Jesse Ventura's Conspiracy Theory on TruTv

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    Jesse Ventura's Conspiracy Theory on TruTv: 9/11 segment

    Enjoy the show folks post what you thought after watching.

    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tkio6TF0Ufg]Conspiracy Theory 9/11 Jesse Ventura Part 1 of 4 Episode 2[/ame]


    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8490zVpDBs&annotation_id=annotation_485841&feature=iv]Conspiracy Theory 9/11 Jesse Ventura Part 2 of 4 Episode 2[/ame]


    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s48kHu-zDhE&annotation_id=annotation_93557&feature=iv]Conspiracy Theory 9/11 Jesse Ventura Part 3 of 4 Episode 2[/ame]


    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZNQYuV4nqjI&annotation_id=annotation_865218&feature=iv]Conspiracy Theory 9/11 Jesse Ventura Part 4 of 4[/ame]
     
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    Very good show.

    The part about how Nano-Thermite can be painted on is interesting.

    Not sure if there is a connection but BOTH towers had ONLY a small section completed of new fireproofing replacement on a section of the steel support structures.

    The fireproofing used was sprayed on 1 1/2" thick.

    The inspection reports shortly before 9/11 stated they could not find the specifications for the type of fireproofing used.....I will dig this up again.

    PLUS...the planes just happened to hit BOTH Towers exactly in the only part of each tower where the fireproofing upgrades were performed.

    This reminds me that ALSO the plane hit the Pentagon in the ONLY part of the building under reinforcement construction upgrades.
     
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    Let's examine Part 1 shall we:

    Evidence 1: Jessica brings them to secured area (an investigation site) that won't let the press in? Especially one by the name of conspiracy theory. Amazing! An area of investigation of the biggest attack on America, not being allowed in. WOW what are the odds. Probably close to 100%. Opps.

    Evidence 2: Willy Rod. A man who CLAIMS to have been their and escaped, yet there is no record of him or his BS interview. Yep that always has to mean its the government conspiracy and not a pathetic individual liar. Come on folks, if the US government killed 3K Americans (and start 2 wars), are they really going to let people like little Willy stay around to talk to stupid people like Jessica.

    Evidence 3: A BYU liberal professor. First he offers no evidence other than what he preceives is building 7 falling like a controlled demolition. Wow solid evidence that it looks the same. That type of hypo wouldn't hold up in a highschool science project.

    Second he says there bomb residue in the smoke. (1) He wasn't there. (2) He had no samples. (3) His hypo is based on only what he saw on TV. (4) Not to mention that the large materials from the falling buildings would dillute any bomb residue to a naked eye observation. Heck any 3rd grader could tell you that. Wow what a solid lead. Maybe this guy was let go because he is a quack.
     
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    Examine it more:
    A NM professor verifies the BYU story, by trying to compare a small fire to a giant airline crashing into a building. Yep that's an apples to apples comparison. :doubt: There couldn't be nothing wrong in that theory and test.:doubt: The NM hack didn't get any samples from 9/11 yet he knows everything. Spotty theory at best. He tries to compare a little experiment with an airline crashing into buildings. Yet he can make a right on conclusion! Come on this guy is worse than the BYU professor. I could get a few professors to testify that the sky is orange, that doesn't mean it is!

    Next, talks to people who lost someone. They are great experts right? :doubt:

    Next, they cry about not being allowed into the investigation site! WOW that never happens. Heck the media can't even get into most small investigation sites, but Jessica cries foul about not being able to get into the largest in US history. Makes perfect sense.

    The largest clean up in US history and Jessica complaints that the material was sent out and alot was recycled! OMG, what inhuman bastards. They recycled and cleaned up. Wait aren't Libtards supposed to be for that. What did Jessica want? Did he want them to leave a mess all over the city. That makes perfect sense.

    Now you have Mike. Yep an average Joe like him would be witness to the big cover up. Then just by coicidence this Average Joe, know heads at the airlines and aviation department? OK that makes this Average Joe look creditable. :doubt: Then he states sorry Jessica they were going to come, but backed out. Why because they fear for their lives. Yet a stroker like Mike is free do speak garbage to whoever will listen? Again if the government killed 3K why the hell would they not take out a stroker like Mike. Mike is as creditable as Eots.

    The black box does have some legs, but not enough for one to jump to the conclusion that it was US government.
     
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    That Jessica Ventura could be the governor of any state! :eek:
     
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    Former Chief of NIST's Fire Science Division Calls for Independent Review of World Trade Center Investigation
    August 21, 2007


    Dr. Quintiere, one of the world’s leading fire science researchers and safety engineers, also encouraged his audience of fellow researchers and engineers to scientifically re-examine the WTC collapses. “I hope to convince you to perhaps become 'Conspiracy Theorists', but in a proper way,” he said.

    In his hour-long presentation, Dr. Quintiere discussed many elements of NIST’s investigation that he found problematic. He emphasized, “In every investigation I’ve taken part in, the key has been to establish a timeline. And the timeline is established by witness accounts, by information from alarm systems, by any video that you might have of the event, and then by calculations. And you try to put all of this together. And if your calculations are consistent with some of these hard facts, then perhaps you can have some comfort in the results of your calculations. I have not seen a timeline placed in the NIST report


    Dr. Quintiere said he originally “had high hopes” that NIST would do a good job with the investigation. “They’re the central government lab for fire. There are good people there and they can do a good job. But what I also thought they would do is to enlist the service of the ATF [Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives], which has an investigation force and a laboratory of their own for fire. And I thought they would put people out on the street and get gumshoe-type information. What prevented all of this? I think it’s the legal structure that cloaks the Commerce Department and therefore NIST. And so, instead of lawyers as if they were acting on a civil case trying to get depositions and information subpoenaed, those lawyers did the opposite and blocked everything.”

    Why were not alternative collapse hypotheses investigated and discussed as NIST had stated repeatedly that they would do? ...


    Spoliation of a fire scene is a basis for destroying a legal case in an investigation. Most of the steel was discarded, although the key elements of the core steel were demographically labeled. A careful reading of the NIST report shows that they have no evidence that the temperatures they predict as necessary for failure are corroborated by findings of the little steel debris they have. Why hasn't NIST declared that this spoliation of the steel was a gross error?

    In my opinion, the WTC investigation by NIST falls short of expectations by not definitively finding cause, by not sufficiently linking recommendations of specificity to cause, by not fully invoking all of their authority to seek facts in the investigation, and by the guidance of government lawyers to deter rather than develop fact finding.
    OpEdNews - Page 2 of Article: Former Chief of NIST's Fire Science Division Calls for Independent Review of World Trade Center Investigation
     
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    lets examine ghook69 disingenuousness shall we..

    the evidence is 8 years old,,the facts apparently known..6 years ago popular mechanics was in there given unprecedented access to the evidence not seen by the public yet years later governor navy seal cant see the same evidence..but that's OK




    now he slanders willy rodriguez and shows and diverts to strawman and shows his completely ignorance by his implications that willy is somehow alone in his testimony..or that there is no record of him ..when in fact he was honored by the president for his bravery that day and testified to the 9/11 commission



    evidence of thernite was found in the residue and observation of speed and motion is a valid scientific observation



    there are many samples and they have been peer reviewed both ignited and unignited nano thermite


    wasn't that fun..
     
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    He wasn't going over their as a governor or navy seal. He was going over their as a traitorous conspiracy nut!



    They stated by the only smart one on the team, that they have no record of him testifying or working at the WCT! Just Big Willy saying he testified. Sorry, but I give the benefit of the doubt to the government over Big Willy.


    According to who? Not this BYU and NM quack. They are going off their observations of the events from TV and not on examining the smoke. Sorry, but that doesn't cut it for me and anyone with a brain.

    They are saying that constuction workers painted the entire building in thernite! Come on now, that is absolutely crazy!


    If there was, it was examined by these 2 quacks, because, if they did, they would have told Jessica. However, they didn't say they tested samples of anything because they didn't. Sorry but Jessica's 2 smoking guns are so flawed its amazing people can believe it!

    What was fun, other than realizing you need to readjust your tinfoil hat.
     
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    this rambling discourse speaks for itself and is not worth comment




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    now he slanders the family who are indeed experts on the fact that the investigation was flawed a cover-up and did not answer their questions



    yet again many other media sources telling the story they wanted toldhave been and there never had national security clerence levels of a govener and navy seal



    then he tries to justify the spoliation of a crime scene a fact that deeply disturbed the honest NIST investigators and ignores the fact the materials could of just as easily been moved and contained until needed as shipped overseas



    ghook69 has about as much credibility as the ADL
     
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    NOW HE SHOWS HIS TRUE COLORS..



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