Breaking: Get on C-Span...McConnell Giving Warning Nuke Option

[theHawk]

The Senate isn't going to vote to give the nuclear option on the budget... because they know they will not always hold the majority, and when they lose it, the Democrats will start to pass bills that do destruction on everything they passed. It would create a constant tug of war every time a simple majority changes. The 60 vote threshold was created for the reason of making sure bills would have to be passed with bipartisan support.

60 votes is not needed to pass the budget.

Dems passed the budget with only 55 votes in this one example.

Budgets Approved, With No G.O.P. Votes - NYTimes.com

60 votes are needed however, for cloture to proceed to the vote to pass the budget. It's called filibustering, which I'm sure you know about. So, in fact 60 votes ARE needed to pass the budget; since enough Dems in the current situation will not vote for cloture to get to the magic number of 60, they have prevented the budget from passing. We aren't going to play word games are we?

Nope. 60 votes are not required to pass legislation including the budget. 60 votes are needed to end a filibuster. However even that can be circumvented by the nuclear option. Republicans should do it.

If 60 votes were not required it would have been done by now. And I'm not going to engage in any further word games, have a nice day.

It wasn’t done because Dems were filibustering. If it was allowed to be voted on, it would had passed with 51 votes easily. It’s not a word game, it’s a fact.

 

[BluesLegend]

Look Democrats refuse to acknowledge the will of the people and election results. They are using outdated Senate rules to hold the country hostage...and for illegals no less who don't even belong in our country. So its time to nuke their ass yes.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

No nuking this time around. Too bad for you zealots.

 

[dcbl]

Indeed. Since it's an election year (midterms) then no more judges can be appointed, right?

no sir, you are mistaken

judges may be appointed at any time there is a vacancy by any sitting president

the only thing that changes during an election year is the probability of whether or not they get confirmed

the filibuster for judicial appointments no longer applies; so only 51 votes are needed to seat an appointed judge

if democrats were in charge (had 50 or more seats in the senate) they may be less likely to confirm a judge by a republican president & vice versa

right now we have a republican president and a republican senate; so there is not likely to be any holdup for confirmations, despite this being an election year

also; that type of holdup is always more likely during a presidential election year

 

[task0778]

The Senate isn't going to vote to give the nuclear option on the budget... because they know they will not always hold the majority, and when they lose it, the Democrats will start to pass bills that do destruction on everything they passed. It would create a constant tug of war every time a simple majority changes. The 60 vote threshold was created for the reason of making sure bills would have to be passed with bipartisan support.

60 votes is not needed to pass the budget.

Dems passed the budget with only 55 votes in this one example.

Budgets Approved, With No G.O.P. Votes - NYTimes.com

60 votes are needed however, for cloture to proceed to the vote to pass the budget. It's called filibustering, which I'm sure you know about. So, in fact 60 votes ARE needed to pass the budget; since enough Dems in the current situation will not vote for cloture to get to the magic number of 60, they have prevented the budget from passing. We aren't going to play word games are we?

Nope. 60 votes are not required to pass legislation including the budget. 60 votes are needed to end a filibuster. However even that can be circumvented by the nuclear option. Republicans should do it.

If 60 votes were not required it would have been done by now. And I'm not going to engage in any further word games, have a nice day.

It wasn’t done because Dems were filibustering. If it was allowed to be voted on, it would had passed with 51 votes easily. It’s not a word game, it’s a fact.

And 60 votes were/are required to end the filibuster. Ergo, 60 votes IS required to pass the legislation cuz they don't even get to the vote on the legislation until cloture is voted on. Sure looks like you're playing word games to me. What is a fact is that the GOP cannot pass the budget until and unless enough Democrats agree to vote for cloture on the debate over the bill. Are we done yet with this BULLSHIT?