enough to gag a maggot when you remember how cowardly and waffling he is in his acquiescence.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Trump could not actually, "end NAFTA" but he could withdraw US participation, which in effect would void any US participation with the agreement.
If the US removes itself from NAFTA the US would have much less access to their biggest export markets. Many within the US business & agriculture communities view the potential for US withdrawal from NAFTA as a net negative.

Don't be such a disingenuous hack. Mexico and Canada would have less access to American markets which form a much larger share of their exports. Businessess in both countries are potentially more butt hurt than you FFS.

It's the consumers that will be hit with higher prices, that's it. What a fucking genius Trump is, right?

Wrong.

They said it on the news last night, Trump's deal with Messiko will force the use of more expensive labor to build cars. You think the car companies are going to gift you that?

Not us, but Mexico will have to pay a certain percent of their workers more. This will of course raise the price of the cars that we buy.

But it is not enough of a raise that it would make car companies invest billions to move their plants back to the US soil. They will just pass the cost along to us and it will not mean more jobs. This was a minor tweak to a minor part of NAFTA.

Trump though is doing his best to keep Canada from coming to a deal, even leaking his own off the record comments and then talking about them every day since. The last thing Trump cares about are the workers on the US.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

NAFTA was negotiated & signed by George HW Bush.

It did not have the votes to be ratified although it was support by more Republicans than Democrats,

So the ideas of NAFTA were written into a bill & passed Congress & was signed into law.

A President can not just change the law unless it states so in that law.

So can Trump end NAFTA without Congressional approval?

Does Trump know this?

The majority Congress will not interfere with anything Trump wants to do, Constitutional or not. So the question is rhetorical. Watching Mitch McConnell yesterday, with Chao snuggling all over him, was enough to gag a maggot when you remember how cowardly and waffling he is in his acquiescence.

They were pretty quick to tell him to shove his letter up his ass when he told them to not give the Feds a pay raise this coming year.

 

[caddo kid]

Trump could not actually, "end NAFTA" but he could withdraw US participation, which in effect would void any US participation with the agreement.
If the US removes itself from NAFTA the US would have much less access to their biggest export markets. Many within the US business & agriculture communities view the potential for US withdrawal from NAFTA as a net negative.

Don't be such a disingenuous hack. Mexico and Canada would have less access to American markets which form a much larger share of their exports. Businessess in both countries are potentially more butt hurt than you FFS.

It's the consumers that will be hit with higher prices, that's it. What a fucking genius Trump is, right?

Wrong.

They said it on the news last night, Trump's deal with Messiko will force the use of more expensive labor to build cars. You think the car companies are going to gift you that?

Not us, but Mexico will have to pay a certain percent of their workers more. This will of course raise the price of the cars that we buy.

But it is not enough of a raise that it would make car companies invest billions to move their plants back to the US soil. They will just pass the cost along to us and it will not mean more jobs. This was a minor tweak to a minor part of NAFTA.

Trump though is doing his best to keep Canada from coming to a deal, even leaking his own off the record comments and then talking about them every day since. The last thing Trump cares about are the workers on the US.

From some of the articles I have read I believe you are correct.
In effect, the 'new' agreement would have some auto workers in Mexico gaining a tow, to three fold pay increase, from the $5 to $7 range, up to $16 an hour.
I don't see how a scenario like that would develop into a net gain for US consumers, nor for US workers.
Trump has always been very good at manipulating others, making some believe they will be better off if they work a 'deal' with him.
Some folks are pretty gullible.