Biden: U.S. won't play favorites between Israelis, Palestinians

[Modbert]

That's why the US should play favorites.

Playing favorites is what has us in Afghanistan and Iraq today.

Just sayin.

 

[Xenophon]

Interesting position considering that Israel is an ally. Israel is a legally established state and the PA is a terrorist insurgency. How hard is that for people to understand?

Well, its afterall Joe Biden...

 

[CMike]

Arieh O'Sullivan, the Post reporter who made the newspaper's transcript, said the Israeli Air Force tapes he listened to contained blank spaces. He said he assumed those blank spaces occurred while Israeli pilots were conducting their strafing runs and had nothing to communicate.

'But sir, it's an American ship!'

Forslund, Gotcher and Block are not alone in claiming to have read transcripts of the attack that they said left no doubt the Israelis knew they were attempting to sink a U.S. Navy ship.

enjoy, motherfucker.


Forslund's recollections are supported by those of two other Air Force intelligence specialists, working in widely separate locations, who say they also saw the transcripts of the attacking Israeli pilots' communications.

One is James Gotcher, now an attorney in California, who was then serving with the Air Force Security Service's 6924th Security Squadron, an adjunct of the NSA, at Son Tra, Vietnam.

"It was clear that the Israeli aircraft were being vectored directly at USS Liberty," Gotcher recalled in an e-mail. "Later, around the time Liberty got off a distress call, the controllers seemed to panic and urged the aircraft to 'complete the job' and get out of there."



The transcripts Block remembered seeing "were teletypes, way beyond Top Secret. Some of the pilots did not want to attack," Block said. "The pilots said, 'This is an American ship. Do you still want us to attack?'

"And ground control came back and said, 'Yes, follow orders.'"



Block, now a child protection caseworker in Florida, observed that "the fact that the Israeli pilots clearly identified the ship as American and asked for further instructions from ground control appears to be a missing part of that Jerusalem Post article."


"They said, 'We've got him in the zero,'" Kirby recalled, "whatever that meant -- I guess the sights or something. And then one of them said, 'Can you see the flag?' They said 'Yes, it's U.S, it's U.S.' They said it several times, so there wasn't any doubt in anybody's mind that they knew it."

Kirby, now 86 and retired in Texas, said the transcripts were "something that's bothered me all my life. I'm willing to swear on a stack of Bibles that we knew they knew."


New revelations in attack on American spy ship - chicagotribune.com

I don't care what he remembered. It's utterly irreleveant what some idiots think. All the US government investigations ruled it was an accident.

I just posted the declassified transcript.

P.S. You are a douchebag.

so.. let me get this strait, you stupid son of a bitch:


the memory of first hand accounts and witnesses who were THERE is worthless....

Douche bag, please explain how people on the ship knew whether the Israelis knew it was an american ship or not?

but the fabricated opinions of investigating bodies who had barely the slightest grasp on truth when it marred politics is GOLDEN?....

They are not fabricated opinions. They are the sworn testimony of the relevant witnesses. The US Naval Inquest was about 900 pages and public. I posted the link to it.

Also the conclusion was signed under oath by the three judges of the US Naval Inquest.

I know your sordid ilk hate america, that's why you are calling the US Navy, the NSA, the Joint Chiefs, and the CIA all liars.

and then when I prove to you that your goofy fucking transcript isn't as solid as you seem to think THIS is your rebuttal?

The transcript is the declassified document from the NSA. It's completely solid.

I don't care what some dorks say in a book, I posted the link to the actual document. Anyone can read it. Also anyone can read the entire US Naval Inquest proceedings. All approx. 800 pages. I posted the links.

P.S. You are a douche bag.

 

[CMike]

All countries spy on each other.

Is there a point?

What does it have to do with palestinians celebrating 911 and kidnapping a journalist to keep him from revealing the video?

Sounds like someone's making a excuse about something.

Not really. All countries spy on each each other. The US does espionage against Israel.

The difference is that the arabs try to kill americans.

 

[CMike]

1) The palestinians danced and celebrated the Sept 11 attack.

2) The Palestinian Authority even kidnapped a journalist who filmed it, and threatened to kill him if he released the video

3) And Biden is confused who the enemy is?

4) Biden is a moron

 

[CMike]

That's why the US should play favorites.

who are you REALLY trying to convince here, you traitorous motherfucker?

Obviously not the arab traitors who dance and celebrate when americans are murdered.

 

[CMike]

Arieh O'Sullivan, the Post reporter who made the newspaper's transcript, said the Israeli Air Force tapes he listened to contained blank spaces. He said he assumed those blank spaces occurred while Israeli pilots were conducting their strafing runs and had nothing to communicate.

'But sir, it's an American ship!'

Forslund, Gotcher and Block are not alone in claiming to have read transcripts of the attack that they said left no doubt the Israelis knew they were attempting to sink a U.S. Navy ship.

enjoy, motherfucker.


Forslund's recollections are supported by those of two other Air Force intelligence specialists, working in widely separate locations, who say they also saw the transcripts of the attacking Israeli pilots' communications.

One is James Gotcher, now an attorney in California, who was then serving with the Air Force Security Service's 6924th Security Squadron, an adjunct of the NSA, at Son Tra, Vietnam.

"It was clear that the Israeli aircraft were being vectored directly at USS Liberty," Gotcher recalled in an e-mail. "Later, around the time Liberty got off a distress call, the controllers seemed to panic and urged the aircraft to 'complete the job' and get out of there."



The transcripts Block remembered seeing "were teletypes, way beyond Top Secret. Some of the pilots did not want to attack," Block said. "The pilots said, 'This is an American ship. Do you still want us to attack?'

"And ground control came back and said, 'Yes, follow orders.'"



Block, now a child protection caseworker in Florida, observed that "the fact that the Israeli pilots clearly identified the ship as American and asked for further instructions from ground control appears to be a missing part of that Jerusalem Post article."


"They said, 'We've got him in the zero,'" Kirby recalled, "whatever that meant -- I guess the sights or something. And then one of them said, 'Can you see the flag?' They said 'Yes, it's U.S, it's U.S.' They said it several times, so there wasn't any doubt in anybody's mind that they knew it."

Kirby, now 86 and retired in Texas, said the transcripts were "something that's bothered me all my life. I'm willing to swear on a stack of Bibles that we knew they knew."


New revelations in attack on American spy ship - chicagotribune.com

Go back to sleep, stoner. Nobody cares about your drug-induced hallucinations.

given how long this topic has been around you'd be wrong about one more thing in life, concrete pourer.


I'm sure **** groupies like Cmike will feel differently though. I hear his personal salvation depends on believing you with no questions asked.

You are a douche bag.

 

[CMike]

Terror in the USA - The Palestinians Celebrate!

Palestinians Celebrate Attacks with Gunfire
By Joseph Logan

BEIRUT (Reuters) - Palestinians in Lebanon met news of devastating attacks on American targets Tuesday with jubilant gunfire, dancing and cheering, saying Israel's chief backer deserved such a punishment.
"This is the result of American policy. America and Israel are one," one Palestinian gunman said.

"This is the reaction required to confront the American and Israeli arrogance," said Mohamad Hallak, a 40-year-old Palestinian refugee from the southern Rashidiyeh camp in Tyre.

Firing rattled across Palestinian refugee camps in Lebanon and the West Bank as soon as television stations broke the news, carrying live footage of buildings on fire and collapsing and terrified Americans fleeing the stricken areas.

Jubilant Palestinians took to the streets of refugee camps of Lebanon and the West Bank, waving Palestinian flags and distributing sweets to celebrate the attacks on major U.S. landmarks and government offices.
Some Lebanese shared the joy.

"We're ecstatic. Let America have a taste of what we've tasted," said Ali Mareh, a Lebanese resident of Beirut.

"People are happy. America has always supported terrorism. They see how the innocent Palestinian children are killed and they back the Zionist army that does it. America has never been on the side of justice," said Samir, a Lebanese.

"This is the language that the United States understands and this is the way to stop America from helping the Zionist terrorists who are killing our children, men and women everyday," said Mohamed Rasheed, a Palestinian.

Lebanon is home to some to 360,000 Palestinian refugees. After four generations of exile, many Palestinians feel embittered against the United States for its support of Israel -- a feeling which has grown during the present uprising in the occupied territories of the West Bank and Gaza.

"Today is a feast for the Palestinians. We do not differentiate between America and Israel. America is our prime enemy," added another Palestinian.
Palestinian President Yasser Arafat condemned the attacks which leveled the twin towers of the World Trade Center in New York City and struck the Pentagon in Washington.

Palestinians who have often burned U.S. flags in protests during their 11-month-old uprising against Israeli occupation also celebrated in the streets of Arab East Jerusalem.

"I feel I am in a dream. I never believed that one day the United States would come to pay a price for its support to Israel," said Mustafa, a 24-year-old Palestinian gunman.

 

[Shogun]

Arieh O'Sullivan, the Post reporter who made the newspaper's transcript, said the Israeli Air Force tapes he listened to contained blank spaces. He said he assumed those blank spaces occurred while Israeli pilots were conducting their strafing runs and had nothing to communicate.

'But sir, it's an American ship!'

Forslund, Gotcher and Block are not alone in claiming to have read transcripts of the attack that they said left no doubt the Israelis knew they were attempting to sink a U.S. Navy ship.

enjoy, motherfucker.


Forslund's recollections are supported by those of two other Air Force intelligence specialists, working in widely separate locations, who say they also saw the transcripts of the attacking Israeli pilots' communications.

One is James Gotcher, now an attorney in California, who was then serving with the Air Force Security Service's 6924th Security Squadron, an adjunct of the NSA, at Son Tra, Vietnam.

"It was clear that the Israeli aircraft were being vectored directly at USS Liberty," Gotcher recalled in an e-mail. "Later, around the time Liberty got off a distress call, the controllers seemed to panic and urged the aircraft to 'complete the job' and get out of there."



The transcripts Block remembered seeing "were teletypes, way beyond Top Secret. Some of the pilots did not want to attack," Block said. "The pilots said, 'This is an American ship. Do you still want us to attack?'

"And ground control came back and said, 'Yes, follow orders.'"



Block, now a child protection caseworker in Florida, observed that "the fact that the Israeli pilots clearly identified the ship as American and asked for further instructions from ground control appears to be a missing part of that Jerusalem Post article."


"They said, 'We've got him in the zero,'" Kirby recalled, "whatever that meant -- I guess the sights or something. And then one of them said, 'Can you see the flag?' They said 'Yes, it's U.S, it's U.S.' They said it several times, so there wasn't any doubt in anybody's mind that they knew it."

Kirby, now 86 and retired in Texas, said the transcripts were "something that's bothered me all my life. I'm willing to swear on a stack of Bibles that we knew they knew."


New revelations in attack on American spy ship - chicagotribune.com

I don't care what he remembered. It's utterly irreleveant what some idiots think. All the US government investigations ruled it was an accident.

I just posted the declassified transcript.

P.S. You are a douchebag.

Douche bag, please explain how people on the ship knew whether the Israelis knew it was an american ship or not?

but the fabricated opinions of investigating bodies who had barely the slightest grasp on truth when it marred politics is GOLDEN?....

They are not fabricated opinions. They are the sworn testimony of the relevant witnesses. The US Naval Inquest was about 900 pages and public. I posted the link to it.

Also the conclusion was signed under oath by the three judges of the US Naval Inquest.

I know your sordid ilk hate america, that's why you are calling the US Navy, the NSA, the Joint Chiefs, and the CIA all liars.

and then when I prove to you that your goofy fucking transcript isn't as solid as you seem to think THIS is your rebuttal?

The transcript is the declassified document from the NSA. It's completely solid.

I don't care what some dorks say in a book, I posted the link to the actual document. Anyone can read it. Also anyone can read the entire US Naval Inquest proceedings. All approx. 800 pages. I posted the links.

P.S. You are a douche bag.

I posted my evidence, motherfucker. If you choose to ignore it then so be it. That you seem to think that 1. testimony is not opinion and 2. politicized conclusions usurp the experience of those who were THERE I guess it's no wonder why I have you by the throat crying about me being an asshole.

 

[Shogun]

All countries spy on each other.

Is there a point?

What does it have to do with palestinians celebrating 911 and kidnapping a journalist to keep him from revealing the video?

Sounds like someone's making a excuse about something.

Not really. All countries spy on each each other. The US does espionage against Israel.

The difference is that the arabs try to kill americans.

you get that, dog? don't blame jews until you blame a muslim for something.


got it?

 

[Shogun]

That's why the US should play favorites.

who are you REALLY trying to convince here, you traitorous motherfucker?

Obviously not the arab traitors who dance and celebrate when americans are murdered.

how are they any different from YOU who dance when they are murdered, motherfucker?

hear any good pancake jokes lately, bitch?

 

[Shogun]

Go back to sleep, stoner. Nobody cares about your drug-induced hallucinations.

given how long this topic has been around you'd be wrong about one more thing in life, concrete pourer.


I'm sure **** groupies like Cmike will feel differently though. I hear his personal salvation depends on believing you with no questions asked.

You are a douche bag.

and you are a disingenuous piece of shit that makes me wish jebus WAS real so he could spit in your fucking face and tell you to depart from him.

 

[Shogun]

Terror in the USA - The Palestinians Celebrate!

Palestinians Celebrate Attacks with Gunfire
By Joseph Logan

BEIRUT (Reuters) - Palestinians in Lebanon met news of devastating attacks on American targets Tuesday with jubilant gunfire, dancing and cheering, saying Israel's chief backer deserved such a punishment.
"This is the result of American policy. America and Israel are one," one Palestinian gunman said.

"This is the reaction required to confront the American and Israeli arrogance," said Mohamad Hallak, a 40-year-old Palestinian refugee from the southern Rashidiyeh camp in Tyre.

Firing rattled across Palestinian refugee camps in Lebanon and the West Bank as soon as television stations broke the news, carrying live footage of buildings on fire and collapsing and terrified Americans fleeing the stricken areas.

Jubilant Palestinians took to the streets of refugee camps of Lebanon and the West Bank, waving Palestinian flags and distributing sweets to celebrate the attacks on major U.S. landmarks and government offices.
Some Lebanese shared the joy.

"We're ecstatic. Let America have a taste of what we've tasted," said Ali Mareh, a Lebanese resident of Beirut.

"People are happy. America has always supported terrorism. They see how the innocent Palestinian children are killed and they back the Zionist army that does it. America has never been on the side of justice," said Samir, a Lebanese.

"This is the language that the United States understands and this is the way to stop America from helping the Zionist terrorists who are killing our children, men and women everyday," said Mohamed Rasheed, a Palestinian.

Lebanon is home to some to 360,000 Palestinian refugees. After four generations of exile, many Palestinians feel embittered against the United States for its support of Israel -- a feeling which has grown during the present uprising in the occupied territories of the West Bank and Gaza.

"Today is a feast for the Palestinians. We do not differentiate between America and Israel. America is our prime enemy," added another Palestinian.
Palestinian President Yasser Arafat condemned the attacks which leveled the twin towers of the World Trade Center in New York City and struck the Pentagon in Washington.

Palestinians who have often burned U.S. flags in protests during their 11-month-old uprising against Israeli occupation also celebrated in the streets of Arab East Jerusalem.

"I feel I am in a dream. I never believed that one day the United States would come to pay a price for its support to Israel," said Mustafa, a 24-year-old Palestinian gunman.

Maria says she saw three young men kneeling on the roof of a white van in the parking lot of her apartment building. "They seemed to be taking a movie," Maria said.

The men were taking video or photos of themselves with the World Trade Center burning in the background, she said. What struck Maria were the expressions on the men's faces. "They were like happy, you know … They didn't look shocked to me. I thought it was very strange," she said.


Were Israelis Detained on Sept. 11 Spies? - ABC News

 

[CMike]

Maria Should Lay Off Drugs

 

[Shogun]

Maria Should Lay Off Drugs

profound rebuttal!




funny how it's always someone ELSE who is wrong, eh motherfucker? Even those with first hand knowledge!




PATTERN!

 

[CMike]

Because anyone can find someone called "Maria" to say anything. It proves nothing.

 

[CMike]

Shogun working on his posts

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[CMike]

P.S. You are a douche bag.

 

[CMike]

given how long this topic has been around you'd be wrong about one more thing in life, concrete pourer.


I'm sure **** groupies like Cmike will feel differently though. I hear his personal salvation depends on believing you with no questions asked.

You are a douche bag.

and you are a disingenuous piece of shit that makes me wish jebus WAS real so he could spit in your fucking face and tell you to depart from him.

Have you tried this method to overcome your problem?

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[Kalam]

on the first thing - lol....OF COURSE zionist ideology concerns itself with the well being of the jewish state. just as american ideology conerns itself with the well being of the united states and german ideology concerns itself with the well being of the german state...

My point is that those who are concerned primarily with the preservation of a certain state should live in that state. When we have American or German citizens whose loyalties lie with a foreign country, a problem exists. I'd prefer not to live under a government that has been infiltrated by servants of a nation that would consider me an enemy.

and about that 9/11 comment -

Take it up with FOX, not me.