BREAKING! Obama not a citizen! Inaguration CANCELED!

Actually, he couldn't even fix it then. He went to Pakistan on an Indonesian passport at the age of 20, past the age of majority for Americans to determine their citizenship and Indonesia doesn't accept duel citizenship which means that at that time he gave up American citizenship, if he ever had it.

I do not understand the Obama worshipers that just ignore that fact, but then again, I never understood the Clinton worshipers or the Bush worshipers either.

I keep seeing you say this and I think you should provide your source on this supposed trip.

I just read his autobiography and he didn't mention this supposed trip to Pakistan which seems strange to me considering he wrote about his return to Kenya and of his time in Indonesia as a child.
 
His whole life is NOT secret to me. I don't need to know every single facet and detail of what he's done in the past. He's elected, he's our president and what he's GOING to do matters to me. Who cares where he was born, his mother was an American citizen, therefore; under US law, he was a natural born citizen. Whether or not he visited Pakistan, how much time he spent in Indonesia, it's all irrelevant to me now. He's our leader, we must support him until 2012 and if by 2012 he has done a great job, we must support him for another 4 years. What bills he's going to pass, what he's going to do for our economy, for Israel... that's what matters to me. All of this speculation about his birth place is just nonsense.

You forgot the stuff about him starting his political career in the home of Bill Ayres, his 20+ year close relationship with Rev. Wright, his past interactions with socialist individuals, the fact that he was the most liberal senator yet, the fact that all of these things combined has formed his views and ideals. Oh and the fact that he likes to just not answer questions.

I think knowing about the President's background is an important bit of information for the public to know. You really don't? Let's say the next president is Republican and has a questionable history. You'd be ok with issues being ignored or swept under the rug?

Again, why don't they just show the original birth certificate and be done with it? His mother was American but his father was Kenyan so I don't know if his mother's citizenship automatically makes Obama a natural-born citizen or not. Since it is still being questioned so much at this date, I'd say something was up. And how is this dodging being transparent? Or was that just political campaign-speak?
 
You forgot the stuff about him starting his political career in the home of Bill Ayres,his 20+ year close relationship with Rev. Wright, his past interactions with socialist individuals, the fact that he was the most liberal senator yet, the fact that all of these things combined has formed his views and ideals. Oh and the fact that he likes to just not answer questions. I think knowing about the President's background is an important bit of information for the public to know. You really don't? Let's say the next president is Republican and has a questionable history. You'd be ok with issues being ignored or swept under the rug?

These are OLD issues! Enough with this shit already. He's been elected president of the United States whether you like it or not. If you don't go move to Canada. I'm so sick and tired of hearing about this crap. We've had 8 years of complete incompetence and the next guy hasn't been sworn in yet and people like you are criticizing him for stuff brought up during the campaign. This is a tough time for America and we need to move forward and stand behind our leader. If he sucks, throw him out of the white house.

Again, why don't they just show the original birth certificate and be done with it? His mother was American but his father was Kenyan so I don't know if his mother's citizenship automatically makes Obama a natural-born citizen or not.

It does!

Constitutional Topic: Citizenship - The U.S. Constitution Online - USConstitution.net

Natural-born citizen


Who is a natural-born citizen? Who, in other words, is a citizen at birth, such that that person can be a President someday? The 14th Amendment defines citizenship this way: "All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside." But even this does not get specific enough. As usual, the Constitution provides the framework for the law, but it is the law that fills in the gaps. Currently, Title 8 of the U.S. Code fills in those gaps. Section 1401 defines the following as people who are "citizens of the United States at birth:"
  • Anyone born inside the United States *
  • Any Indian or Eskimo born in the United States, provided being a citizen of the U.S. does not impair the person's status as a citizen of the tribe
  • Any one born outside the United States, both of whose parents are citizens of the U.S., as long as one parent has lived in the U.S.
  • Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is a citizen and lived in the U.S. for at least one year and the other parent is a U.S. national
  • Any one born in a U.S. possession, if one parent is a citizen and lived in the U.S. for at least one year
  • Any one found in the U.S. under the age of five, whose parentage cannot be determined, as long as proof of non-citizenship is not provided by age 21
  • Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is an alien and as long as the other parent is a citizen of the U.S. who lived in the U.S. for at least five years (with military and diplomatic service included in this time)
  • A final, historical condition: a person born before 5/24/1934 of an alien father and a U.S. citizen mother who has lived in the U.S.
* There is an exception in the law - the person must be "subject to the jurisdiction" of the United States. This would exempt the child of a diplomat, for example, from

As you can plainly see, as long as his mother was an American citizen, which she was, and his father who wasn't an American lived in the US for one year, which he did while he attended the University of Hawaii, Obama Jr., our president-elect is a natural born citizen of the United States of America.

Since it is still being questioned so much at this date, I'd say something was up. And how is this dodging being transparent? Or was that just political campaign-speak?

It's being questioned by idiots who are filing frivilous lawsuits. Don't feed the trolls.
 
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These are OLD issues! Enough with this shit already. He's been elected president of the United States whether you like it or not. If you don't go move to Canada. I'm so sick and tired of hearing about this crap. We've had 8 years of complete incompetence and the next guy hasn't been sworn in yet and people like you are criticizing him for stuff brought up during the campaign. This is a tough time for America and we need to move forward and stand behind our leader. If he sucks, throw him out of the white house.



It does!

Constitutional Topic: Citizenship - The U.S. Constitution Online - USConstitution.net



As you can plainly see, as long as his mother was an American citizen, which she was, and his father who wasn't an American lived in the US for one year, which he did while he attended the University of Hawaii, Obama Jr., our president-elect is a natural born citizen of the United States of America.



It's being questioned by idiots who are filing frivilous lawsuits. Don't feed the trolls.

only one problem there david, the one you bolded, doesnt apply to Obama because his dad wasnt a US National
 
Doesn't matter. His mother was a US citizen.
WRONG
in roberts post you see there are special cases where only one parent being a citizen doesnt make them citizens

the right answer if "it doesnt matter, he was born in HI"
 
WRONG
in roberts post you see there are special cases where only one parent being a citizen doesnt make them citizens

the right answer if "it doesnt matter, he was born in HI"
Ah...I see that now. Wasn't HI only a possession when he was born?

I would think this one would cover it:

Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is an alien and as long as the other parent is a citizen of the U.S. who lived in the U.S. for at least five years (with military and diplomatic service included in this time)
 
Ah...I see that now. Wasn't HI only a possession when he was born?

I would think this one would cover it:

Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is an alien and as long as the other parent is a citizen of the U.S. who lived in the U.S. for at least five years (with military and diplomatic service included in this time)
you tell me

Hawai'i became the 50th state in 1959
 
Ah...I see that now. Wasn't HI only a possession when he was born?

I would think this one would cover it:

Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is an alien and as long as the other parent is a citizen of the U.S. who lived in the U.S. for at least five years (with military and diplomatic service included in this time)

HI was a state when he was born.
 
bolded the wrong one. check again.
good that you fixed it


personally, i'd like to see this issue put to rest by the SCOTUS, but i doubt they will bother
they will likely do the same thing they did to the last one
 
These are OLD issues! Enough with this shit already. He's been elected president of the United States whether you like it or not. If you don't go move to Canada. I'm so sick and tired of hearing about this crap. We've had 8 years of complete incompetence and the next guy hasn't been sworn in yet and people like you are criticizing him for stuff brought up during the campaign. This is a tough time for America and we need to move forward and stand behind our leader. If he sucks, throw him out of the white house.


Old issues may come back to bite Obama in the ass . . . .

As for 'stuff he brought up during the campaign' I thought those were campaign promises for, you know, votes.

The next four years will be interesting, to say the least.

You never did answer my question. If the next prez is a Republican and has a questionable history would you be ok to ignore these issues or sweep them under the rug? Just wondering if it's ok with you when it pertains just to Dems or all pols.
 
Old issues may come back to bite Obama in the ass . . . .

As for 'stuff he brought up during the campaign' I thought those were campaign promises for, you know, votes.

The next four years will be interesting, to say the least.

You never did answer my question. If the next prez is a Republican and has a questionable history would you be ok to ignore these issues or sweep them under the rug? Just wondering if it's ok with you when it pertains just to Dems or all pols.

I've swept them under the rug for Bush. I swept his DWI, his connections with the Saudis, his failed business with the Texans, his rich white boy status. If you're a politician, you have to get your hands dirty. No politician in the world is squeaky clean. Obama's "issues" would've come up during the campaign... Hillary did a lot of digging.
 

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