Can God love?

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    Can God love?

    We are told that the mythical bible God is love or the epitome of love.

    Archetypal Jesus said that we would know his people by the love, deeds and actions they showed others.

    Jesus gave us examples of the deeds and works. Feed the poor, love all our neighbours, do not sin and many others.

    Love then, seems to Jesus, to be something that must be shown by deeds, actions and works to be alive and true love. Love, like faith, without works is dead. Both St. James and Jesus agree on this.

    It follows then that if God is not doing something to show this love then the love for man expressed in scriptures is wrong and God cannot love.

    You are in the image of God. When you love someone you show them that love by works and deeds. This is how the recipient of that love knows it is there and that allows for reciprocity. You will agree that without reciprocity, true love cannot exist between two individuals. We must do things for each other for true love to exist.

    Imagine what those you love would think if you never did anything to express your love. Imagine what you would think of the love of others towards you if they never did anything to show they loved you. See what I mean. Love always must have deeds to be real and true and reciprocity must be at play.

    Love then has no choice but to be expressed if it is true love.

    We are told that God loved his son so much that he planned to have him sacrificed even before the earth was created. This human sacrifice or any other human sacrifice, voluntary or not, is immoral and the notion that it is good to sacrifice an innocent victim to give the guilty believers a free ride into heaven is a completely self-gratifying notion and is completely immoral. One does not show love for someone by having them sacrificed for the sins of others when God himself stated that we are all responsible for our own salvation and cannot put that responsibility of the shoulders of a scapegoat Jesus.

    Does love need deeds and works to be expressed?

    Have you seen God express his love for us lately?

    Regards
    DL

    These following speak to this issue if you wish to view them.

    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMXoPhgTkuY&feature=player_embedded](9) His Plan - YouTube[/ame]

    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AcO4TnrskE0&feature=related]Sam Harris simply destroys catholicism - YouTube[/ame]

    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JP7SPJllNoc]God is love? - YouTube[/ame]
     
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    God and Jesus loves all.

    Except they hates gays and interracial couples and non believers and other religions and sex and etc etc.
    How hypocritical can you get? Religion does not give you the right to be a dick and force your shit down people's throats.

    Religion is to love and worship, not to be treated like a penis.


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    No argument.
    Good pic.

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    Gawd is Luv !
    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NW7vENdDu1o&feature=related]TERRIBLE NEW FOOTAGE of 2011 TSUNAMI IN JAPAN! - YouTube[/ame]
     
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    Or do you suppose that it was just us humans who supposedly evolved from apes or some primordial soup who created " love" ourselves? LOL... Oh yes, we, the great human race must've created love since we are so darn smart, never war, never do things wrong, never hurt each other and we know everything.


    The message of Gospel is so overwhelming for some; I believe it is because we want to keep punishing others or ourselves for doing things wrong, even ourselves (when we do things wrong). The Grace He bestowed upon that Cross is unimagible for some; because here on earth, that kind of love is limited because of our nature.

    There is no greater love than to lay down your life - That is what God did. He laid down His life for us.

    If you wanna think you can do and know better than Him - have at it! :eusa_angel:
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    So god is dead? :confused:

    Sorry, couldn't help myself! :lol:
     
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    :) haha... at least you are kind/funny about it


    Sure, yes, the rest of truth... His ascension!!!:

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    Natural phenomena is not.

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    I guess that you did not compare the quotes in th O P when you decided to thump.

    Why are your quotes better than mine? Or are they?

    That aside, if all we are going to do is thump at each other-----

    It was God's plan from the beginning to have Adam and Eve eat the forbidden fruit. This can be demonstrated by the fact that the bible says that Jesus "was crucified from the foundations of the Earth," that is to say, God planned to crucify Jesus as atonement for sin before he even created human beings or God damned sin.

    If God had not intended humans to sin from the beginning, why did he build into the Creation this "solution" for sin? Why create a solution for a problem you do not anticipate?

    God knew that the moment he said "don't eat from that tree," the die was cast. The eating was inevitable. Eve was merely following the plan.

    This then begs the question.

    What kind of God would plan and execute the murder of his own son when there was absolutely no need to?

    Only an insane God. That’s who.

    The cornerstone of Christianity is human sacrifice, thus showing it‘s immorality.

    One of Christianity's highest form of immorality is what they have done to women.
    They have denied them equality and subjugated them to men.

    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqN8EYIIR3g&feature=related]Women Part 1 - YouTube[/ame]

    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dspWh9g3hU&feature=related]Women Part 2 - YouTube[/ame]

    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9c0RFxXrYzg&feature=related]Holy Bible - Epic Fail - YouTube[/ame]

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    Do you find it strange that the 4 main gospels do not mention this fantastic Ascension of yours?

    Do you care what modern scholarship says or do you prefer to live in the knowledge that is 3,000 years old like most non thinking thumpers?

    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2xH93PSZ6fQ]Bart Ehrman (3/21/11) - YouTube[/ame]

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    DL
     

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