DudleySmith
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^^^This. They led the Pity Party For Deviants And Faggots for decades, let them snivel about it.The women virtue-signaled for it....Let them fix what they fucked-up.
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^^^This. They led the Pity Party For Deviants And Faggots for decades, let them snivel about it.The women virtue-signaled for it....Let them fix what they fucked-up.
This wasn't even remotely close. I want the pro trans crowd to tell me that this race looked fair to them.
We desperately need to bring back bullying to schools.
This wasn't even remotely close. I want the pro trans crowd to tell me that this race looked fair to them.
We desperately need to bring back bullying to schools.
This wasn't even remotely close. I want the pro trans crowd to tell me that this race looked fair to them.
We desperately need to bring back bullying to schools.
I don’t think you understand what I meant. Trans women should not compete against biological women it isn’t fair and biology does matter In sports.I don't think the tiny subset of female athletes is all that tiny. If trans-women want to compete in a separate category, that's fine, but I think we both know that ain't going to work cuz they are a really tiny subset. In this reality nobody is going to care about who won 1st place in any trans athletic individual competition. And I cannot see any team competition where trans women are allowed to compete with other women. What sport would that be? I see no possible solution that could be workable.
You speak of fairness and dignity but I see none of that in Lia Thomas' victories. If trans women want to compete then let them do it in a sport where their superior size, strength, and athletic ability does not give them an advantage.
LOL....Solomon you are not so don't even try "splitting the baby" on this one.I don’t think you understand what I meant. Trans women should not compete against biological women it isn’t fair and biology does matter In sports.
So let’s think outside the box..what would be a good compromise that would protect the integrity of women’s sports but also treat transgender women fairly and with dignity because it seems no one wants to do that.
I agree that trans athletes are too tiny a subset to compete in their own league.
IMO…sometimes life and biology just isn’t going to be fair and that is the way it is. Women’s sports were designed to accommodate the very distinct biological differences between men and women that made direct competition unfair. Transgender women are not biological women and the push to insist there is no difference ultimately does a disservice to both. Rather the focus should be on respect, acceptance and inclusion to the extent possible and women’s sports might just have to be where full inclusion is just not possible.
So…what are other alternatives? Competing for exhibition only is one thought.
So…what are other alternatives? Competing for exhibition only is one thought.
Well… we DO place an inordinate amount of emphasis (and money) on sports.Maybe competing in non-sports, like Debate for instance. Chess, billiards, arts and crafts, innovative and creative ideas and solutions that might have a benefit to society. Some might say that we place too much emphasis on sports and winning.
Taking female hormones isn’t enough to level the playing fieldI call bullshit. Someone who identifies as trans is not the same as someone who is actually trans and has taken the female hormones.
So what?The trans athlete in this story finished first in that heat but ultimately lost the competition to a cis female. That seems to be an important part of story you all are ignoring.
My policy (as I think you know) is that if you have indoor plumbing, you compete against others who do as well. If you have outdoor plumbing, you compete against this who have outdoor plumbing.
Trans women people aren’t excluded on the basis of gender. They’re excluded on the basis of sex. Two different things.You can't take a position that anyone can identify as any gender they feel at any given moment and everyone has to take that as gospel fact ... AND ... simultaneously take a position that we can exclude them from participating as the person they identify.
It's all, or nothing ... either we accept the delusion as a fact, or we don't.
Trans women people aren’t excluded on the basis of gender. They’re excluded on the basis of sex. Two different things.
Sure, in the sense they’re two different (if obviously related) thingsThen, what you're saying is, gender identity, a feeling, a whim, a passing fancy, isn't equivalent to sexual identity and isn't to be treated as if it were.
Sure, in the sense they’re two different (if obviously related) things
Whether it’s “real” or a whim is subjective. It probably is real to actual trans people. They “really” feel like a woman, I guess.
Gender= subjective
Sex= objective
What makes men stronger than women as a whole?So what?
Not all men are faster and stronger than all women, but men are much faster and stronger as a whole.
Thats why men and women cannot compete against each other in most sports. There’s nothing sexist or transphobic about that.
I think you’re still equating gender with sex.The problem is ... as a society, we're told that we MUST accept a gender identity as a fact else be labelled as "transphobic".
This leads to the very societal issues such as the one highlighted in the OP.
As long as people demand that everyone else accept a delusion regardless of the facts, we can't have reality based dialogue on any subject.
This wasn't even remotely close. I want the pro trans crowd to tell me that this race looked fair to them.
We desperately need to bring back bullying to schools.
Do I need to go through it?What makes men stronger than women as a whole?