Can anyone point out ANYTHING in the infamous dossier that has been substantiated?

[eddiew37]

1. If there is one false fact in the dossier that doesn't mean the whole dossier is wrong. If you want to play that then the whole Nunes Memo should be thrown out right now.

PRECISELY !!!.............But the mind-set of Trump cult members would NEVER allow logic to enter into the equation.

their heads are so far up trumps rectum they can't see logic

 

[Hutch Starskey]

1. If there is one false fact in the dossier that doesn't mean the whole dossier is wrong. If you want to play that then the whole Nunes Memo should be thrown out right now.

PRECISELY !!!.............But the mind-set of Trump cult members would NEVER allow logic to enter into the equation.

their heads are so far up trumps rectum they can't see logic

their heads are so far up trumps rectum they can't see logic

That is the only real deep state .

 

[nat4900]

The FACT is some russian was being paid by Steele to fabricate bullshit lies and give them to Steele. Steele KNEW they were lies but he peddled them to the FBI as facts.
The Trump haters at the FBI happily and knowingly bought the Steele lies and used them to get a FISA warrant on Carter Page so they could gather 'incidental information' on the Trump campaign.

Allow me to join the chorus of everyone else who MUST call you a fucking idiot.

You state that Steele "knew" that he was peddling lies because ???? (You heard it from Sean Hannity?.........It fits your fucked up biases???.....Because you;re a Trump cult member??......................Choose one.

Second, even a moron such as you should know that when a warrant to spy on Page was issued, Page was NO LONGER part of the Trump campaign....but, since it doesn't fit your biases, you go on spewing this shit for what reason???

Third, your cult ilk has taken on the ENTIRE intelligence community to defend the moron-in-chief exactly WHY?? Does your undying "love of an orange buffoon compel you to go even AGAINST the same government that some of you ionce praised as being the best in the world?

 

[playtime]

All those Russian Intel guys probably got medals from Putin for carrying off one of BIGGEST misinformation operations in the history of spy pranking.. They are STILL laughing about it..

How could that be, the dossier had no influence whatsoever on the election.

What is the justification for that claim? The dossier was used to get a FISA warrant to spy on the Trump campaign. How do you know what the Hillary crew did with the information obtained?

fake news. carter page had been on the FBI's radar since 2013. the FISA warrant gets reviewed & either renewed every 90 days depending on continuing intel from the previous warrant granted, or based on new info since the last renewal. or it gets rejected. the dossier, which corroborated previous intel only 'helped' in the renewal... NOT the beginning & sole basis for the warrant.

nice try, you lie.

 

[AntonToo]

How true is the Trump-Russia dossier? One year later, what we know about its claims

Verified: Former Trump campaign adviser Carter Page met with representatives of Russian state-owned oil giant Rosneft.
Page vehemently denied that he met with Sechin. But in November, the House Intelligence Committee released a transcript of Page’s congressional testimony revealing he had in fact met with other Rosneft officials, including Sechin's subordinate Andrey Baranov, during a trip to Moscow in 2016.

Verified: The Kremlin targeted educated youth and swing state voters during its cyber attacks in the 2016 campaign.
The dossier said educated youth and swing voters were a central target in the Kremlin's campaign of fake news and social media chaos, with the hope of cultivating their anti-establishment anger against Democratic candidate Hillary Clinton. This has been proven by congressional investigations into Russia’s misinformation campaigns during the election, which also showed the cyber attacks were broadly aimed at a variety of voters, with the intent to sow divisions on heated political topics.

Verified: Trump maintains ties to rich businessmen from Azerbaijan.
Trump and fellow billionaire are now well-established. Emails released in July revealed that Agalarov’s publicist Rob Goldstone had written to Trump’s son, Donald Trump Jr., to set up a meeting with a Russian lawyer who supposedly had dirt on Hillary Clinton, as part of what Goldstone called "Russia and its government’s support for Mr Trump." Trump Jr. attended a Trump Tower meeting with the lawyer in June 2016 along with Trump campaign manager Paul Manafort and Trump's son-in-law Jared Kushner. That meeting has become a major focus of the investigations into the Trump campaign.

Probably false: Michael Cohen was confused with another person by same name who traveled to Prague.

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[postman]

All those Russian Intel guys probably got medals from Putin for carrying off one of BIGGEST misinformation operations in the history of spy pranking.. They are STILL laughing about it..

How could that be, the dossier had no influence whatsoever on the election.

What is the justification for that claim? The dossier was used to get a FISA warrant to spy on the Trump campaign. How do you know what the Hillary crew did with the information obtained?

fake news. carter page had been on the FBI's radar since 2013. the FISA warrant gets reviewed & either renewed every 90 days depending on continuing intel from the previous warrant granted, or based on new info since the last renewal. or it gets rejected. the dossier, which corroborated previous intel only 'helped' in the renewal... NOT the beginning & sole basis for the warrant.

nice try, you lie.

You are correct. Renewal is based on whether the warrant has produced useful intel, enough to warrant its renewal. If Carter Page wasn't providing incriminating evidence, the warrant would have lapsed after 90 days, and not been renewed.

 

[playtime]

All those Russian Intel guys probably got medals from Putin for carrying off one of BIGGEST misinformation operations in the history of spy pranking.. They are STILL laughing about it..

How could that be, the dossier had no influence whatsoever on the election.

What is the justification for that claim? The dossier was used to get a FISA warrant to spy on the Trump campaign. How do you know what the Hillary crew did with the information obtained?

fake news. carter page had been on the FBI's radar since 2013. the FISA warrant gets reviewed & either renewed every 90 days depending on continuing intel from the previous warrant granted, or based on new info since the last renewal. or it gets rejected. the dossier, which corroborated previous intel only 'helped' in the renewal... NOT the beginning & sole basis for the warrant.

nice try, you lie.

You are correct. Renewal is based on whether the warrant has produced useful intel, enough to warrant its renewal. If Carter Page wasn't providing incriminating evidence, the warrant would have lapsed after 90 days, and not been renewed.

one theory circulating around is that carter page flipped years ago & he's actually a double agent. wouldn't that be a hoot?

 

[nat4900]

one theory circulating around is that carter page flipped years ago & he's actually a double agent. wouldn't that be a hoot?

Actually, because of monitoring Page's phone calls and meetings, TWO Russian spies fled the U.S. and ONE wound up in prison (but the sentence was shortened by Trump and the spy is back in Russian soil.)

 

[nat4900]

Actually, because of monitoring Page's phone calls and meetings, TWO Russian spies fled the U.S. and ONE wound up in prison (but the sentence was shortened by Trump and the spy is back in Russian soil.)

Here's a good read.......(NOTE the last line oft his article)


The Russian spies, however, had one promising lead. This was a guy—an energy consultant based in New York City. Unlike the women, he was eager to help. And, it appeared, keen to make money in Moscow. There was a drawback: The source—whom the FBI called “Male-1”—was something of a dimwit.

The FBI intercepts record:

PODOBNYY: [Male-1] wrote that he is sorry, he went to Moscow and forgot to check his inbox, but he wants to meet when he gets back. I think he is an idiot and forgot who I am. Plus he writes to me in Russian [to] practise the language. He flies to Moscow more often than I do. He got hooked on [the Russian state energy company] Gazprom, thinking that if they have a project, he could rise up. Maybe he can. I don’t know, but it’s obvious he wants to earn loads of money.

SPORYSHEV: Without a doubt.

Podobnyy explained he intended to string Male-1 along. That meant feeding him “empty promises.” Podobnyy would play up his connections to Russia’s trade delegation, to Sporyshev, and pretend his SVR colleague might “push contracts” the American’s way.

PODOBNYY: This is intelligence method to cheat! How else to work with foreigners? You promise a favour for a favour. You get the documents from him and go tell him to fuck himself. But not to upset you I will take you to a restaurant and give you an expensive gift. You just need to sign for it. That is ideal working method.

These tactics may have been crude. In this instance they worked. Podobnyy approached the consultant at an energy symposium in New York. According to FBI court documents, the two swapped contacts. They emailed for several months. Male-1 co-operated, although he says he did not know the Russian was a spy. He even handed him documents about the energy world.

This was a strange business—Kremlin officers careening around Manhattan, spycraft involving fake umbrellas, and an American intelligence source who spent more time in Moscow than his Russian handlers. Plus espionage professionals who turned out to be suffering from ennui.


The American willing to provide information to Putin’s foreign intelligence officers rented a working space at 590 Madison Avenue. The building was linked by a glass atrium to a well-known New York landmark, Trump Tower. The atrium had a pleasant courtyard, with bamboo trees, where you could sit and drink coffee. Next door was a franchise of Niketown.

From the atrium you could take the elevator up to the Trump Tower public garden on the fourth floor, with its sparrows and maple trees. The din from West 57th Street meant the garden wasn’t exactly tranquil. Or you could queue up with Japanese and German tourists at the Trump Tower basement restaurant and salad bar. Failing that, there was Starbucks on the first floor.

Male-1 had a name. At this point few had heard of him. He was Carter Page.

Why Carter Page Was Worth Watching

 

[dannyboys]

All those Russian Intel guys probably got medals from Putin for carrying off one of BIGGEST misinformation operations in the history of spy pranking.. They are STILL laughing about it..

How could that be, the dossier had no influence whatsoever on the election.

What is the justification for that claim? The dossier was used to get a FISA warrant to spy on the Trump campaign. How do you know what the Hillary crew did with the information obtained?

fake news. carter page had been on the FBI's radar since 2013. the FISA warrant gets reviewed & either renewed every 90 days depending on continuing intel from the previous warrant granted, or based on new info since the last renewal. or it gets rejected. the dossier, which corroborated previous intel only 'helped' in the renewal... NOT the beginning & sole basis for the warrant.

nice try, you lie.

You are correct. Renewal is based on whether the warrant has produced useful intel, enough to warrant its renewal. If Carter Page wasn't providing incriminating evidence, the warrant would have lapsed after 90 days, and not been renewed.

ALL the FISA warrants are going to be made public. Then we'll know what the FBI did or didn't do to get the warrants.
There are corrupt FBI officials at the very top along with BONOBO's corrupt staff and the corrupt MSM Trump-haters who will be going to prison.

 

[AntonToo]

All those Russian Intel guys probably got medals from Putin for carrying off one of BIGGEST misinformation operations in the history of spy pranking.. They are STILL laughing about it..

How could that be, the dossier had no influence whatsoever on the election.

What is the justification for that claim? The dossier was used to get a FISA warrant to spy on the Trump campaign. How do you know what the Hillary crew did with the information obtained?

fake news. carter page had been on the FBI's radar since 2013. the FISA warrant gets reviewed & either renewed every 90 days depending on continuing intel from the previous warrant granted, or based on new info since the last renewal. or it gets rejected. the dossier, which corroborated previous intel only 'helped' in the renewal... NOT the beginning & sole basis for the warrant.

nice try, you lie.

You are correct. Renewal is based on whether the warrant has produced useful intel, enough to warrant its renewal. If Carter Page wasn't providing incriminating evidence, the warrant would have lapsed after 90 days, and not been renewed.

ALL the FISA warrants are going to be made public. Then we'll know what the FBI did or didn't do to get the warrants.
There are corrupt FBI officials at the very top along with BONOBO's corrupt staff and the corrupt MSM Trump-haters who will be going to prison.

lol keep hoping and wishing.

Trump can declassify anything his silly little heart desires and you can bet your first born if there was anything to release that would help him fend off Mueller he would have already done it.

Meanwhile, stop pushing baseless bullshit.

 

[bripat9643]

Actually, because of monitoring Page's phone calls and meetings, TWO Russian spies fled the U.S. and ONE wound up in prison (but the sentence was shortened by Trump and the spy is back in Russian soil.)

Here's a good read.......(NOTE the last line oft his article)


The Russian spies, however, had one promising lead. This was a guy—an energy consultant based in New York City. Unlike the women, he was eager to help. And, it appeared, keen to make money in Moscow. There was a drawback: The source—whom the FBI called “Male-1”—was something of a dimwit.

The FBI intercepts record:

PODOBNYY: [Male-1] wrote that he is sorry, he went to Moscow and forgot to check his inbox, but he wants to meet when he gets back. I think he is an idiot and forgot who I am. Plus he writes to me in Russian [to] practise the language. He flies to Moscow more often than I do. He got hooked on [the Russian state energy company] Gazprom, thinking that if they have a project, he could rise up. Maybe he can. I don’t know, but it’s obvious he wants to earn loads of money.

SPORYSHEV: Without a doubt.

Podobnyy explained he intended to string Male-1 along. That meant feeding him “empty promises.” Podobnyy would play up his connections to Russia’s trade delegation, to Sporyshev, and pretend his SVR colleague might “push contracts” the American’s way.

PODOBNYY: This is intelligence method to cheat! How else to work with foreigners? You promise a favour for a favour. You get the documents from him and go tell him to fuck himself. But not to upset you I will take you to a restaurant and give you an expensive gift. You just need to sign for it. That is ideal working method.

These tactics may have been crude. In this instance they worked. Podobnyy approached the consultant at an energy symposium in New York. According to FBI court documents, the two swapped contacts. They emailed for several months. Male-1 co-operated, although he says he did not know the Russian was a spy. He even handed him documents about the energy world.

This was a strange business—Kremlin officers careening around Manhattan, spycraft involving fake umbrellas, and an American intelligence source who spent more time in Moscow than his Russian handlers. Plus espionage professionals who turned out to be suffering from ennui.


The American willing to provide information to Putin’s foreign intelligence officers rented a working space at 590 Madison Avenue. The building was linked by a glass atrium to a well-known New York landmark, Trump Tower. The atrium had a pleasant courtyard, with bamboo trees, where you could sit and drink coffee. Next door was a franchise of Niketown.

From the atrium you could take the elevator up to the Trump Tower public garden on the fourth floor, with its sparrows and maple trees. The din from West 57th Street meant the garden wasn’t exactly tranquil. Or you could queue up with Japanese and German tourists at the Trump Tower basement restaurant and salad bar. Failing that, there was Starbucks on the first floor.

Male-1 had a name. At this point few had heard of him. He was Carter Page.

Why Carter Page Was Worth Watching

So where is the evidence that Page did anything illegal?

 

[LoneLaugher]

Even that douchebag Schiff admits Cohen was never in Prague.

No - that is NOT what he said - But you probably bought the misleading headline on Newsmax Amiright?

What he said was that only the parts of the dossier related to Carter Page were presented to the FISA court and that one of his COLLEAGUES said that.

Get a grip and watch the video angry Lil Feller!

"So one of my colleagues, for example, said, well, we don't have evidence that Michael Cohen made a trip to Prague. This is also part of the dossier," Schiff said. "But that Michael Cohen trip to Prague wasn't part of the materials provided to the FISA court. So it's very disingenuous to say the FISA court was misled because we don't believe Michael Cohen went to Prague when that information was never provided to the court."​

Read Full Article Here Rep. Schiff Admits Trump Lawyer Never Was in Prague | Newsmax.com

The fact that it wasn't presented to the FISA court doesn't mean the claim wasn't made or that it wasn't wrong. Schiff admitted that Cohen wasn't in Prague, period. That has to be the most pathetic excuse for logic I have ever seen posted in this forum.

You area fucking dumbass who doesn't understand simple English.

Weeeeeeeeee!

 

[LoneLaugher]

WoooooooHoooooooo!

The fact that it wasn't presented to the FISA court doesn't mean the claim wasn't made or that it wasn't wrong. Schiff admitted that Cohen wasn't in Prague, period. That has to be the most pathetic excuse for logic I have ever seen posted in this forum.

You area fucking dumbass who doesn't understand simple English.

No Angry Lil Guy - NOT what he said.
You need a class in reading and listening comprehension.

SCHIFF: That's exactly right. And we'll be releasing the transcript of our hearing last night, and you can see members making this argument, that unfortunately it's because they haven't read the underlying materials. So one of my colleagues, for example, said, well, we don't have evidence that Michael Cohen made a trip to Prague. This is also part of the dossier. But that Michael Cohen trip to Prague wasn't part of the materials provided to the FISA court. So it's very disingenuous to say the FISA court was misled because we don't believe Michael Cohen went to Prague when that information was never provided to the court.

What part of "we don't believe Michael Cohen went to Prague" don't you understand?

 

[Lakhota]

Another part of the dossier has now been confirmed.

McClatchy: Mueller has evidence Cohen was in Prague in 2016, confirming part of dossier

 

[bripat9643]

Another part of the dossier has now been confirmed.

McClatchy: Mueller has evidence Cohen was in Prague in 2016, confirming part of dossier

No it hasn't. Herr Obbergruppenfuhrer Mewler saying he believes it doesn't make it a fact. Let's see his evidence. Cohen says he has ironclad evidence that shows he was in california. Furthermore there is no stamp in his passport for Prague.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Up next.....

 

[debbiedowner]

The fact that it wasn't presented to the FISA court doesn't mean the claim wasn't made or that it wasn't wrong. Schiff admitted that Cohen wasn't in Prague, period. That has to be the most pathetic excuse for logic I have ever seen posted in this forum.

You area fucking dumbass who doesn't understand simple English.

No Angry Lil Guy - NOT what he said.
You need a class in reading and listening comprehension.

SCHIFF: That's exactly right. And we'll be releasing the transcript of our hearing last night, and you can see members making this argument, that unfortunately it's because they haven't read the underlying materials. So one of my colleagues, for example, said, well, we don't have evidence that Michael Cohen made a trip to Prague. This is also part of the dossier. But that Michael Cohen trip to Prague wasn't part of the materials provided to the FISA court. So it's very disingenuous to say the FISA court was misled because we don't believe Michael Cohen went to Prague when that information was never provided to the court.

What part of "we don't believe Michael Cohen went to Prague" don't you understand?

You are SO fucking dense - he spoke with regard to what his COLLEAGUE said. Stop taking shit out of context and creating Trump-friendly FAKE NEWS.

Thanks in advance!

You are so fucking dense. Nowhere does Frog Eye Schiff claim Cohen was ever in Prague.

Mueller has evidence that Trump lawyer met in Prague with Russians during campaign, sources say

 

[deanrd]

Can anyone point out ANYTHING in the infamous dossier that has been substantiated?

We know it was started by Republicans as opposition research against Donald (The Don) Trump.

 

[Lakhota]

Except for maybe the "Golden Showers" - what in the dossier hasn't been substantiated?