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There is a basic conundrum that all politicians must face: The more you do to help people in need, the more people NOT in need will take advantage of the help. And the people who are truly in need will often be pushed aside because they are not smart enough to access the help. And SOMEBODY has to pay for all this...that SOMEBODY being those who are productive.
California constantly tries to make life better for homeless people and poor people. Further, it has a climate that makes it attractive to homeless people.
California is home to many "industries" that are able to generate mountains of revenues and profits from near-worthless crap, so it has a HUGE tax base from which to fund its social safety net.
It's fun to watch.
California has 5 million poor people, that's more then all the poor in Mississippi, Alabama, Arkansas, Louisiana combined
Bear... the Big money got a tax break 7 years ago in San Francisco to Trickle down the $$ which didn't happen.
So the Mega rich kicked the poor to the curb and tore affordable housing down to build 3 million dollar an apartment Hi- Rises.
The poor were pushed out into the streets..
This is what Trickle Down does ..
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What they got a California tax cut???.
They have been doing the same in Chicago for a while I remember before I left I went into an old run down neighborhood where I used to buy my drugs in my youth
Back then it was trash , guns and crime everywhere...but in 2003 it looked like a Lilly white suburb
Yep, most every city will bring in the wealthy pushing the low income out.. now California is probably the state people come to because it is tolerable to live outside..
BTW: The shelters have a 9 month waiting list while the mega rich buy $30.00 hamburgers and ship in people by bus to clean their toilets and teach their children..
Watch what happens with this top 1% tax cut Bear...Trickle Down doesn't work.
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Nothing. They just think it sounds better.is just nuts. Nutty nutty libtards.
California Dems propose surcharge on businesses to fund social programs
Lawmakers from California have proposed a bill that would compel companies making more than $1 million to turn over half their tax-cut savings to the state in order to fund programs that support low-income and middle-class families.
Why do they always name middle class? What the heck do we get out of it?
Maybe they need to help the poor that the mega rich kicked out of their affordable housing to build 3 million dollar a apartment Hi-Rises.
I do not agree with the far left in our Calif. government right now, but the poor is our problem and in our community.
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Cali is barreling towards insolvency....the end result of left economics. See Illinois as another prime example.
It's time to wake up and smell the coffee the policy does not work and blaming the rich is asinine and a lame left wing talking point
No , you don't live in Silicon Valley so you do not see it.. Facebook, Apple, Google and the other big companies here can pay more taxes just like I do.. and will not leave.
But these far lefties laws are making me angry..
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Any business with a lick of business sense will leave when it begins to hit the bottom line.
Nope, this area is the new Gold Rush of our time... we will see what happens .. But I doubt anyone will leave unless if we have a big earthquake.
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They're already leaving...maybe not APP, FB and Goog but others are
Cali is barreling towards insolvency....the end result of left economics. See Illinois as another prime example.
It's time to wake up and smell the coffee the policy does not work and blaming the rich is asinine and a lame left wing talking point
No , you don't live in Silicon Valley so you do not see it.. Facebook, Apple, Google and the other big companies here can pay more taxes just like I do.. and will not leave.
But these far lefties laws are making me angry..
.
Any business with a lick of business sense will leave when it begins to hit the bottom line.
Nope, this area is the new Gold Rush of our time... we will see what happens .. But I doubt anyone will leave unless if we have a big earthquake.
.
They're already leaving...maybe not APP, FB and Goog but others are
Well seriously, these people in the mom and pop startups can not afford to live here.. many fail .
They keep building million dollar apartments but do not help build any new schools, roads, freeways, cops, firemen, parks or anything else. We are bursting at the seams.. Glad my kids graduated before the boom..
.
There is a basic conundrum that all politicians must face: The more you do to help people in need, the more people NOT in need will take advantage of the help. And the people who are truly in need will often be pushed aside because they are not smart enough to access the help. And SOMEBODY has to pay for all this...that SOMEBODY being those who are productive.
California constantly tries to make life better for homeless people and poor people. Further, it has a climate that makes it attractive to homeless people.
California is home to many "industries" that are able to generate mountains of revenues and profits from near-worthless crap, so it has a HUGE tax base from which to fund its social safety net.
It's fun to watch.
California has 5 million poor people, that's more then all the poor in Mississippi, Alabama, Arkansas, Louisiana combined
Bear... the Big money got a tax break 7 years ago in San Francisco to Trickle down the $$ which didn't happen.
So the Mega rich kicked the poor to the curb and tore affordable housing down to build 3 million dollar an apartment Hi- Rises.
The poor were pushed out into the streets..
This is what Trickle Down does ..
.
What they got a California tax cut???.
They have been doing the same in Chicago for a while I remember before I left I went into an old run down neighborhood where I used to buy my drugs in my youth
Back then it was trash , guns and crime everywhere...but in 2003 it looked like a Lilly white suburb
Yep, most every city will bring in the wealthy pushing the low income out.. now California is probably the state people come to because it is tolerable to live outside..
BTW: The shelters have a 9 month waiting list while the mega rich buy $30.00 hamburgers and ship in people by bus to clean their toilets and teach their children..
Watch what happens with this top 1% tax cut Bear...Trickle Down doesn't work.
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That's not trickle down, trickle down has to do with companys, producing innovations and jobs ...thats the theory anyways.
Uh oh thinking about it some more you may be right and I am wrong.
No , you don't live in Silicon Valley so you do not see it.. Facebook, Apple, Google and the other big companies here can pay more taxes just like I do.. and will not leave.
But these far lefties laws are making me angry..
.
Any business with a lick of business sense will leave when it begins to hit the bottom line.
Nope, this area is the new Gold Rush of our time... we will see what happens .. But I doubt anyone will leave unless if we have a big earthquake.
.
They're already leaving...maybe not APP, FB and Goog but others are
Well seriously, these people in the mom and pop startups can not afford to live here.. many fail .
They keep building million dollar apartments but do not help build any new schools, roads, freeways, cops, firemen, parks or anything else. We are bursting at the seams.. Glad my kids graduated before the boom..
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That reminds me even in Chicago before I left I read so many story's about senior citizens owning their own homes but had to move because they couldn't afford the property tax, but I thought California capped them?
I`m still quoting it because it`s still true. Why do righties want free stuff all the time?You still quoting that bullshit? Lol, get a life.How much did the right squander on 2 senseless wars (one which was started with lies)? Now you want a wall to cower behind.This is leftism, they tax and tax and tax, spend and spend and spend then it hits a breaking point and people say fuck you.
Then the left sits there and scratches their asses wondering why
Any business with a lick of business sense will leave when it begins to hit the bottom line.
Nope, this area is the new Gold Rush of our time... we will see what happens .. But I doubt anyone will leave unless if we have a big earthquake.
.
They're already leaving...maybe not APP, FB and Goog but others are
Well seriously, these people in the mom and pop startups can not afford to live here.. many fail .
They keep building million dollar apartments but do not help build any new schools, roads, freeways, cops, firemen, parks or anything else. We are bursting at the seams.. Glad my kids graduated before the boom..
.
That reminds me even in Chicago before I left I read so many story's about senior citizens owning their own homes but had to move because they couldn't afford the property tax, but I thought California capped them?
My taxes go up to help the schools , and community..
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I`m still quoting it because it`s still true. Why do righties want free stuff all the time?You still quoting that bullshit? Lol, get a life.How much did the right squander on 2 senseless wars (one which was started with lies)? Now you want a wall to cower behind.This is leftism, they tax and tax and tax, spend and spend and spend then it hits a breaking point and people say fuck you.
Then the left sits there and scratches their asses wondering why
That was debunked years ago. Republicans pay for the stuff you receive for free.I`m still quoting it because it`s still true. Why do righties want free stuff all the time?You still quoting that bullshit? Lol, get a life.How much did the right squander on 2 senseless wars (one which was started with lies)? Now you want a wall to cower behind.This is leftism, they tax and tax and tax, spend and spend and spend then it hits a breaking point and people say fuck you.
Then the left sits there and scratches their asses wondering why
Nope, this area is the new Gold Rush of our time... we will see what happens .. But I doubt anyone will leave unless if we have a big earthquake.
.
They're already leaving...maybe not APP, FB and Goog but others are
Well seriously, these people in the mom and pop startups can not afford to live here.. many fail .
They keep building million dollar apartments but do not help build any new schools, roads, freeways, cops, firemen, parks or anything else. We are bursting at the seams.. Glad my kids graduated before the boom..
.
That reminds me even in Chicago before I left I read so many story's about senior citizens owning their own homes but had to move because they couldn't afford the property tax, but I thought California capped them?
My taxes go up to help the schools , and community..
.
That's what they want you to believe, I know you and your husband is kind of rich, you put kids going to college you just bought a cool looking car (a trade up from your soccer mom van days) you spend your time helping people ...
But in reality you are paying taxes for huge public pensions
When city retirement pays better than the job
When city retirement pays better than the job
One in four El Monte residents lives in poverty. Yet taxpayers pay a steep price to fund bonus pensions and other perks for city workers.
The retired city manager of El Monte collects more than $216,000 a year, plus cost-of-living increases and fully paid health insurance.
“It’s giving me an opportunity to do a number of things I didn’t get to do when I was younger, like travel to Europe, take some things off my bucket list,” Mussenden, 66, said recently. He even flew to Scotland to play the famed Old Course at St. Andrews, a mecca for golf enthusiasts.
Mussenden recognizes that few Americans have pensions anymore — least of all the El Monte taxpayers who are funding his retirement. So while he enjoys his monthly retirement check, he’s discreet about it.
“The guys I play golf with, they get very angry about my pension because they don’t have anything like it,” he said.
Actually, Mussenden has twopensions. He’s part of a coterie of former El Monte civil servants who receive one taxpayer-funded pension through the California Public Employees’ Retirement System (CalPERS) — and a second through a “supplemental” plan approved by the city council in 2000.
The extra pensions, along with other sweeteners granted to El Monte employees over the years, have created one of the heaviest public pension burdens of any city in California, a Los Angeles Times investigation found.
El Monte’s retirement costs totaled $16.5 million this year. That’s equal to 28% of the city’s general fund. Among California’s 10 largest cities, only San Jose paid as much toward retirement costs relative to its general fund. Los Angeles spends 20% of its general fund on retirement costs.
Nope, this area is the new Gold Rush of our time... we will see what happens .. But I doubt anyone will leave unless if we have a big earthquake.
.
They're already leaving...maybe not APP, FB and Goog but others are
Well seriously, these people in the mom and pop startups can not afford to live here.. many fail .
They keep building million dollar apartments but do not help build any new schools, roads, freeways, cops, firemen, parks or anything else. We are bursting at the seams.. Glad my kids graduated before the boom..
.
That reminds me even in Chicago before I left I read so many story's about senior citizens owning their own homes but had to move because they couldn't afford the property tax, but I thought California capped them?
My taxes go up to help the schools , and community..
.
That's what they want you to believe, I know you and your husband is kind of rich, you put kids going to college you just bought a cool looking car (a trade up from your soccer mom van days) you spend your time helping people ...
But in reality you are paying taxes for huge public pensions
When city retirement pays better than the job
When city retirement pays better than the job
One in four El Monte residents lives in poverty. Yet taxpayers pay a steep price to fund bonus pensions and other perks for city workers.
The retired city manager of El Monte collects more than $216,000 a year, plus cost-of-living increases and fully paid health insurance.
“It’s giving me an opportunity to do a number of things I didn’t get to do when I was younger, like travel to Europe, take some things off my bucket list,” Mussenden, 66, said recently. He even flew to Scotland to play the famed Old Course at St. Andrews, a mecca for golf enthusiasts.
Mussenden recognizes that few Americans have pensions anymore — least of all the El Monte taxpayers who are funding his retirement. So while he enjoys his monthly retirement check, he’s discreet about it.
“The guys I play golf with, they get very angry about my pension because they don’t have anything like it,” he said.
Actually, Mussenden has twopensions. He’s part of a coterie of former El Monte civil servants who receive one taxpayer-funded pension through the California Public Employees’ Retirement System (CalPERS) — and a second through a “supplemental” plan approved by the city council in 2000.
The extra pensions, along with other sweeteners granted to El Monte employees over the years, have created one of the heaviest public pension burdens of any city in California, a Los Angeles Times investigation found.
El Monte’s retirement costs totaled $16.5 million this year. That’s equal to 28% of the city’s general fund. Among California’s 10 largest cities, only San Jose paid as much toward retirement costs relative to its general fund. Los Angeles spends 20% of its general fund on retirement costs.
LOL Keep it up California and every business making more than one million will leave your shit hole state
All of those companies will leave the state.
In response to Trumps tax cut bill, these idiots are actually going to increase taxes on business. There's no stupid like California liberal stupid.
California Democrats want businesses to give half their tax-cut savings to state
California lawmakers are targeting the expected windfall that companies in the state would see under the federal tax overhaul with a bill that would require businesses to turn over half to the state.
A proposed Assembly Constitutional Amendment by Assemblymen Kevin McCarty, D-Sacramento, and Phil Ting, D-San Francisco, would create a tax surcharge on California companies making more than $1 million so that half of their federal tax cut would instead go to programs that benefit low-income and middle-class families.
“Trump’s tax reform plan was nothing more than a middle-class tax increase,” Ting said in a statement. “It is unconscionable to force working families to pay the price for tax breaks and loopholes benefiting corporations and wealthy individuals. This bill will help blunt the impact of the federal tax plan on everyday Californians by protecting funding for education, affordable health care, and other core priorities.”
As a constitutional amendment, the bill would require approval from two-thirds of the Legislature to pass, a difficult hurdle now that Democrats have lost their supermajority. If passed and signed by Gov. Jerry Brown, it would then go to voters for final approval.
Fucking California thinks they run America, we really got to get those assholes out of the Union
