That's it. Very clear and very simple. While looking for positive evidence of a hijacking I have not been able to find anything conclusive. Here are some facts we are aware of: The xponder was turned off around 8:50am and air traffic controllers lost the plane. For those who are unaware, turning a xponder off does not magically transform a plane into a stealth aircraft. (If it does, the Air Force owes the American public am explanation for the billions spent on "stealth technology.") Flight 77 went missing and there was never confirmation it reappeared on radar. The CR (commission report) has a suspected flight path with dotted lines between the early mid west and the Pentagon. They claim that is the path but there has never been confirmation. The obvious question is how was it possible for a 757 to fly in US airspace undetected? We kind of have every square inch of our airspace under surveillance from a multitude of civilian and military radars not to mention satellites. Norman Mineta has testified he was a witness to a conversation between Cheney and a soldier in the PEOC that occurred during the approach of an aircraft to the Pentagon. That was about 9:25 which corresponds with the tracking of the aircraft that hit the Pentagon at 9:37. For all you CR junkies, you know Mineta's testimony was stricken because the CR claimed Cheney didn't arrive in the PEOC until 9:58am. Unfortunately, the CR lacks evidence and there are many sources that contradict this claim. (That is a side issue from our purpose here and now.) The CVR provided absolutely no information. The FDR definitely has not proven a hijack had taken place. One of the earliest items used was the claim by Ted Olson that his wife called him twice and informed him of the hijacking. That claim has long been the center of evidence but now we know he never spoke to his wife. In ZM's trial the FBI provided their evidence of communications between everyone on 77 to the rest of the world. There is a single call attributed to Barbara Olson that lasted "zero seconds." That means Ted never spoke to his wife even though he went on the networks to claim he had first hand evidence of a hijacking and he obtained that info from two phone calls his wife made. Years later, many still wrongly believe those calls are legit. Aside from the FBI evidence there are also other factors, including how Olson himself kept changing his claim. First he said she used a cell phone, then someone pointed out it was a collect call to the DOJ so it must have been an airphone. Then someone pointed out you can't make a collect call from an airphone. Then someone pointed out Flt 77 didn't have airphones. So Ted reverts back to his cell phone claim, that was once again proven false. This link exhaustively checks out the info but the clincher is the FBI's evidence at ZM's trial showing Ted never spoke to Barbara. Why did he lie? An Analysis of New Evidence... Another key piece missing is the hijackers were never confirmed by DNA. The FBI knew where they lived and even spoke with Hanjour's family so OCTAs cannot dismiss the lack of DNA confirmation on the basis there was no way a comparison could have been made. Just as family members provided DNA for passenger/victim matches the FBI had the DNA to provide a match for the hijackers but it was never done. I suspect OCTAs will refer to two items in haste: flight manifest and airport pics. The only problem there is Hanjour's name was not on the earliest manifest released and the importance there is he is the only one to have been attributed to being hijacker trained pilot on 77. The pics are fuzzy and photoshop makes them suspect. In summary, it appears there is no positive evidence 77 was hijacked and I'm fully confident OCTAs brave enough to respond will help solidify this by pointing to assumptions and screaming "How did the place get there?!?" Logically, that is an assumption of proof, not positive evidence it happened the way we are told. So if there is any positive evidence, what is it?