California Dreamin' bout LGBTQ

[Syriusly]

This is why religion sucks as it is nothing but a myth that drives people to mistreat other people.

Isn't giving children to people who cannot accept the sex they were born with, mistreating them?

Who is giving children away? Do they come with new car purchases?

Or are you perhaps talking about the legal adoption of children who were abandoned by their biological parents, and are in need of someone willing and able step up and be the parents that their own biological parents refused to be?

Approximately 100,000 children are available for adoption in the U.S. each year- and of those, some 30% will wait on average 5 years to be adopted.

Perhaps rather than worrying that if a gay person is willing to step up and adopt the child abandoned by their straight parents- maybe you should focus on finding able and willing parents for those children?

That's quite a story you made up. Dare I say FAIRYTALE.

George Harasz and Douglas Wirth, a married couple from Glastonbury, Conn., were arrested in November 2011 following allegations by two of their nine adopted children of sexual abuse. Yes, you read that correctly. Harasz and Wirth are “married” to each other. Some readers will already be used to this sort of absurdity; others will still stop and gasp, “What?” The case of a same-sex Connecticut couple accused of repeatedly raping and abusing two of their nine adopted boys is headed for trial.

And I am pleased that they were arrested and are heading to trial. But you provide this story as if this only happened because they are gay- and married.

Sadly the newspapers are full of stories of child molestation- not only by adoptive parents- but even by biological fathers and grandfathers. Marriage doesn't seem to put a damper on child molesters.

If you wanted to completely protect children against child molesters, then only women should be allowed to adopt. Because the statistics are clear- men are the child molesters- straight men, gay men- men.

Statistically speaking- the safest parents for a child (in terms of not being sexually molested) are two women parents.
Girl who escaped polygamous clan was raped and molested for years by her adoptive father | Daily Mail Online
'He sexually assaulted me while my mom slept next to us': Teen who escaped polygamous clan was raped for years by adoptive father after therapist recommended family sleep in the same bed

 

[Syriusly]

Got news for you.. You get TONS of volunteers and cross agency aid fighting your fires every year... Tenn is the VOLUNTEER STATE. We GO and do that..

....................... or maybe we don't....

Your State (Tenn.) will support you to go help California, but CA will not return the favor if Tenn. needs help!

Nothing prevents California volunteers from going to help Tennessee. There is no ban on Californians going to TN.

There is NOW! Thanks to your AG. Firefighters, who are employee's of the state are no longer able to be set to Tenn.

Volunteer fire fighters can certainly go.

Members of California Fire(formerly the CDF) are not volunteers and are employees of the state- and they can indeed be sent if there is a threat to public safety- as determined by Calfire.

Frequently Asked Questions (FAQs) - AB 1887
For the protection of public health, welfare, or safety, as determined by the affected agency, department, board, authority, or commission, or by the affected legislative office.

 

[Syriusly]

Hopefully, things are going well with their secession project.

LOL- there is no secession project.

The doofus who started it is living in Russia.

Coincidence?

 

[Syriusly]

LOL @ California.

If I am those states, I ban Imports of anything from California to those states.

Stupid...ban...in snowflake land.

Next California will try to sign it's own treaties with foreign nations...or the UN or something idiotic like that.

Did you miss Jerry Brown going to Beijing to sign an agreement on Climate Change?

Not at all. That is why I made the comment I did.
They should cede from The Union.....and we should force them to do it, /QUOTE]

Well that is interesting- exactly where in the Constitution do you find that provision?

 

[The Original Tree]

LOL @ California.

If I am those states, I ban Imports of anything from California to those states.

Stupid...ban...in snowflake land.

Next California will try to sign it's own treaties with foreign nations...or the UN or something idiotic like that.

Did you miss Jerry Brown going to Beijing to sign an agreement on Climate Change?

Not at all. That is why I made the comment I did.
They should cede from The Union.....and we should force them to do it, /QUOTE]

Well that is interesting- exactly where in the Constitution do you find that provision?

The same phucking place that says you can IGNORE FEDERAL LAW and create Sanctuary Cities and harbor illegal aliens, illegally provide them drivers licenses, and issue STATE TRAVEL BANS to other STATES in THE USA. The same phucking place that states The President cannot write executive orders and ban travel from certain nations for a perioed of time.

But Lefty never did respect THE LAW nor understand it.

Exile California Now!

Laws?
We don't need no stinking laws...

 

[THAI EXPAT]

This is why religion sucks as it is nothing but a myth that drives people to mistreat other people.

Isn't giving children to people who cannot accept the sex they were born with, mistreating them?

Who is giving children away? Do they come with new car purchases?

Or are you perhaps talking about the legal adoption of children who were abandoned by their biological parents, and are in need of someone willing and able step up and be the parents that their own biological parents refused to be?

Approximately 100,000 children are available for adoption in the U.S. each year- and of those, some 30% will wait on average 5 years to be adopted.

Perhaps rather than worrying that if a gay person is willing to step up and adopt the child abandoned by their straight parents- maybe you should focus on finding able and willing parents for those children?

That's quite a story you made up. Dare I say FAIRYTALE.

The rate of Overseas adoptions continues to drop, because of misbehavior, but there is an open market on babies. $25-$50 thousand and more is the selling price. The market far exceeds supply for children..

'Open Market'?

Waiting time for an adoption overseas is over a year- and prospective parents have to wade through paperwork there also- the biggest(and really main advantage) over adopting overseas are twofold:
a) parents are able to adopt infants (short in supply in the U.S.) and
b) parents can adopt from overseas with more confidence that the birth mother will not change her mind(a big concern among adoptive parents in the U.S.).

Meanwhile- in any given year there are over 100,000 kids in America awaiting adoption.

You want to reduce the pool of people who are able and willing to adopt these kids abandoned by their biological parents.

Why?

Anosognosia is quite different. It is not simply denial of a problem, but the genuine inability to recognize that the problem exists. It is a common consequence of brain injuries, and occurs to varying degrees in such disorders such as schizophrenia, bipolar disorder, and Alzheimer's disease. (I hasten to add that "common" does not mean "universal!" Most people who suffer from these illnesses are quite aware that they are sick.)

Someone who has anosognosia isn't being difficult, or refusing to face the truth. He is literally unable to believe that his illness is, in fact, an illness. As a result, he does not see any reason to take medication that can control his illness. Many people who have anosognosia will refuse to take medication for schizophrenia or bipolar disorder, because they do not believe they are ill. If pushed, they may give the appearance of cooperation, while secretly discarding their medication.

 

[THAI EXPAT]

This is why religion sucks as it is nothing but a myth that drives people to mistreat other people.

Isn't giving children to people who cannot accept the sex they were born with, mistreating them?

Who is giving children away? Do they come with new car purchases?

Or are you perhaps talking about the legal adoption of children who were abandoned by their biological parents, and are in need of someone willing and able step up and be the parents that their own biological parents refused to be?

Approximately 100,000 children are available for adoption in the U.S. each year- and of those, some 30% will wait on average 5 years to be adopted.

Perhaps rather than worrying that if a gay person is willing to step up and adopt the child abandoned by their straight parents- maybe you should focus on finding able and willing parents for those children?

That's quite a story you made up. Dare I say FAIRYTALE.

The rate of Overseas adoptions continues to drop, because of misbehavior, but there is an open market on babies. $25-$50 thousand and more is the selling price. The market far exceeds supply for children..

'Open Market'?

Waiting time for an adoption overseas is over a year- and prospective parents have to wade through paperwork there also- the biggest(and really main advantage) over adopting overseas are twofold:
a) parents are able to adopt infants (short in supply in the U.S.) and
b) parents can adopt from overseas with more confidence that the birth mother will not change her mind(a big concern among adoptive parents in the U.S.).

Meanwhile- in any given year there are over 100,000 kids in America awaiting adoption.

You want to reduce the pool of people who are able and willing to adopt these kids abandoned by their biological parents.

Why?

Anosognosia is quite different. It is not simply denial of a problem, but the genuine inability to recognize that the problem exists. It is a common consequence of brain injuries, and occurs to varying degrees in such disorders such as schizophrenia, bipolar disorder, and Alzheimer's disease. (I hasten to add that "common" does not mean "universal!" Most people who suffer from these illnesses are quite aware that they are sick.)

Someone who has anosognosia isn't being difficult, or refusing to face the truth. He is literally unable to believe that his illness is, in fact, an illness. As a result, he does not see any reason to take medication that can control his illness. Many people who have anosognosia will refuse to take medication for schizophrenia or bipolar disorder, because they do not believe they are ill. If pushed, they may give the appearance of cooperation, while secretly discarding their medication.

GAY Anosognosia: Wow.......so its okay if PC politicians condemn children to a STRAIGHT lifestyle?

 

[flacaltenn]

Got news for you.. You get TONS of volunteers and cross agency aid fighting your fires every year... Tenn is the VOLUNTEER STATE. We GO and do that..

....................... or maybe we don't....

Your State (Tenn.) will support you to go help California, but CA will not return the favor if Tenn. needs help!

Nothing prevents California volunteers from going to help Tennessee. There is no ban on Californians going to TN.

Not true. They VOLUNTEER -- but the state ALLOWS them their work equipment and defrays travel. They are LARGELY State Employees. Have fun fighting fires this season. Good luck..

 

[flacaltenn]

This is why religion sucks as it is nothing but a myth that drives people to mistreat other people.

Isn't giving children to people who cannot accept the sex they were born with, mistreating them?

Who is giving children away? Do they come with new car purchases?

Or are you perhaps talking about the legal adoption of children who were abandoned by their biological parents, and are in need of someone willing and able step up and be the parents that their own biological parents refused to be?

Approximately 100,000 children are available for adoption in the U.S. each year- and of those, some 30% will wait on average 5 years to be adopted.

Perhaps rather than worrying that if a gay person is willing to step up and adopt the child abandoned by their straight parents- maybe you should focus on finding able and willing parents for those children?

That's quite a story you made up. Dare I say FAIRYTALE.

The rate of Overseas adoptions continues to drop, because of misbehavior, but there is an open market on babies. $25-$50 thousand and more is the selling price. The market far exceeds supply for children..

'Open Market'?

Waiting time for an adoption overseas is over a year- and prospective parents have to wade through paperwork there also- the biggest(and really main advantage) over adopting overseas are twofold:
a) parents are able to adopt infants (short in supply in the U.S.) and
b) parents can adopt from overseas with more confidence that the birth mother will not change her mind(a big concern among adoptive parents in the U.S.).

Meanwhile- in any given year there are over 100,000 kids in America awaiting adoption.

You want to reduce the pool of people who are able and willing to adopt these kids abandoned by their biological parents.

Why?

What's all that got to do with a state making any other State -- off limits to government employees? Tenn kids get adopted. There's no crisis because the LGBTQ community has NEVER BEEN a large percentage of adoptions.

Let's get back to the draconian act of OUTLAWING travel to another state.

 

[Syriusly]

This is why religion sucks as it is nothing but a myth that drives people to mistreat other people.

Isn't giving children to people who cannot accept the sex they were born with, mistreating them?

Who is giving children away? Do they come with new car purchases?

Or are you perhaps talking about the legal adoption of children who were abandoned by their biological parents, and are in need of someone willing and able step up and be the parents that their own biological parents refused to be?

Approximately 100,000 children are available for adoption in the U.S. each year- and of those, some 30% will wait on average 5 years to be adopted.

Perhaps rather than worrying that if a gay person is willing to step up and adopt the child abandoned by their straight parents- maybe you should focus on finding able and willing parents for those children?

That's quite a story you made up. Dare I say FAIRYTALE.

The rate of Overseas adoptions continues to drop, because of misbehavior, but there is an open market on babies. $25-$50 thousand and more is the selling price. The market far exceeds supply for children..

'Open Market'?

Waiting time for an adoption overseas is over a year- and prospective parents have to wade through paperwork there also- the biggest(and really main advantage) over adopting overseas are twofold:
a) parents are able to adopt infants (short in supply in the U.S.) and
b) parents can adopt from overseas with more confidence that the birth mother will not change her mind(a big concern among adoptive parents in the U.S.).

Meanwhile- in any given year there are over 100,000 kids in America awaiting adoption.

You want to reduce the pool of people who are able and willing to adopt these kids abandoned by their biological parents.

Why?

What's all that got to do with a state making any other State -- off limits to government employees? Tenn kids get adopted. There's no crisis because the LGBTQ community has NEVER BEEN a large percentage of adoptions.
.

You tell me- Thai Expat was the one who decided to try to make an issue about gays adopting the kids abandoned by their biological parents.

Most Tennessee kids do get adopted- eventually- but not all of them.

Home

Across Tennessee

There are slightly less than 8,000 children in foster care.

There are less than 4,000 foster families willing to provide homes for foster children.

Less than 50% of foster children are placed with a relative and either participate in a group setting or stay with a foster parent.

The opioid epidemic in Tennessee has caused a significant increase in the number of children entering the system and having parental rights terminated. The State has the 2nd highest rate of opioid prescriptions in the nation.

Since 2010 there has been a 51% increase in the number of parents whose parental rights have been terminated. In the same time period, there has been a 56% increase in the number of children waiting to be adopted.

According to data from 2014, there are currently 864 children permanently residing in foster care where parental rights have been terminated. These children remain in foster care until they turn 18, unless adopted.

Children over 8 years of age who are available for adoption have a 20% chance of being adopted, and most face 10 more years in the foster care system before aging out.

That is 864 children that could use more willing and able adoptive parents- not fewer.

At 3% of the population the LGBT community will never be a 'huge' portion of adoptive parents- but if they provide even 1 good home one of those kids- that is a win for everyone

 

[Syriusly]

This is why religion sucks as it is nothing but a myth that drives people to mistreat other people.

Isn't giving children to people who cannot accept the sex they were born with, mistreating them?

Who is giving children away? Do they come with new car purchases?

Or are you perhaps talking about the legal adoption of children who were abandoned by their biological parents, and are in need of someone willing and able step up and be the parents that their own biological parents refused to be?

Approximately 100,000 children are available for adoption in the U.S. each year- and of those, some 30% will wait on average 5 years to be adopted.

Perhaps rather than worrying that if a gay person is willing to step up and adopt the child abandoned by their straight parents- maybe you should focus on finding able and willing parents for those children?

That's quite a story you made up. Dare I say FAIRYTALE.

The rate of Overseas adoptions continues to drop, because of misbehavior, but there is an open market on babies. $25-$50 thousand and more is the selling price. The market far exceeds supply for children..

'Open Market'?

Waiting time for an adoption overseas is over a year- and prospective parents have to wade through paperwork there also- the biggest(and really main advantage) over adopting overseas are twofold:
a) parents are able to adopt infants (short in supply in the U.S.) and
b) parents can adopt from overseas with more confidence that the birth mother will not change her mind(a big concern among adoptive parents in the U.S.).

Meanwhile- in any given year there are over 100,000 kids in America awaiting adoption.

You want to reduce the pool of people who are able and willing to adopt these kids abandoned by their biological parents.

Why?

Let's get back to the draconian act of OUTLAWING travel to another state.

What is 'draconian' about an employer putting restrictions on employee travel?

Not as if the State of California is 'outlawing' travel for American citizens- say to Cuba- now that would be 'draconian'.

 

[Syriusly]

Got news for you.. You get TONS of volunteers and cross agency aid fighting your fires every year... Tenn is the VOLUNTEER STATE. We GO and do that..

....................... or maybe we don't....

Your State (Tenn.) will support you to go help California, but CA will not return the favor if Tenn. needs help!

Nothing prevents California volunteers from going to help Tennessee. There is no ban on Californians going to TN.

Not true. They VOLUNTEER -- but the state ALLOWS them their work equipment and defrays travel. They are LARGELY State Employees. Have fun fighting fires this season. Good luck..

Well I spent two summers fighting fires in California- its not really fun. A bit of an adrenalin rush filled with hours of boredom.

And again- there are multiple types of fire fighters in California(excluding federal firefighters)

• Volunteers- they generally belong to local volunteer fire fighting organizations- which can volunteer to go fight fires outside of the state(within the state they are part of a cooperative system)
• City and County Firefighters- LA County has one of the largest fire departments in the country- they are not state workers and can be sent wherever the City or County decides.
• State Fire Fighters- Calfire- they are the only state fire fighters- they do get sent to other states when the governor decides they need to go CAL FIRE - Home they are paid to go- generally paid quite well actually- and while the local stations might allow individuals to volunteer, the deployments are not voluntary.

And of course California law specifically allows workers to be sent to states for safety reasons.

So what is the problem again?

 

[Syriusly]

This is why religion sucks as it is nothing but a myth that drives people to mistreat other people.

Isn't giving children to people who cannot accept the sex they were born with, mistreating them?

Who is giving children away? Do they come with new car purchases?

Or are you perhaps talking about the legal adoption of children who were abandoned by their biological parents, and are in need of someone willing and able step up and be the parents that their own biological parents refused to be?

Approximately 100,000 children are available for adoption in the U.S. each year- and of those, some 30% will wait on average 5 years to be adopted.

Perhaps rather than worrying that if a gay person is willing to step up and adopt the child abandoned by their straight parents- maybe you should focus on finding able and willing parents for those children?

That's quite a story you made up. Dare I say FAIRYTALE.

The rate of Overseas adoptions continues to drop, because of misbehavior, but there is an open market on babies. $25-$50 thousand and more is the selling price. The market far exceeds supply for children..

'Open Market'?

Waiting time for an adoption overseas is over a year- and prospective parents have to wade through paperwork there also- the biggest(and really main advantage) over adopting overseas are twofold:
a) parents are able to adopt infants (short in supply in the U.S.) and
b) parents can adopt from overseas with more confidence that the birth mother will not change her mind(a big concern among adoptive parents in the U.S.).

Meanwhile- in any given year there are over 100,000 kids in America awaiting adoption.

You want to reduce the pool of people who are able and willing to adopt these kids abandoned by their biological parents.

Why?

Anosognosia is quite different. It is not simply denial of a problem, but the genuine inability to recognize that the problem exists. It is a common consequence of brain injuries, and occurs to varying degrees in such disorders such as schizophrenia, bipolar disorder, and Alzheimer's disease. (I hasten to add that "common" does not mean "universal!" Most people who suffer from these illnesses are quite aware that they are sick.)

Someone who has anosognosia isn't being difficult, or refusing to face the truth. He is literally unable to believe that his illness is, in fact, an illness. As a result, he does not see any reason to take medication that can control his illness. Many people who have anosognosia will refuse to take medication for schizophrenia or bipolar disorder, because they do not believe they are ill. If pushed, they may give the appearance of cooperation, while secretly discarding their medication.

Hmmm lots of words for you to just dodge my question- guess my question is too threatening for you to answer

Open Market'?

Waiting time for an adoption overseas is over a year- and prospective parents have to wade through paperwork there also- the biggest(and really main advantage) over adopting overseas are twofold:
a) parents are able to adopt infants (short in supply in the U.S.) and
b) parents can adopt from overseas with more confidence that the birth mother will not change her mind(a big concern among adoptive parents in the U.S.).

Meanwhile- in any given year there are over 100,000 kids in America awaiting adoption.

You want to reduce the pool of people who are able and willing to adopt these kids abandoned by their biological parents.

Why?

 

[Syriusly]

Laws?
We don't need no stinking laws...

Clearly you think you don't- since you want to ignore the Constitution.

 

[Syriusly]

This is why religion sucks as it is nothing but a myth that drives people to mistreat other people.

Isn't giving children to people who cannot accept the sex they were born with, mistreating them?

Who is giving children away? Do they come with new car purchases?

Or are you perhaps talking about the legal adoption of children who were abandoned by their biological parents, and are in need of someone willing and able step up and be the parents that their own biological parents refused to be?

Approximately 100,000 children are available for adoption in the U.S. each year- and of those, some 30% will wait on average 5 years to be adopted.

Perhaps rather than worrying that if a gay person is willing to step up and adopt the child abandoned by their straight parents- maybe you should focus on finding able and willing parents for those children?

That's quite a story you made up. Dare I say FAIRYTALE.

The rate of Overseas adoptions continues to drop, because of misbehavior, but there is an open market on babies. $25-$50 thousand and more is the selling price. The market far exceeds supply for children..

'Open Market'?

Waiting time for an adoption overseas is over a year- and prospective parents have to wade through paperwork there also- the biggest(and really main advantage) over adopting overseas are twofold:
a) parents are able to adopt infants (short in supply in the U.S.) and
b) parents can adopt from overseas with more confidence that the birth mother will not change her mind(a big concern among adoptive parents in the U.S.).

Meanwhile- in any given year there are over 100,000 kids in America awaiting adoption.

You want to reduce the pool of people who are able and willing to adopt these kids abandoned by their biological parents.

Why?

What's all that got to do with a state making any other State -- off limits to government employees? Tenn kids get adopted. There's no crisis because the LGBTQ community has NEVER BEEN a large percentage of adoptions.

Let's get back to the draconian act of OUTLAWING travel to another state.

Still waiting for you to explain how the State of California restricting travel of its employees is tyranny- but the United States restricting American citizens to Cuba is not tyranny.

LOL- so you agree that Trump is a dictator- and that the United States is a fascist government? Right?

Look at you dance away- I pointed out that your claim that
(Flacal)"only repressive dictatorships were THAT concerned over where their citizens travel."

And i pointed out that the United States- under Trump- does exactly that

And you dance away.

I pointed out that there is California is not concerned where our citizens travel- but on paying for employees travel with state funds

And you dance away.

If you want to call California's restrictions on employee travel to be 'fascism' then you are a hypocrite if you don't also consider the United State's a fascist government for our restrictions on not only employee travel, but on citizen's travel.

Tell us again how Brown is a dictator but Trump is not a repressive dictator- after you said:
only repressive dictatorships were THAT concerned over where their citizens travel.

 

[flacaltenn]

Isn't giving children to people who cannot accept the sex they were born with, mistreating them?

Who is giving children away? Do they come with new car purchases?

Or are you perhaps talking about the legal adoption of children who were abandoned by their biological parents, and are in need of someone willing and able step up and be the parents that their own biological parents refused to be?

Approximately 100,000 children are available for adoption in the U.S. each year- and of those, some 30% will wait on average 5 years to be adopted.

Perhaps rather than worrying that if a gay person is willing to step up and adopt the child abandoned by their straight parents- maybe you should focus on finding able and willing parents for those children?

That's quite a story you made up. Dare I say FAIRYTALE.

The rate of Overseas adoptions continues to drop, because of misbehavior, but there is an open market on babies. $25-$50 thousand and more is the selling price. The market far exceeds supply for children..

'Open Market'?

Waiting time for an adoption overseas is over a year- and prospective parents have to wade through paperwork there also- the biggest(and really main advantage) over adopting overseas are twofold:
a) parents are able to adopt infants (short in supply in the U.S.) and
b) parents can adopt from overseas with more confidence that the birth mother will not change her mind(a big concern among adoptive parents in the U.S.).

Meanwhile- in any given year there are over 100,000 kids in America awaiting adoption.

You want to reduce the pool of people who are able and willing to adopt these kids abandoned by their biological parents.

Why?

Let's get back to the draconian act of OUTLAWING travel to another state.

What is 'draconian' about an employer putting restrictions on employee travel?

Not as if the State of California is 'outlawing' travel for American citizens- say to Cuba- now that would be 'draconian'.

Here you are using a PROBABLY UNCONSTITUTIONAL LAW to lecture people on adoptions. It can't get more absurd than that. And I don't waste time in the absurd. Especially when your Prog brain can't process the difference between FOREIGN travel and InterState Travel. You are just kinda messed up and wrapped around all 4 axles.

Freedom of movement under United States law - Wikipedia


The U.S. Supreme Court also dealt with the right to travel in the case of Saenz v. Roe, 526 U.S. 489 (1999). In that case, Justice John Paul Stevens, writing for the majority, held that the United States Constitution protected three separate aspects of the right to travel among the states: the right to enter one state and leave another, the right to be treated as a welcome visitor rather than a hostile stranger (protected by the "privileges and immunities" clause in Article IV, § 2), and (for those who become permanent residents of a state) the right to be treated equally to native born citizens (this is protected by the 14th Amendment's Citizenship Clause).

A strong right to freedom of movement may yet have even farther-reaching implications. The Supreme Court has acknowledged that freedom of movement is closely related to freedom of association and to freedom of expression. Strong constitutional protection for the right to travel may have significant implications for state attempts to limit abortion rights, ban or refuse to recognize same-sex marriage, and enact anti-crime or consumer protection laws. It may even undermine current Court-fashioned concepts of federalism.[14][15][16][17][18]

The U.S. Supreme Court also dealt with the right to travel in the case of Saenz v. Roe, 526 U.S. 489 (1999). In that case, Justice John Paul Stevens, writing for the majority, held that the United States Constitution protected three separate aspects of the right to travel among the states: the right to enter one state and leave another, the right to be treated as a welcome visitor rather than a hostile stranger (protected by the "privileges and immunities" clause in Article IV, § 2), and (for those who become permanent residents of a state) the right to be treated equally to native born citizens (this is protected by the 14th Amendment's Citizenship Clause).

Yeah DRACONIAN.. And childish. If a Cali State employee books a flight that stops in Dallas -FT Worth and buys a beer and a pizza and tries to put it on his expense account -- is he/she gonna be prosecuted?

How far you wanna take this Leftist Street Theater protest????

 

[ScienceRocks]

The states attack Trans and Gays is what is the real tyranny. It makes no sense either and it is done out of hatred.

This is something Saudi Arabia would do.

It is called standing up for human rights and I am proud of Califorina. I wish Governor Brown of Oregon would join in this.

 

[ScienceRocks]

Weird how standing up against fascism is tyranny to you people, but somehow doing the repressive behavior isn't. Shows who you're.

 

[Syriusly]

Who is giving children away? Do they come with new car purchases?

Or are you perhaps talking about the legal adoption of children who were abandoned by their biological parents, and are in need of someone willing and able step up and be the parents that their own biological parents refused to be?

Approximately 100,000 children are available for adoption in the U.S. each year- and of those, some 30% will wait on average 5 years to be adopted.

Perhaps rather than worrying that if a gay person is willing to step up and adopt the child abandoned by their straight parents- maybe you should focus on finding able and willing parents for those children?

That's quite a story you made up. Dare I say FAIRYTALE.

The rate of Overseas adoptions continues to drop, because of misbehavior, but there is an open market on babies. $25-$50 thousand and more is the selling price. The market far exceeds supply for children..

'Open Market'?

Waiting time for an adoption overseas is over a year- and prospective parents have to wade through paperwork there also- the biggest(and really main advantage) over adopting overseas are twofold:
a) parents are able to adopt infants (short in supply in the U.S.) and
b) parents can adopt from overseas with more confidence that the birth mother will not change her mind(a big concern among adoptive parents in the U.S.).

Meanwhile- in any given year there are over 100,000 kids in America awaiting adoption.

You want to reduce the pool of people who are able and willing to adopt these kids abandoned by their biological parents.

Why?

Let's get back to the draconian act of OUTLAWING travel to another state.

What is 'draconian' about an employer putting restrictions on employee travel?

Not as if the State of California is 'outlawing' travel for American citizens- say to Cuba- now that would be 'draconian'.

Here you are using a PROBABLY UNCONSTITUTIONAL LAW to lecture people on adoptions. It can't get more absurd than that. And I don't waste time in the absurd. Especially when your Prog brain can't process the difference between FOREIGN travel and InterState Travel. You are just kinda messed up and wrapped around all 4 axles.

Freedom of movement under United States law - Wikipedia

Really?

What is 'unconstitutional' about a state restricting the travel of state employees?

Citizens have 'freedom of movement' within the United States without a doubt. Employees of States do not have the 'freedom to travel' at will on their employer's dime.

And you clearly do waste your time in the absurd.

Since you are the one who said:

only repressive dictatorships were THAT concerned over where their citizens travel.

And have carefully avoided addressing how Trump is that concerned over where our citizens travel.

 

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Attacking ones civil rights in the case of gays and trans is a lot more unconstitutional.

An employer not wishing to do business with states that attack such certainly isn't.