Blacks are stupid...discuss

And my understanding of the history of eugenics (and let's not forget what's her face, who believed in forced sterilization and birth control for all poor, stupid and minority women...Margaret Sanger? Was that her name? The mother/goddess for all lesbos...was obviously a huge proponent of eugenics) is that it's historically been supported in this country by libs.

Imagine that!
Abortion - A Liberal Cause?
by Jefferis Kent Peterson
Abortion has been numbered among the liberal causes of modern politics. Abortion is identified with women's rights just as the Civil Rights Movement was identified with equal rights for African Americans and other minorities. But is abortion really a liberal cause? A careful examination of the history of the abortion rights movement would shock even the most ardent defender of a woman's right to choose. The founders of the movement were in fact racists who despised the poor and who were searching for a way to prevent colored races from reproducing. Rather than defending the rights of the poorest of the poor, which is the tradition of liberalism, the founders advocated abortion as a means of eliminating the poor; especially Blacks, Jews, Slavs, and Italians. And rather than desiring to help the poor through welfare programs, they wanted to eliminate all charities and government aid. Today, most liberals would be shocked to know of this racist heritage. Not only is the founding of the abortion rights movement anti-liberal, but it may have been an attempt to promote racial genocide.

The modern day abortion rights movement began as the American Birth Control League in 1921. Among its founding board members were Margaret Sanger, Lothrup Stoddard, and C. C. Little. The latter two people were known for their racist views, but Margaret Sanger continually shows up in the company of other racists. In fact, she was the guest speaker at a Ku Klux Klan rally in Silverlake, N. J. in 1926.[1] Not only did she not disassociate herself from these racist views, her own writings leave little doubt as to her sympathies. In implementing a plan called the "Negro Project," that was designed to sterilize Blacks and reduce the number of Black children being born in the south, Sanger wrote:

"[We propose to] hire three or four colored ministers, preferably with social-service backgrounds, and with engaging personalities. The most successful educational approach to the Negro is through a religious appeal. And we do not want word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population, and the minister is the man who can straighten out that idea if it ever occurs to any of their more rebellious members." [2]

Sanger also viewed welfare as a detriment to society because it increased the number of poor blacks and foreigners. "Organized charity (modern welfare) is the symptom of a malignant social disease, increasing numbers of defectives, delinquents, and dependents. My criticism, therefore, is not directed at the 'failure' of philanthropy, but rather at its success."[3] The urban poor, and their increasing numbers, she called, "an ever widening margin of biological waste."[4] Welfare, she believed, encouraged the breeding of the poor, or "human waste," as she called them. She feared that welfare would encourage the urban poor by having them give birth to those "stocks that are the most detrimental to the future of the race"[5] Therefore, she believed that the government should actively encourage the sterilization of those who are unfit to propagate the race, using as her motto: "More [children] from the fit, less from the unfit."[6]

No modern day liberal would dare question the need for some form of government aid to the poor. But Margaret Sanger wanted more for the privileged and less for the poor. How did someone who was so obviously biased and lacking in compassion become the heroine of todays liberals? It is a strange reversal of political direction. It is as if the Democratic Party suddenly turned around and supported David Duke for Supreme Court Justice.

Margaret Sanger also continued to advocate for her racial prejudices in her magazine, Birth Control Review. In six successive issues of that magazine, she advocated limiting the racial quotas of immigration of "Slavs, Hebrews, and Latins,"[7] because of their lower intelligence! Although Ms. Sanger was the editor of the magazine, she shared its pages with the racist co-founders of the American Birth Control League. Board member Lothrup Stoddard wrote the racist book The Rising Tide of Color Against White World-Supremacy [8], which was reviewed favorably in Birth Control Review.[9] Co-founder and board member, C. C. Little, was president of the Third Race Betterment Conference, and he advocated preserving the purity of "Yankee stock" through limiting the births of non-Whites.[10]

Margaret Sanger was also strongly anti-Semitic. She started a similar birth control organization with a man named Henry Pratt Fairchild, who wrote The Melting Pot Mistake, in which he accused "the Jews" of diluting the true American stock.[11] In his book, Race and Nationality, (1947), Fairchild blamed anti-Semitism and the holocaust in part on "the Jews."[12].

Finally, Margaret Sanger and her organization began to be primary sponsors of abortion rights during her lifetime. But because she had associated herself with Adolph Hitler, praising him for his racial politics of eugenics, she changed the name of American Birth Control League to Planned Parenthood during WWII in order to disguise her racist past.[13] Today, her organization, Planned Parenthood, is still in the forefront of advocating abortion as a means of eliminating the unwanted and "unfit." Not only does the organization perform thousands abortions each year, it also receives 100's of millions of tax dollars each year through Federal and State Governments.[14] And rather than being in the forefront of a woman's right to choose, International Planned Parenthood is a primary advocate for the Chinese Government's policy of forcing women to have abortions against their will, and it also advocates for the sterilization of Third World non-Whites across the globe.[15] It seems that PP is "pro-choice" when trying to impress the U.S. media, but anti-choice in the actual implementation of its world-wide agenda.

But has Planned Parenthood changed? It is significant to note that Planned Parenthood has never distanced itself from the vision and ideology of its founder. Successive presidents of the organization have praised her work, including Faye Wattleton, who said, "As we celebrate the 100th birthday of Margaret Sanger, our courageous leader, we should be very proud of what we are and what our mission is. It is a very grand mission; abortion is only the tip of the iceberg."[16]

One can only wonder how abortion rights came to be adopted by liberals in the Democratic Party, or any other party. It is difficult to image how it came to be identified with other liberal causes. Through a slick media campaign and effective sloganeering, Planned Parenthood painted abortion as a compassionate and caring alternative to childbirth. Their motivation however may be altogether different. It seems that abortion still today, rather than being seen as a way of helping the poor and minorities, is considered the easiest solution for our economic problems. Don't help the poor, just eliminate them.

Jeff Peterson writes for the Scholars' Corner and is the author of "Pardoned or Paroled?" from Isaiah House Publishing.


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Footnotes:
1) Emily Taft Douglas, Margaret Sanger; Pioneer of the Future, Holt, Rinehart & Winston, N.Y., 1970, p. 192.
2) Margaret Sanger, letter to Clarence Gamble, Oct. 19,1939. - Sanger manuscripts, Sophia Smith Collection, Smith College.
3) Margaret Sanger, The Pivot of Civilization, Brentano's, N.Y., 1922, p.108.
4) Margaret Sanger, The Pivot of Civilization, p.134.
5) Margaret Sanger, The Pivot of Civilization, pp. 116-117.
6) Margaret Sanger, The Pivot of Civilization, p.104 & 179.
7) Birth Control Review article:"Racial Quotas in Immigration," Margaret Sanger, editor, Aug. 1920, pp. 9-10. Article continues in next 5 issues.
8) Linda Gordon, Woman's Body, Woman's Right: A Social History of Birth Control in America, Grossman,N.Y., 1976, p. 283.
9) Birth Control Review, Margaret Sanger, editor, Oct. 1920.
10) Gordon, Woman's Body, p. 283.
11) Fairchild, The Melting Pot Mistake, 1926, pp. 212 ff.
12) Fairchild, Race and Nationality, 1947, pp. 137-161, esp. p.147.
13) Gordon, Woman's Body, p. 347.
14) Based on 1984 figures compiled by the Alan Guttmacher Institute, Issues in Brief, 4:1 (March, 1984).
15) Planned Parenthood Review, 5:1 (Winter 1984/85) & 2:4 (Winter 1982), p. 16. Report of the Working Group on the Promotion of Family Planning as a Basic Human Right, International Planned Parenthood Federation, London, 1984, pp. 21-23.
16) Faye Wattleton, president Planned Parenthood Federation of America, speech, February 5, 1979.

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Intellectual ability is individual, and I have never once seen a reason to believe otherwise. I've know some really smart people of all races, and known some really dumb ones.

But you're ignoring the most crucial point here, which is that GENERALLY, blacks are less intelligent. Yes, some individual blacks may be smarter than some individual whites, but that's not the norm.

These norms have consequences. It means that blacks are going to have generally lower test scores, for instance. Yet the blame is assigned to whites. That's wrong. That's like blaming men for the fact that most women are shorter.
 
I'm no fan of genetic engineering, nor do I believe in forced sterilization of anyone, nor do I believe in condoms being handed out at schools...but this is what I find so frustrating.

Liberals are. They claim to believe in science...except when science tells them something they don't like. Then they attack the person who puts forth the science, and irrationally, anybody who believes it.

So do they believe in evolution or not? Do they believe in birth control or not? Do they believe in abortion or not? If they do, then why do they insist that everybody is born equal, and why do they insist they aren't supporting eugenics?
 
So you are not open to what is a discussion of racism? Is it racist to point out that backs were held back post-Reconstruction? Is it racist to say that quotas are a prejudice response to Caucasians? What's ok to discuss? What are the parameters?
not when it is required to take sides. But that is strictly MY position. you can discuss anything you like. I don't have to join in.
 
My opinon is based on fact and logic. Yours is based on nothing.

You for some reason see a need to post in this thread to say you aren't going discuss the topic so you can damned-well expect someone to question your insanity.
Just so long as they don't question my sanity----OH, that's not what you intended to say, right? HEH HEH. You are showing your stupidity more and more each day.
 
I don't know about genetics or DNA and that stuff.....but the fact the blacks vote Democratic by a hugh majority is proof enough for me that they must be generally stupid, stupid, stupid.....
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I don't know about genetics or DNA and that stuff.....but the fact the blacks vote Democratic by a hugh majority is proof enough for me that they must be generally stupid, stupid, stupid.....
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You said hugh majority. That's Freeper talk :rofl: Now you have to say "we're screwn!" and then "morans!" and you have to use 1!1!1! a lot.

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But you're ignoring the most crucial point here, which is that GENERALLY, blacks are less intelligent. Yes, some individual blacks may be smarter than some individual whites, but that's not the norm.

These norms have consequences. It means that blacks are going to have generally lower test scores, for instance. Yet the blame is assigned to whites. That's wrong. That's like blaming men for the fact that most women are shorter.

I'm ignoring nothing. I addressed that in one of my first posts. If blacks are generally less intelligent, it's because they GENERALLY have less educational opportunity.

I'm not blaming whites for that. I blame both sides of the issue ... your side for it's ignorant beliefs, and the other side for underachieving by perpetuating a culture of dependence rather than a will to excel.
 
even if science, or dna says that blacks are less intelligent, that doesnt make it true.

Same goes for anything, any research out there, for any topic, isnt to be taken as gospel.

Scientists are humans, and make mistakes and are biased.

I think if blacks, and poor people, including whites, all had the same opportunity, it might not be equal, but it would be closer.

I just have a funny feeling, some want to prove the inferiority of other races to prove their race superior which by no means, is a white thing only, not at all.

I'm ignoring nothing. I addressed that in one of my first posts. If blacks are generally less intelligent, it's because they GENERALLY have less educational opportunity.

I'm not blaming whites for that. I blame both sides of the issue ... your side for it's ignorant beliefs, and the other side for underachieving by perpetuating a culture of dependence rather than a will to excel.
 
Actually, according to the latest poll I have seen, summarizing survey results taken during the last few years, there are just slightly more Black conservatives, than Black liberals. (I can elaborate and give sources for those interested.)

Blacks vote overwhelmingly for the Democrats, this is true. But so did Southern whites, when I was a young man. And Blacks in the North tended to vote Republican. We lost them when we appeared to (and did) turn away from the Civil Rights struggle.

Politics is about struggle, struggle to change peoples' views. This doesn't mainly happen through books or talk radio in isolation, but rather in step with events.
 
I can tell you why there are slightly more conservative blacks than dems, too.

When you look at success as the numbers of year since a family (or a population) has immigrated/been freed/started from nothing, you'll see a couple of things. One, that the more distance between a group's immigration/freedom etc., the more successful, educated and wealthy that group is. Second, as a group becomes better educated, but remains close enough timewise to their origins, the more likely they are to become conservative...

Because they value and appreciate their freedom, because they value and appreciate the ability to move ahead, and because they value and appreciate life. The ones who don't sink into a morass of welfare, family planning failures and drug addiction.

That's why libs are largely elitist, privileged dimwits. It's been too long for them, and they have no recollection of what the real world is about.

That's my opinion, anyway.
 
The area in which Blacks tend to be more conservative is religion or issues that touch on religion. Conservative republicans have done an excellent job of exploiting a few complex subjects while ignoring the issues that make for a better or worse society. If you check the graphs in the link below, you notice a slow rise in progress in acceptance of lifestyles and other complex topics but you also see the power of doctrine.

Whenever I have contact with a Jewish person or Black person who claims to be conservative, I have to admit astonishment.

http://people-press.org/reports/display.php3?ReportID=283
 
White Fantasies About Raced-Based Intelligence

By Natalie Washington-Weik

"The idea of race-based intelligence has historically proved to be an unintelligent notion. Let one just question the premise: what is race and what is intelligence? Neither idea is physical, fixed, nor cross-cultural. Certainly, race and intelligence are real-but only as a social construction. For instance, ten of thousands of African Americans who are described as racially "black" in America, would undoubtedly be designated as "whites" in places like Brazil and Nigeria-because of their skin color, economic status and/or language. Additionally, an Anglo-Saxon visiting Mali or Sri Lanka may be labeled as unintelligent because he cannot recount the names of all his ancestors sixteen or two generations before him, nor provide food for himself by himself, nor can he speak five languages. While in his country he may be a designated a genius, a Nobel Prize winner even."

http://www.counterpunch.org/washington10242007.html
 
The area in which Blacks tend to be more conservative is religion or issues that touch on religion. Conservative republicans have done an excellent job of exploiting a few complex subjects while ignoring the issues that make for a better or worse society. If you check the graphs in the link below, you notice a slow rise in progress in acceptance of lifestyles and other complex topics but you also see the power of doctrine.

Whenever I have contact with a Jewish person or Black person who claims to be conservative, I have to admit astonishment.

http://people-press.org/reports/display.php3?ReportID=283

Because your prejudice on the matter.
 
The area in which Blacks tend to be more conservative is religion or issues that touch on religion. Conservative republicans have done an excellent job of exploiting a few complex subjects while ignoring the issues that make for a better or worse society. If you check the graphs in the link below, you notice a slow rise in progress in acceptance of lifestyles and other complex topics but you also see the power of doctrine.

Whenever I have contact with a Jewish person or Black person who claims to be conservative, I have to admit astonishment.

http://people-press.org/reports/display.php3?ReportID=283

A classic illustration of Stockholm syndrome, I say. :)

You'll find that Whitey's religion always came before the conservatism. Tribal societies, including the Kikes, are invariably socialist in their set-up.

Of course the same applies to half-witted whites, who forsook their natural native Gods, and sold their mystical birthright for a mess of Wop pottage (soup), when their materialistic tribal leaders astutely adopted (“All the better to fleece you with, My Dears!”) - or had their Roman captors unnatural Christinsanity forced on them.

Although I prefer to regard such renegades, such as the spineless Scots-Irish Soupers, as craven race traitors. ;)

But the good ol’ Bell Curve boys here have a point.

Who but a gullible, brainless Bantu spear-chucker, or their obsequious ancestors, would swap perfectly good vagina lovin’ Gods for the Jew’s genocidal, sadomasochistic, misogynistic, covert faggot of a God? :eusa_think:
 
I'm ignoring nothing. I addressed that in one of my first posts. If blacks are generally less intelligent, it's because they GENERALLY have less educational opportunity.

But this raises questions: WHY do they have "less educational opportunity," and... do they really?

And does "educational opportunity" create intelligence?

Blacks have access in the U.S. to unprecedented levels of education through forced integration funding, affirmative action, etc. Yet they wander the halls with their pants falling down and assault teachers. And even blacks in higher-earning families have scores LOWER than POORER WHITES!!!

At some point, you gotta say WTF. There is just no further explanation for why blacks are so dumb but genetics. It's like people want to believe it's whitey fault more than they want to believe in Santa Claus.

The bottom line is that people are afraid of this information. They are TERRIFIED of it, really. They don't want to hurt blacks' feelings, which I understand. But the truth is the truth. You can do all kinds of dances and spray all kinds of perfumes, but at the end of the day, it doesn't go away. Black people are just not as inherently intelligent as whites.
 
But this raises questions: WHY do they have "less educational opportunity," and... do they really?

And does "educational opportunity" create intelligence?

Blacks have access in the U.S. to unprecedented levels of education through forced integration funding, affirmative action, etc. Yet they wander the halls with their pants falling down and assault teachers. And even blacks in higher-earning families have scores LOWER than POORER WHITES!!!

At some point, you gotta say WTF. There is just no further explanation for why blacks are so dumb but genetics. It's like people want to believe it's whitey fault more than they want to believe in Santa Claus.

The bottom line is that people are afraid of this information. They are TERRIFIED of it, really. They don't want to hurt blacks' feelings, which I understand. But the truth is the truth. You can do all kinds of dances and spray all kinds of perfumes, but at the end of the day, it doesn't go away. Black people are just not as inherently intelligent as whites.

Simply NOT true. Blacks that are given the same tools as whites can and do score just as well as whitey. The sub culture of the black population in this country dismiss education, so unless the family fights that, some will chose not to apply themselves, guess what? LOTS of white kids do EXACTLY the same thing.

The reality is that in the poor black neighborhoods the schools are crappy, the Teachers are generally subpar or burntout and the family structure and sub culture are stacked against those kids. WHICH is true for poor white kids in similar neighborhoods.

Liberals spent the last 50 years destroying the family and we are paying the price for that now. Poor families in cities are the worst. They are told from the go that they are entitled to things and that they do not have to preform or to put up an effort. This is true regardless of skin color.
 
Hmmm... that could have been differentiating between north and south Asians (the former are smarter) and spatial and verbal IQ (whites have higher verbal IQs, Asians have higher spatial IQs).

J. Phillippe Rushton and Richard Lynn have done pretty comprensive work in this field and both have written pretty accessible books on the topic.

The smartest ethnic group in the world is apparently the Ashkenazi (northen European) Jews.

So the respectably pallid Ashkenazi Jews, not those bestial BLACK Jews, are the brainiest people on earth, Eh?

Does this mean that the white, Paul Newman looking interlopers from Russia, not the sub-human frizzy-haired Sephardic Sambo’s that infiltrated Canaan Land from their ARABian homeland are the true Jews?

Seeing Abraham was an ARAB, and Jews claim to be descended from him, where did the predominately European looking Jews come from? :confused:

And what does that do to the Zoot-suited Brooklyn Jews supposed direct ancestral claim to the Promised Land?

How come Bill Kristol, and millions of other Jews Aryan enough for a walk-up start in the Waffen SS, has more “right of return” than the racially correct ARAB looking Kikes do? :confused:
 

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