Benefits of adding grades 13 and 14 to Secondary Ed.

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    The USA needs to get realistic and quit pretending that it's demographics are not rapidly changing. There are many more unintelligent teachers and students in public schools than there used to be.
     
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    Bullshit.
     
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    if the system isn't failing, why do people like you want to expand it and dump more money into it?
     
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    When 80% of students who "graduate" high school can't read or write, it's a failed system that needs to be completely revamped.

    We shouldn't reward failure by expansion
     
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    If you can't make someone employable after 12 years of schooling, you never will.
     
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    I have never said I wanted to pour more money into the public education system. My take away from all of you conservatives who make this claim, and also feel the taxpayer should subsidize with vouchers alternative schools, believe the private sector, in all areas even beyond the education system, is good and anything touched by the government is not good, and even bad.

    Clearly I hold a different opinion. The private sector, by definition, is profit driven. That is not meant to state they do not, or can not do a better job than our current public school system, it's just a fact.

    Private schools do not need, and are mostly unwilling, to allow a student who is disruptive to remain in the classroom, or even within their private school system. Public schools must take every student, unless the student's behavior is a danger to others or themselves. However, the public school system is not off the hook, since every child within their community is required to receive educational services, paid for by the taxpayer.

    Of course I also believe the hidden agenda behind the voucher movement is an effort by its advocates to brainwash a child. Sometimes with great subtlety, as when, "under God" was inserted into the Pledge of Alliance.
     
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    Go find the "Waiting for Superman" documentary on NetFlix or other platforms. This is a WAR. Lives are being lost every new school year. We need to TRIAGE the situation..

    And the 1st step is separate the parents that a give a shit from those who don't. That is what the documentary is about. About 4500 parents queing up (Lottery Style) for just a couple hundred VOUCHERS that get THEIR kids out of dangerous failing schools.. And the pain of NOT getting them..

    We owe all the parents WHO CARE -- immediate relief. And deal with the other types of situations in other battles. Go WATCH IT --- and tell me you're just gonna ignore them... THEY KNOW what their solution looks like.
     
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    Yeah, let's all support Segregation, that'll be the panacea.

    SARCASM ALERT
     
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    I would be more in favor of replacing the 11th and 12th grades with career skills training. Sometimes it’s the bright kids that would rather learn a trade than go to college for a Bull Shit degree.
     
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    You're not gonna watch the carnage of keeping MOTIVATED parents panicked without hope. DARE YOU to watch it. And it's not segregation. It's actually in MOST cases works to the advantage of INTEGRATION.

    You got nothing.. Watch the documentary..
     

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