"California will be BEGGING for only 39% rate increases..."

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    Gee....I thought the reform package was supossed to make insurance cheap, affordable and avialable to ALL....that's what the Democrat Jackals have been saying for years.

    Yeah, right. :eusa_doh:

    HMOs may hike premiums, slash jobs under reform | Reuters


     
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    Risk Management. A basic premise applied to the insurance industry.

    Eliminate pre-existing clauses, the risk to pay out higher amounts will increase.

    Therefore premiums will increase.

    Basic business logic....and Obama counted on the people being too naive to know this.
     
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    Obama and his DimBulb followers (who would jump off tall buildings if he told them it would be good for them) counted on it....

    NOW....we're all going to have to deal in REALITY, not Obammy's fairy tales.

    It's gonna be EXPENSIVE. There IS NO free lunch.
     
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    This is why I'm all for a public option. No need for profits.
     
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    What part of THERE IS NO FREE LUNCH don't you understand, beowolfe?

    Dayam....for a second there, I thought you actually understood the issues before us.

    Nevermind. :eusa_doh:
     
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    BW is correct.

    If we are to eliminate pre-existing condition clauses, a PO is the only answer...and yes...at the cost of the taxpayer...

    But private insurance can not survive without pre-existing condition clauses without premiums skyrocketing.

    This bill was a sham...it will fail as premiums will become way too expensive...and the insurance companies will be blamed (although not really their fault)...and we will have no choice but a PO...and then ultimately it will be a single payer plan.

    For good or bad, that will be the result.
     
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    except doctors in countries with government health systems all want to move here

    best approach for all is to cut costs, which is impossible to do in any significant way without restricting access, i.e. rationing, but no Dem or GOP will allow this, so the politics of self-entitlement will continue to dominate, and premiums will now go through the roof, as they did in Mass. after Romneycare
     
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    Only if they are from third world countries. You don't see doctors moving here from France or Germany or England. Only from India or Pakistan or China.

    Number one cause of bankruptcies is medical bills. People using emergency rooms as their primary source of health care were bankrupting the system.

    When did the Republican party become the party of, "Piss on 'em, let them die quickly"?
     
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    There were so many lies from both sides, and the complete lie of this bill is astounding. Listening to a caller last night, catastrophic insurance not available in many states, and the options you have between insurance companies are exactly the same. Small business owners are now finding out the coverage they had last year are no longer available for their employees. The corruption of all of this is massive. It is absolutely stunning. If Bush signed this, Beowolfe wouldn't be here, so put that where it belongs.
     
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    Line in bold.

    You left out the asterisk...and it is an important one.

    The reason the number one reason for bankruptcies is medical bills is because people did not include POSSIBLE MEDICAL BILLS in the formula when they determined household budgets. They assumed they will stay healthy and opted NOT to buy insurance....or bought insurance with very high deductables....and then neglected to include the cost of the deductable, or the cost of getting ill with no insurance in their annual budgets.

    So wherweas your statement was correct, you can also say those same people went bankrupt becuase they opted to gamble that they would stay healthy.

    You will find it best rdean, to look at the overall picture before making a judgement call.

    It allows for better decision making.
     
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