"Biden's documents are different from Trump's documents"

[Godboy]

Trump stopped being the president on January 20th 2021. A few reasons that he would need to report it to an authority. First is that he's currently embroiled in legal fight over these documents and had plenty of opportunity to state these documents were declassified. He never did. Second is what I already said that you passed right over. Making these documents declassified makes them available to FOIA requests. These are documents that belong to the government, after all. We paid for them. If they're not classified, then we have a right to see them.

Your assertion that these documents are all declassified is purely speculative, or to use your language a "silly claim".

There is no written law, rule or procedure for which a president declassifies documents. Dont blame me, blame the people who set it up this way.

 

[Billiejeens]

Imagine that, the lefty MSM trying to claim that the two are different.

You know that they are all in the same cult.

 

[Marener]

There is no written law, rule or procedure for which a president declassifies documents. Dont blame me, blame the people who set it up this way.

Like I said, your assertion they were declassified is based on nothing.

 

[Godboy]

Like I said, your assertion they were declassified is based on nothing.

They are based on the Presidents word. Can you prove that he didnt declassify them under the current system for which presidents can declassify at will with no authority? If they set it up to where presidents can do it this way, then we cant require proof after the fact. Either they can do it at will or they cant. If you guys dont like this system, change it. Until then you have NOTHING.

 

[Nostra]

IMPEACH!

 

[JoeMoma]

It's common practice for presidents to keep "classified documents" after leaving office. The democrats and the deep state and the main stream media, etc. simply want to take Trump out because Orange Man Bad.

 

[Godboy]

It's common practice for presidents to keep "classified documents" after leaving office. The democrats and the deep state and the main stream media, etc. simply want to take Trump out because Orange Man Bad.

Joe Biden wasnt a president though when he took them, so what he did was HIGHLY illegal.

 

[Blaster]

 

[Marener]

They are based on the Presidents word. Can you prove that he didnt declassify them under the current system for which presidents can declassify at will with no authority? If they set it up to where presidents can do it this way, then we cant require proof after the fact. Either they can do it at will or they cant. If you guys dont like this system, change it. Until then you have NOTHING.

Biden is the president, not Trump. Trump no longer has any authority to declassify documents and stating so on social media has zero legal relevance and zero legal repercussions for lying.

Trump's statements on social media are completely worthless.

Until Trump claims they were declassified in court, I have no need to prove a baseless assertion false.

But you also forgot that Trump was issued a subpoena for any documents marked classified. It was a subpoena which he did not honor.

 

[Godboy]

Biden is the president, not Trump. Trump no longer has any authority to declassify documents and stating so on social media has zero legal relevance and zero legal repercussions for lying.

Trump's statements on social media are completely worthless.

Until Trump claims they were declassified in court, I have no need to prove a baseless assertion false.

But you also forgot that Trump was issued a subpoena for any documents marked classified. It was a subpoena which he did not honor.

Trump declassified them WHEN he was president. He said so himself. Could he be lying? Abso-fucking-lutely, but the system for which a president declassifies materials isnt written out. There is no law or procedure for it, so we simply have to take them at their word because we sure as hell cant prove them wrong.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

Its just different, you know.

 

[Nostra]

Time for a Veggie Joe Perp walk.

 

[hadit]

The bottom line remains, if it was wrong for TRUMP! to take classified documents, it was wrong for Quid Pro to do it too. Any hand-wringing attempts to justify the one while excoriating the other is just sophistry.

 

[Billiejeens]

Joe Biden wasnt a president though when he took them, so what he did was HIGHLY illegal.

Lock that little squirrelly bastard up,
Feed him the key ad make him search his own depends to find it.

 

[basquebromance]

...I have been seeing a lot of people claiming this, so lets examine the differences.


"Biden's team reported it immediately, unlike Trump"

Correction, Biden's LAWYER who randomly found the documents reported it immediately. Why? Because he is a lawyer who knows that if he didnt do that, he would now be a part of this crime too. He isnt going to take the fall for The Big Guy. He already knows that the Biden's are going to be heavily investigated. He undoubtedly wants no part of that. Also, reporting it now doesnt mean that the crime of taking them in the first place wasnt committed. Admitting to murder doesnt mean you wont get in trouble for it.


"Biden only had 10 documents while Trump had 100"

Trump had a bunch of random stuff, like letters from Kim Jong Un. The amount of documents is irrelevant. Its either a crime to take documents or it isnt. Furthermore, according to CNN, Biden had material with the SCI classification, which is higher than Top Secret. This is the order of classification from lowest to highest... Classified, Secret, Top Secret, SCI. Also, its important to point out that Hillary had HUNDREDS of documents. Way more than Trump.


"Biden didnt know he had them, while Trump did know and he still refused to give them up."

You would have to be a fool to think that Biden didnt know. Aint no one gonna believe that horseshit. Biden also didnt have declassification powers as VP. Trump can declassify at will. I know you democrats will say "nuh uh", but you cant prove my statement wrong beyond that. Worse case scenario is that a legal debate will take place to determine if presidents can do what Trump did, but currently it isnt illegal. Biden taking them however is HIGHLY illegal and it isnt legally debatable.



More differences im seeing are the fact that we knew immediately in real time about Trumps documents. Bidens document scandal was hidden for 2 months. It was hidden right before the midterm elections in fact. I think we can all agree that there isnt a chance in fucking hell that Biden's homes will get raided by the FBI, unlike Trump. Hillary didnt get raided either, nor did Bill Clinton.

both Biden and Trump are at the American people's feet. we need new parties, fresh ideas!

 

[scruffy]

Like I said, your assertion they were declassified is based on nothing.

And your assertion that they were classified is based on... what?

 

[Marener]

Trump declassified them WHEN he was president. He said so himself. Could he be lying? Abso-fucking-lutely, but the system for which a president declassifies materials isnt written out. There is no law or procedure for it, so we simply have to take them at their word because we sure as hell cant prove them wrong.

We definitely don’t have to take him for his word, especially when his word only exists on social media.

Until he makes the claim in court, it’s irrelevant. His statement on social media is meaningless.

You still are desperate to ignore the fact that he was issued a subpoena which he did not honor.

 

[martybegan]

Trump has never formally asserted to any authority in the government that these documents were declassified. Even if they were, there are still two problems. First problem is that they're still not his. Declassifying documents makes them available for FOIA request, which they weren't. Second problem is that he was issued a subpoena that compelled him to return the documents whether he declassified them or not. Trump had no legal authority to defy that subpoena.

I read the OP, and can poke more holes in it if needed.

Tired of Biden's dick in your mouth?

Talk about spinning to defend what you recently attacked. Doublethink is strong with you, Syme.

And remember what happened to Syme, despite his Orthodoxy.

 

[Marener]

The bottom line remains, if it was wrong for TRUMP! to take classified documents, it was wrong for Quid Pro to do it too. Any hand-wringing attempts to justify the one while excoriating the other is just sophistry.

If Trump had returned the documents when asked the first time, it never would have escalated to a search warrant.

 

[MAGA Macho Man]

Update!

Read this:

There’s A Difference Between Biden And Trump’s Classified Documents Snafus, But It’s Not What You Think​

Difference In Biden And Trump's Classified Docs Isn't What You Think

The National Archives and Records Administration's lack of cooperation with Trump marks the real difference in the situations.

thefederalist.com