2aguy
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I heard this first I. The Dan and Amy show...this California Rep. Was put on the no fly lost....and his experience shows why it is stupid...
The silliness of background checks, a very simple way to defeat being on the "no-fly" list - Crime Prevention Research Center
Congressman Tom McClintock recounts his own experience being on the âno-flyâ list. How was McClintock able to get around the ban that he faced on flying? He just had to fly under his middle name, which supposedly is âMiller.â Suppose that the IRA activist âthat the British government was mad atâ whose name was similar to McClintockâs had also started using his middle name and that it was âRichard.â If the federal government started trying to make sure that the person of interested couldnât go that route, then not only would people with the name âTom McClintockâ find themselves prevented from flying, but also people with the name âRichard McClintockâ or âRich McClintock.â
From McClintockâs speech on Thursday, December 10th, 2015:
âWhile serving in the California state Senate a decade ago, I discovered suddenly I couldnât check into a flight. When I asked why, I was told I was on this government list.
The experience was absolutely âKafkaesque.â My first reaction was to ask, âWhy am I on that list?â âWe canât tell you.â âWhat are the criteria you use?â âThatâs classified.â âHow can I get off this list?â âYou canât.â I soon discovered that another California state Senator had been placed on that list. A few months later US Senator Edward Kennedy found himself on the list. I at least had the office of sergeant-at-arms of the state Senate to work through, something an ordinary American would not. Even so it took months working through that office, with repeated petitions to the government to get my name removed from that list.
And the farce of it all was that I was advised in the meantime just to fly under my middle name, which I did without incident . . . .â
The silliness of background checks, a very simple way to defeat being on the "no-fly" list - Crime Prevention Research Center
Congressman Tom McClintock recounts his own experience being on the âno-flyâ list. How was McClintock able to get around the ban that he faced on flying? He just had to fly under his middle name, which supposedly is âMiller.â Suppose that the IRA activist âthat the British government was mad atâ whose name was similar to McClintockâs had also started using his middle name and that it was âRichard.â If the federal government started trying to make sure that the person of interested couldnât go that route, then not only would people with the name âTom McClintockâ find themselves prevented from flying, but also people with the name âRichard McClintockâ or âRich McClintock.â
From McClintockâs speech on Thursday, December 10th, 2015:
âWhile serving in the California state Senate a decade ago, I discovered suddenly I couldnât check into a flight. When I asked why, I was told I was on this government list.
The experience was absolutely âKafkaesque.â My first reaction was to ask, âWhy am I on that list?â âWe canât tell you.â âWhat are the criteria you use?â âThatâs classified.â âHow can I get off this list?â âYou canât.â I soon discovered that another California state Senator had been placed on that list. A few months later US Senator Edward Kennedy found himself on the list. I at least had the office of sergeant-at-arms of the state Senate to work through, something an ordinary American would not. Even so it took months working through that office, with repeated petitions to the government to get my name removed from that list.
And the farce of it all was that I was advised in the meantime just to fly under my middle name, which I did without incident . . . .â