Bill O’Reilly and Andrea Tantaros misconstrue 14th Amendment and “equal protection of the laws”.

[Redfish]

Look, bode. I get it that you are gay and have to defend your lifestyle and pretend that it is a normal human condition. But in so doing you are also defending all kinds of human perversion and making them de facto normal.

The only way to get what you want and prevent the other aberations of marriage would be to process a constitutional amendment allowing 2 person gay marriage and prohibiting all other forms of marriage that do not involve two people.

otherwise there is no legal barrior to calling all other forms of human groupings marriages.

Why do you insist that something is abnormal or perverted just because a minority of people do it?

its not abnormal because only a minority do it. Its abnormal because of human mammalian biology.

Its abnormal by the same criteria that physical birth defects are abnormal. We don't discriminate because of abnormalities, but we don't call them normal either.

So birth control is abnormal too, I suppose.

Uhhh, how exactly do you jump from homosexuality to birth control? Male/female sex is normal, preventing unwanted pregnancy is normal. gay sex is not normal.

now, move on.

Preventing unwanted pregnancy is normal? Where in nature among the mammals does that occur?

btw, it's virtually impossible for a woman to get pregnant via anal sex - and you say preventing unwanted pregnancy is normal. You've just made anal sex normal.

anything a man a woman consent to do together is normal for them. two men doing anal is not normal, two women doing mutual cunniligus is not normal. same sex sex is not normal.

 

[Redfish]

"right to bear arms" is clear. the word "marriage" appears nowhere in the 14th

Incorrect.

Nowhere in the Second Amendment will you find the words 'individual' or 'self-defense,' but the Second Amendment does in fact protect an individual right to possess a handgun pursuant to the right of lawful self-defense, just as the Constitution protects the right to marry.

“But that's not in the Constitution” is a failed and ignorant 'argument.'

NO, its a very valid argument, based on a literal reading of the constitution. Making racial and religious protections applicable to sexual abnormality is NOT a valid interpretation of the constitution. If it was then you would have to argue in favor of pedifilia and beastiality, because a small % of the populations considers those aberations to be normal.

You might argue that, but most sane people would be able to find rational arguments against pedophilia and bestiality.

There's the whole consent thing you anti gay bigots forget about in your slippery slope fallacies.

why do you assume that the members of a polygamous or multiple partner marriage would not all consent to it?

the slippery slope is real, gay marriage WILL lead to the legalization of all forms of marriage. Its just another left wing step towards the destruction of our culture.

Wytch, its not about your sexual orientation, you are but a pawn in this. This is but one part of a left wing plan to bring the USA to its knees by destroying our culture, our economy, and our future.

Wrong.

Your 'argument ' in fact fails as a fallacy.

The issue before the Supreme Court has nothing to do with 'polygamy,' 'plural marriage,' or 'bigamy,' all of which are red herrings.

Unlike 'polygamists,' same-sex couples are currently eligible to enter into marriage contracts, so the issue before the Court concerns the states refusing to allow gay Americans access to marriage law they're eligible to participate in, in violation of the 14th Amendment, not whether same-sex couples are eligible to marry.

'Polygamists' are not eligible to enter into marriage contracts because the laws aren't written to accommodate three or more persons, and that won't change when un-Constitutional marriage bans are invalidated.

gay marriage will lead to multiple marriage. The ACLU is already gearing up for a court fight on it.

Its coming, gay marriage is just the first step to total destruction of our culture. When there is no longer any "right" and "wrong" our civilization is over.

 

[Redfish]

Look, bode. I get it that you are gay and have to defend your lifestyle and pretend that it is a normal human condition. But in so doing you are also defending all kinds of human perversion and making them de facto normal.

The only way to get what you want and prevent the other aberations of marriage would be to process a constitutional amendment allowing 2 person gay marriage and prohibiting all other forms of marriage that do not involve two people.

otherwise there is no legal barrior to calling all other forms of human groupings marriages.

Why do you insist that something is abnormal or perverted just because a minority of people do it?

That's not why it's abnormal/perverted. It's abnormal and perverted because it is contrary to nature. The body parts of animals (including humans) are designed for heterosexual sex, not anything else. Would one walk on his hands instead of feet ? No, of course not. Feet were designed for walking, not hands. The analogy is obvious,

So...you want to dictate what kind of sex people have.

There is no such thing as "kind of sex people have" There is only one kind of sex. Heterosexual. Anything else is a perversion, engaged in by perverts. If they want to be idiots and engage PRIVATELY in that, that could do so, but doing it openly, is HARM to the normal population in that 1). It is disgusting to see and 2). it may influence young, impressionable, unstable kids to acquire the same ailment.

Wait...so now you're saying that fellatio, cunnilingus, analingus and anal penetration are okay as long as it's only straight people doing it? My, aren't you selfish.

Who is having sex "openly"? That's a crime you know.

not worthy of response.

 

[Skylar]

Incorrect.

Nowhere in the Second Amendment will you find the words 'individual' or 'self-defense,' but the Second Amendment does in fact protect an individual right to possess a handgun pursuant to the right of lawful self-defense, just as the Constitution protects the right to marry.

“But that's not in the Constitution” is a failed and ignorant 'argument.'

NO, its a very valid argument, based on a literal reading of the constitution. Making racial and religious protections applicable to sexual abnormality is NOT a valid interpretation of the constitution. If it was then you would have to argue in favor of pedifilia and beastiality, because a small % of the populations considers those aberations to be normal.

You might argue that, but most sane people would be able to find rational arguments against pedophilia and bestiality.

There's the whole consent thing you anti gay bigots forget about in your slippery slope fallacies.

why do you assume that the members of a polygamous or multiple partner marriage would not all consent to it?

the slippery slope is real, gay marriage WILL lead to the legalization of all forms of marriage. Its just another left wing step towards the destruction of our culture.

Wytch, its not about your sexual orientation, you are but a pawn in this. This is but one part of a left wing plan to bring the USA to its knees by destroying our culture, our economy, and our future.

Wrong.

Your 'argument ' in fact fails as a fallacy.

The issue before the Supreme Court has nothing to do with 'polygamy,' 'plural marriage,' or 'bigamy,' all of which are red herrings.

Unlike 'polygamists,' same-sex couples are currently eligible to enter into marriage contracts, so the issue before the Court concerns the states refusing to allow gay Americans access to marriage law they're eligible to participate in, in violation of the 14th Amendment, not whether same-sex couples are eligible to marry.

'Polygamists' are not eligible to enter into marriage contracts because the laws aren't written to accommodate three or more persons, and that won't change when un-Constitutional marriage bans are invalidated.

gay marriage will lead to multiple marriage. The ACLU is already gearing up for a court fight on it.

Its coming, gay marriage is just the first step to total destruction of our culture. When there is no longer any "right" and "wrong" our civilization is over.

Slippery slope fallacy.

 

[Skylar]

Feel free to work on that.

Look, bode. I get it that you are gay and have to defend your lifestyle and pretend that it is a normal human condition. But in so doing you are also defending all kinds of human perversion and making them de facto normal.

The only way to get what you want and prevent the other aberations of marriage would be to process a constitutional amendment allowing 2 person gay marriage and prohibiting all other forms of marriage that do not involve two people.

otherwise there is no legal barrior to calling all other forms of human groupings marriages.

Why do you insist that something is abnormal or perverted just because a minority of people do it?

That's not why it's abnormal/perverted. It's abnormal and perverted because it is contrary to nature. The body parts of animals (including humans) are designed for heterosexual sex, not anything else. Would one walk on his hands instead of feet ? No, of course not. Feet were designed for walking, not hands. The analogy is obvious,

So...you want to dictate what kind of sex people have.

There is no such thing as "kind of sex people have" There is only one kind of sex. Heterosexual. Anything else is a perversion, engaged in by perverts.

Says you. And you're nobody.

 

[bodecea]

Why do you insist that something is abnormal or perverted just because a minority of people do it?

its not abnormal because only a minority do it. Its abnormal because of human mammalian biology.

Its abnormal by the same criteria that physical birth defects are abnormal. We don't discriminate because of abnormalities, but we don't call them normal either.

So birth control is abnormal too, I suppose.

Uhhh, how exactly do you jump from homosexuality to birth control? Male/female sex is normal, preventing unwanted pregnancy is normal. gay sex is not normal.

now, move on.

Preventing unwanted pregnancy is normal? Where in nature among the mammals does that occur?

btw, it's virtually impossible for a woman to get pregnant via anal sex - and you say preventing unwanted pregnancy is normal. You've just made anal sex normal.

anything a man a woman consent to do together is normal for them. two men doing anal is not normal, two women doing mutual cunniligus is not normal. same sex sex is not normal.

So...to you...a man and a woman consenting to anal sex is normal and a man and a woman doing oral sex are normal.

Ah....so it IS about gender only.

 

[bodecea]

Why do you insist that something is abnormal or perverted just because a minority of people do it?

That's not why it's abnormal/perverted. It's abnormal and perverted because it is contrary to nature. The body parts of animals (including humans) are designed for heterosexual sex, not anything else. Would one walk on his hands instead of feet ? No, of course not. Feet were designed for walking, not hands. The analogy is obvious,

So...you want to dictate what kind of sex people have.

There is no such thing as "kind of sex people have" There is only one kind of sex. Heterosexual. Anything else is a perversion, engaged in by perverts. If they want to be idiots and engage PRIVATELY in that, that could do so, but doing it openly, is HARM to the normal population in that 1). It is disgusting to see and 2). it may influence young, impressionable, unstable kids to acquire the same ailment.

Wait...so now you're saying that fellatio, cunnilingus, analingus and anal penetration are okay as long as it's only straight people doing it? My, aren't you selfish.

Who is having sex "openly"? That's a crime you know.

not worthy of response.

Translation: he has no answer.

 

[Redfish]

its not abnormal because only a minority do it. Its abnormal because of human mammalian biology.

Its abnormal by the same criteria that physical birth defects are abnormal. We don't discriminate because of abnormalities, but we don't call them normal either.

So birth control is abnormal too, I suppose.

Uhhh, how exactly do you jump from homosexuality to birth control? Male/female sex is normal, preventing unwanted pregnancy is normal. gay sex is not normal.

now, move on.

Preventing unwanted pregnancy is normal? Where in nature among the mammals does that occur?

btw, it's virtually impossible for a woman to get pregnant via anal sex - and you say preventing unwanted pregnancy is normal. You've just made anal sex normal.

anything a man a woman consent to do together is normal for them. two men doing anal is not normal, two women doing mutual cunniligus is not normal. same sex sex is not normal.

So...to you...a man and a woman consenting to anal sex is normal and a man and a woman doing oral sex are normal.

Ah....so it IS about gender only.

yes, of course it is. Always has been, always will be. homosexuality is not a normal condition of adult humans. It is a mental aberation that causes the infected to be attracted sexually to the same sex. It is a mental condition. Mental abnormalities are not normal, thats why they are called abnormalities.

 

[Redfish]

That's not why it's abnormal/perverted. It's abnormal and perverted because it is contrary to nature. The body parts of animals (including humans) are designed for heterosexual sex, not anything else. Would one walk on his hands instead of feet ? No, of course not. Feet were designed for walking, not hands. The analogy is obvious,

So...you want to dictate what kind of sex people have.

There is no such thing as "kind of sex people have" There is only one kind of sex. Heterosexual. Anything else is a perversion, engaged in by perverts. If they want to be idiots and engage PRIVATELY in that, that could do so, but doing it openly, is HARM to the normal population in that 1). It is disgusting to see and 2). it may influence young, impressionable, unstable kids to acquire the same ailment.

Wait...so now you're saying that fellatio, cunnilingus, analingus and anal penetration are okay as long as it's only straight people doing it? My, aren't you selfish.

Who is having sex "openly"? That's a crime you know.

not worthy of response.

Translation: he has no answer.

It was a stupid question, but if you insist on an answer: Yes, whatever a man and a woman do consentually is normal for the two of them, it might be abnormal for another man/woman couple, but its normal for that couple.

The key is that one man and one woman are involved. sex between two women or two men is never normal no matter what form or activity the sex involves.

 

[Skylar]

So birth control is abnormal too, I suppose.

Uhhh, how exactly do you jump from homosexuality to birth control? Male/female sex is normal, preventing unwanted pregnancy is normal. gay sex is not normal.

now, move on.

Preventing unwanted pregnancy is normal? Where in nature among the mammals does that occur?

btw, it's virtually impossible for a woman to get pregnant via anal sex - and you say preventing unwanted pregnancy is normal. You've just made anal sex normal.

anything a man a woman consent to do together is normal for them. two men doing anal is not normal, two women doing mutual cunniligus is not normal. same sex sex is not normal.

So...to you...a man and a woman consenting to anal sex is normal and a man and a woman doing oral sex are normal.

Ah....so it IS about gender only.

yes, of course it is. Always has been, always will be. homosexuality is not a normal condition of adult humans. It is a mental aberation that causes the infected to be attracted sexually to the same sex. It is a mental condition. Mental abnormalities are not normal, thats why they are called abnormalities.

Says you. And we're not going to strip any gay or lesbians of their rights because of your personal opinion.

 

[Redfish]

Uhhh, how exactly do you jump from homosexuality to birth control? Male/female sex is normal, preventing unwanted pregnancy is normal. gay sex is not normal.

now, move on.

Preventing unwanted pregnancy is normal? Where in nature among the mammals does that occur?

btw, it's virtually impossible for a woman to get pregnant via anal sex - and you say preventing unwanted pregnancy is normal. You've just made anal sex normal.

anything a man a woman consent to do together is normal for them. two men doing anal is not normal, two women doing mutual cunniligus is not normal. same sex sex is not normal.

So...to you...a man and a woman consenting to anal sex is normal and a man and a woman doing oral sex are normal.

Ah....so it IS about gender only.

yes, of course it is. Always has been, always will be. homosexuality is not a normal condition of adult humans. It is a mental aberation that causes the infected to be attracted sexually to the same sex. It is a mental condition. Mental abnormalities are not normal, thats why they are called abnormalities.

Says you. And we're not going to strip any gay or lesbians of their rights because of your personal opinion.

they have the same rights that I have. A gay man can marry a gay woman or a straight woman. A gay woman can marry a gay or straight man.

two people of the same sex is not a marriage. If you want it to be, then change the constitution.

 

[Skylar]

Preventing unwanted pregnancy is normal? Where in nature among the mammals does that occur?

btw, it's virtually impossible for a woman to get pregnant via anal sex - and you say preventing unwanted pregnancy is normal. You've just made anal sex normal.

anything a man a woman consent to do together is normal for them. two men doing anal is not normal, two women doing mutual cunniligus is not normal. same sex sex is not normal.

So...to you...a man and a woman consenting to anal sex is normal and a man and a woman doing oral sex are normal.

Ah....so it IS about gender only.

yes, of course it is. Always has been, always will be. homosexuality is not a normal condition of adult humans. It is a mental aberation that causes the infected to be attracted sexually to the same sex. It is a mental condition. Mental abnormalities are not normal, thats why they are called abnormalities.

Says you. And we're not going to strip any gay or lesbians of their rights because of your personal opinion.

they have the same rights that I have. A gay man can marry a gay woman or a straight woman. A gay woman can marry a gay or straight man.

As was made so clear on Loving V. Virginia, the restriction itself must meet constitutional muster. And in the case of interracial marriage bans....it couldn't. Even though the law applied to both blacks and whites.

Similarly, for a ban on same sex marriage, you need a very good reason, a compelling state interest, and a valid legislative end. Same sex marriage bans have none of the three.

Rendering them invalid and unconstitutional.

 

[bodecea]

So birth control is abnormal too, I suppose.

Uhhh, how exactly do you jump from homosexuality to birth control? Male/female sex is normal, preventing unwanted pregnancy is normal. gay sex is not normal.

now, move on.

Preventing unwanted pregnancy is normal? Where in nature among the mammals does that occur?

btw, it's virtually impossible for a woman to get pregnant via anal sex - and you say preventing unwanted pregnancy is normal. You've just made anal sex normal.

anything a man a woman consent to do together is normal for them. two men doing anal is not normal, two women doing mutual cunniligus is not normal. same sex sex is not normal.

So...to you...a man and a woman consenting to anal sex is normal and a man and a woman doing oral sex are normal.

Ah....so it IS about gender only.

yes, of course it is. Always has been, always will be. homosexuality is not a normal condition of adult humans. It is a mental aberation that causes the infected to be attracted sexually to the same sex. It is a mental condition. Mental abnormalities are not normal, thats why they are called abnormalities.

So...you admit that it isn't the SAME sex act, it's male/female....that is admitted gender discrimination. You have a problem with gender discrimination. You are a sexist.

 

[bodecea]

Preventing unwanted pregnancy is normal? Where in nature among the mammals does that occur?

btw, it's virtually impossible for a woman to get pregnant via anal sex - and you say preventing unwanted pregnancy is normal. You've just made anal sex normal.

anything a man a woman consent to do together is normal for them. two men doing anal is not normal, two women doing mutual cunniligus is not normal. same sex sex is not normal.

So...to you...a man and a woman consenting to anal sex is normal and a man and a woman doing oral sex are normal.

Ah....so it IS about gender only.

yes, of course it is. Always has been, always will be. homosexuality is not a normal condition of adult humans. It is a mental aberation that causes the infected to be attracted sexually to the same sex. It is a mental condition. Mental abnormalities are not normal, thats why they are called abnormalities.

Says you. And we're not going to strip any gay or lesbians of their rights because of your personal opinion.

they have the same rights that I have. A gay man can marry a gay woman or a straight woman. A gay woman can marry a gay or straight man.

two people of the same sex is not a marriage. If you want it to be, then change the constitution.

How has that argument held up in court so far?

 

[protectionist]

Look, bode. I get it that you are gay and have to defend your lifestyle and pretend that it is a normal human condition. But in so doing you are also defending all kinds of human perversion and making them de facto normal.

The only way to get what you want and prevent the other aberations of marriage would be to process a constitutional amendment allowing 2 person gay marriage and prohibiting all other forms of marriage that do not involve two people.

otherwise there is no legal barrior to calling all other forms of human groupings marriages.

Why do you insist that something is abnormal or perverted just because a minority of people do it?

That's not why it's abnormal/perverted. It's abnormal and perverted because it is contrary to nature. The body parts of animals (including humans) are designed for heterosexual sex, not anything else. Would one walk on his hands instead of feet ? No, of course not. Feet were designed for walking, not hands. The analogy is obvious,

So...you want to dictate what kind of sex people have.

There is no such thing as "kind of sex people have" There is only one kind of sex. Heterosexual. Anything else is a perversion, engaged in by perverts. If they want to be idiots and engage PRIVATELY in that, that could do so, but doing it openly, is HARM to the normal population in that 1). It is disgusting to see and 2). it may influence young, impressionable, unstable kids to acquire the same ailment.

Wait...so now you're saying that fellatio, cunnilingus, analingus and anal penetration are okay as long as it's only straight people doing it? My, aren't you selfish.

Who is having sex "openly"? That's a crime you know.

Gotta spell it out for you ? OK. Penises are designed for vaginas. Mouths are for talking, singing, eating, and drinking. Got it now ? Try not to be a pervert.

 

[protectionist]

anything a man a woman consent to do together is normal for them. two men doing anal is not normal, two women doing mutual cunniligus is not normal. same sex sex is not normal.

So...to you...a man and a woman consenting to anal sex is normal and a man and a woman doing oral sex are normal.

Ah....so it IS about gender only.

yes, of course it is. Always has been, always will be. homosexuality is not a normal condition of adult humans. It is a mental aberation that causes the infected to be attracted sexually to the same sex. It is a mental condition. Mental abnormalities are not normal, thats why they are called abnormalities.

Says you. And we're not going to strip any gay or lesbians of their rights because of your personal opinion.

they have the same rights that I have. A gay man can marry a gay woman or a straight woman. A gay woman can marry a gay or straight man.

As was made so clear on Loving V. Virginia, the restriction itself must meet constitutional muster. And in the case of interracial marriage bans....it couldn't. Even though the law applied to both blacks and whites.

Similarly, for a ban on same sex marriage, you need a very good reason, a compelling state interest, and a valid legislative end. Same sex marriage bans have none of the three.

Rendering them invalid and unconstitutional.

Of course they have good reasons. To allow same sex marriage is to validate sexual perversion, mass insanity, and a harmful display of abnormality to kids.

 

[protectionist]

Look, bode. I get it that you are gay and have to defend your lifestyle and pretend that it is a normal human condition. But in so doing you are also defending all kinds of human perversion and making them de facto normal.

The only way to get what you want and prevent the other aberations of marriage would be to process a constitutional amendment allowing 2 person gay marriage and prohibiting all other forms of marriage that do not involve two people.

otherwise there is no legal barrior to calling all other forms of human groupings marriages.

Why do you insist that something is abnormal or perverted just because a minority of people do it?

That's not why it's abnormal/perverted. It's abnormal and perverted because it is contrary to nature. The body parts of animals (including humans) are designed for heterosexual sex, not anything else. Would one walk on his hands instead of feet ? No, of course not. Feet were designed for walking, not hands. The analogy is obvious,

So...you want to dictate what kind of sex people have.

There is no such thing as "kind of sex people have" There is only one kind of sex. Heterosexual. Anything else is a perversion, engaged in by perverts.

Says you. And you're nobody.

Look, bode. I get it that you are gay and have to defend your lifestyle and pretend that it is a normal human condition. But in so doing you are also defending all kinds of human perversion and making them de facto normal.

The only way to get what you want and prevent the other aberations of marriage would be to process a constitutional amendment allowing 2 person gay marriage and prohibiting all other forms of marriage that do not involve two people.

otherwise there is no legal barrior to calling all other forms of human groupings marriages.

Why do you insist that something is abnormal or perverted just because a minority of people do it?

That's not why it's abnormal/perverted. It's abnormal and perverted because it is contrary to nature. The body parts of animals (including humans) are designed for heterosexual sex, not anything else. Would one walk on his hands instead of feet ? No, of course not. Feet were designed for walking, not hands. The analogy is obvious,

So...you want to dictate what kind of sex people have.

There is no such thing as "kind of sex people have" There is only one kind of sex. Heterosexual. Anything else is a perversion, engaged in by perverts.

Says you. And you're nobody.

Look, bode. I get it that you are gay and have to defend your lifestyle and pretend that it is a normal human condition. But in so doing you are also defending all kinds of human perversion and making them de facto normal.

The only way to get what you want and prevent the other aberations of marriage would be to process a constitutional amendment allowing 2 person gay marriage and prohibiting all other forms of marriage that do not involve two people.

otherwise there is no legal barrior to calling all other forms of human groupings marriages.

Why do you insist that something is abnormal or perverted just because a minority of people do it?

That's not why it's abnormal/perverted. It's abnormal and perverted because it is contrary to nature. The body parts of animals (including humans) are designed for heterosexual sex, not anything else. Would one walk on his hands instead of feet ? No, of course not. Feet were designed for walking, not hands. The analogy is obvious,

So...you want to dictate what kind of sex people have.

There is no such thing as "kind of sex people have" There is only one kind of sex. Heterosexual. Anything else is a perversion, engaged in by perverts.

Says you. And you're nobody.

Not in your eyes. To you, I'm somebody very important. If that wasn't the case, you wouldn't be responding to my posts, and trying to defeat them. You see me as very important because you know I'm right, and I'm good at expressing it. You see me as a major threat to your warped mindset, and you fear that. You're shitting in your pants. I love it.

 

[Redfish]

anything a man a woman consent to do together is normal for them. two men doing anal is not normal, two women doing mutual cunniligus is not normal. same sex sex is not normal.

So...to you...a man and a woman consenting to anal sex is normal and a man and a woman doing oral sex are normal.

Ah....so it IS about gender only.

yes, of course it is. Always has been, always will be. homosexuality is not a normal condition of adult humans. It is a mental aberation that causes the infected to be attracted sexually to the same sex. It is a mental condition. Mental abnormalities are not normal, thats why they are called abnormalities.

Says you. And we're not going to strip any gay or lesbians of their rights because of your personal opinion.

they have the same rights that I have. A gay man can marry a gay woman or a straight woman. A gay woman can marry a gay or straight man.

As was made so clear on Loving V. Virginia, the restriction itself must meet constitutional muster. And in the case of interracial marriage bans....it couldn't. Even though the law applied to both blacks and whites.

Similarly, for a ban on same sex marriage, you need a very good reason, a compelling state interest, and a valid legislative end. Same sex marriage bans have none of the three.

Rendering them invalid and unconstitutional.

Loving involved a man and a woman. not two men or two women---------------it isn't the same thing

 

[Redfish]

anything a man a woman consent to do together is normal for them. two men doing anal is not normal, two women doing mutual cunniligus is not normal. same sex sex is not normal.

So...to you...a man and a woman consenting to anal sex is normal and a man and a woman doing oral sex are normal.

Ah....so it IS about gender only.

yes, of course it is. Always has been, always will be. homosexuality is not a normal condition of adult humans. It is a mental aberation that causes the infected to be attracted sexually to the same sex. It is a mental condition. Mental abnormalities are not normal, thats why they are called abnormalities.

Says you. And we're not going to strip any gay or lesbians of their rights because of your personal opinion.

they have the same rights that I have. A gay man can marry a gay woman or a straight woman. A gay woman can marry a gay or straight man.

two people of the same sex is not a marriage. If you want it to be, then change the constitution.

How has that argument held up in court so far?

Its not over yet, we are still in the first quarter of this game. Lots more time, lots more court cases. Lots more votes.

 

[Redfish]

Uhhh, how exactly do you jump from homosexuality to birth control? Male/female sex is normal, preventing unwanted pregnancy is normal. gay sex is not normal.

now, move on.

Preventing unwanted pregnancy is normal? Where in nature among the mammals does that occur?

btw, it's virtually impossible for a woman to get pregnant via anal sex - and you say preventing unwanted pregnancy is normal. You've just made anal sex normal.

anything a man a woman consent to do together is normal for them. two men doing anal is not normal, two women doing mutual cunniligus is not normal. same sex sex is not normal.

So...to you...a man and a woman consenting to anal sex is normal and a man and a woman doing oral sex are normal.

Ah....so it IS about gender only.

yes, of course it is. Always has been, always will be. homosexuality is not a normal condition of adult humans. It is a mental aberation that causes the infected to be attracted sexually to the same sex. It is a mental condition. Mental abnormalities are not normal, thats why they are called abnormalities.

So...you admit that it isn't the SAME sex act, it's male/female....that is admitted gender discrimination. You have a problem with gender discrimination. You are a sexist.

that makes no sense. are you on drugs?