Before 1948

[Kondor3]

Before 1948

The Ghost of Ramadan Dama Ding-Dong Past...

No longer relevant...

 

[montelatici]

 

[Roudy]

Even BEFORE 1948 Jews & were being massacred & ethnically cleansed in & around the holy land by Muslims. Hey I have an idea. Lets blame it on Israel.

Point of No Return: Jewish Refugees from Arab Countries: Massacres of Jews by Muslims before 1948

Another Hasbara site. Do you morons think anyone, except you morons, take propaganda sites seriously?

Do You deny Jews were discriminated against and mascaraed in Palestine prior to Zionism?

His insane claim is...drum roll please....there were no Jews back then!

He's a fucking psychotic jew hater, what do you expect.

 

[Roudy]

They were not targeted first. The Druzes attacked the Christians before the massacre at Safed, and the Sunni do not consider them Muslim. It was civil strife. The Jews, at the time were considered Arabs, quit making things up. They were Arab Jews, like Arab Christians, Arab Sunnis or Arab Druze. The only real Arabians were the Bedouin who were not involved and were roaming around as they have always done.

And you think Arab Muslims didn't persecute the "Arab Jews"?! What a fucking moron!

 

[MJB12741]

And there are those who still wonder why no peace?

Palestinians: We Will Not Accept a Jewish Israel

 

[montelatici]

And there are those who still wonder why no peace?

Palestinians: We Will Not Accept a Jewish Israel

With Israel's de facto annexation of the whole of Palestine, how could they accept a Jewish Israel when Muslims and Christians outnumber Jews in the land controlled by the Jews. Like all modern developed countires, Israel will have to become a normal secular state. What if the U.S. declared itself a Christian state, how would American Jews/Hindus/Muslims accept that?

 

[MJB12741]

And there are those who still wonder why no peace?

Palestinians: We Will Not Accept a Jewish Israel

With Israel's de facto annexation of the whole of Palestine, how could they accept a Jewish Israel when Muslims and Christians outnumber Jews in the land controlled by the Jews. Like all modern developed countires, Israel will have to become a normal secular state. What if the U.S. declared itself a Christian state, how would American Jews/Hindus/Muslims accept that?

HUH??? America is a Christian state, or country. Big difference is peoples of all faith are welcome here & treated equally. You know, just like in Muslim countries, right?

 

[montelatici]

And there are those who still wonder why no peace?

Palestinians: We Will Not Accept a Jewish Israel

With Israel's de facto annexation of the whole of Palestine, how could they accept a Jewish Israel when Muslims and Christians outnumber Jews in the land controlled by the Jews. Like all modern developed countires, Israel will have to become a normal secular state. What if the U.S. declared itself a Christian state, how would American Jews/Hindus/Muslims accept that?

HUH??? America is a Christian state, or country. Big difference is peoples of all faith are welcome here & treated equally. You know, just like in Muslim countries, right?

Where is it written anywhere in the constitution or the law that the U.S. is a Christian state? In fact the constituion says exactly the opposite. We are not a theocracy.

You people are so ignorant and uneducated it is really unfair to debate you.

It's the first amendment to the Constitution.

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."

 

[MJB12741]

And there are those who still wonder why no peace?

Palestinians: We Will Not Accept a Jewish Israel

With Israel's de facto annexation of the whole of Palestine, how could they accept a Jewish Israel when Muslims and Christians outnumber Jews in the land controlled by the Jews. Like all modern developed countires, Israel will have to become a normal secular state. What if the U.S. declared itself a Christian state, how would American Jews/Hindus/Muslims accept that?

HUH??? America is a Christian state, or country. Big difference is peoples of all faith are welcome here & treated equally. You know, just like in Muslim countries, right?

Where is it written anywhere in the constitution or the law that the U.S. is a Christian state? In fact the constituion says exactly the opposite. We are not a theocracy.

You people are so ignorant and uneducated it is really unfair to debate you.

It's the first amendment to the Constitution.

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."

Right on. You are beginning to get it. Not bad for a predominantly Christian nation.

 

[rylah]

And there are those who still wonder why no peace?

Palestinians: We Will Not Accept a Jewish Israel

With Israel's de facto annexation of the whole of Palestine, how could they accept a Jewish Israel when Muslims and Christians outnumber Jews in the land controlled by the Jews. Like all modern developed countires, Israel will have to become a normal secular state. What if the U.S. declared itself a Christian state, how would American Jews/Hindus/Muslims accept that?

HUH??? America is a Christian state, or country. Big difference is peoples of all faith are welcome here & treated equally. You know, just like in Muslim countries, right?

Where is it written anywhere in the constitution or the law that the U.S. is a Christian state? In fact the constituion says exactly the opposite. We are not a theocracy.

You people are so ignorant and uneducated it is really unfair to debate you.

It's the first amendment to the Constitution.

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."

Well there's no tribalism in the US, or any of its' borders either.

 

[montelatici]

And there are those who still wonder why no peace?

Palestinians: We Will Not Accept a Jewish Israel

With Israel's de facto annexation of the whole of Palestine, how could they accept a Jewish Israel when Muslims and Christians outnumber Jews in the land controlled by the Jews. Like all modern developed countires, Israel will have to become a normal secular state. What if the U.S. declared itself a Christian state, how would American Jews/Hindus/Muslims accept that?

HUH??? America is a Christian state, or country. Big difference is peoples of all faith are welcome here & treated equally. You know, just like in Muslim countries, right?

Where is it written anywhere in the constitution or the law that the U.S. is a Christian state? In fact the constituion says exactly the opposite. We are not a theocracy.

You people are so ignorant and uneducated it is really unfair to debate you.

It's the first amendment to the Constitution.

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."

Right on. You are beginning to get it. Not bad for a predominantly Christian nation.

You will never get it, you are too frigging stupid. Claiming the U.S. is a Christian nation when our constitution prohibits the establishment of any national religion was just another big fail on your part.

 

[Kondor3]

The United States is not a Christian nation de jure...

However...

It is a Christian nation de facto...

One need look no further than official US demographics on religion to confirm that fact...

Next slide, please...

 

[montelatici]

The United States is not a Christian nation de jure...

However...

It is a Christian nation de facto...

One need look no further than official US demographics on religion to confirm that fact...

Next slide, please...

The relion of the majority of the citizens has nothing to do with the legal establishment of a national religion, it is the legal constraint that prevents the U.S. Government from establishing a national religion that counts.

The U.S. is not the United Christian States of America. Done and dusted.

 

[Kondor3]

The United States is not a Christian nation de jure...

However...

It is a Christian nation de facto...

One need look no further than official US demographics on religion to confirm that fact...

Next slide, please...

The relion of the majority of the citizens has nothing to do with the legal establishment of a national religion, it is the legal constraint that prevents the U.S. Government from establishing a national religion that counts.

The U.S. is not the United Christian States of America. Done and dusted.

The US is a secularized Christian state... constituting Nova Europa... the entire New World is an extension of Christendom... like it or not.

As a secularized Christian state... it bears many of the trappings of generic Christianity, in its icon imagery, its mottoes, its national songs, its national documents, etc.

It eschews any formal acknowledgement of its nature or status, but the Christian population of the US is so large and dominant that, in truth, it needs none.

Its avoidance of a formal acknowledgement was - at the time of its founding, and in the present day - merely an artifice to avoid Christian sect A or B from getting the upper hand.

One need look no further than the White House Christmas Tree or the White House Easter Egg Hunt or - more profoundly - the Battle Hymn of the Republic - to discern that Truth.

 

[montelatici]

The United States of America is constitutionally a secular state with an amendment to the constitution, the first amendment, which forbids the state from establishing a religion. Unlike religious states, laws cannot be passed that discriminate between practitioners of different religions. The current court decisions stopping the executive from implementing a travel ban against Muslims, is a prime example.

The U.S., for example, cannot favor Christians, or persons of any religion, for immigration.

 

[Challenger]

Oh I do wish people wouldn't fixate so much on "Administrative geography" as opposed to actual physical geography or tradition. Example, the old "County of Avon" (now called Somerset again) in the UK was called administratively at one point or other "North West Somerset", "Bath and North East Somerset (!?)" and "South Gloucestershire". Ask a native and he/she wil tell you they live in Somerset, or Gloucestershire, the ancient names for these areas, regardless of what the bureaucrats decided to call the place for administrative purposes.

The Turks did not call it Palestine or Falastine for 700 years. Neither did the Arabs. "Palestine" was the name the Europeans gave to the region, which became obsolete after the Arab / Muslim invasions about 1200 years ago. When the British conquered the region after the fall of the Ottoman Empire after WWI in the early 1900's, they renamed it "Palestine mandate", a British territory. There was no such thing as a Palestine before that.

I think the preceeding posting has adequately shown you are talking out of your posterior orifice as usual.

Just because you say so and eat out of there?

Rest assured I wouldn't go anywhere near your posterior orifice, let alone eat from it

 

[Challenger]

Even BEFORE 1948 Jews & were being massacred & ethnically cleansed in & around the holy land by Muslims. Hey I have an idea. Lets blame it on Israel.

Point of No Return: Jewish Refugees from Arab Countries: Massacres of Jews by Muslims before 1948

Interesting article, what it's basically saying is that from 627CE to 1947CE there were 46 years where Jewish people were allegedly or actually victimised throughout the Muslim world; from Iran to Spain, often during times of war or instability. Thats 46 years out of a time frame of 1320 years. That means there were 1274 years when Jewish people were not allegedly or actually victimised throughout the Muslim world.

 

[Challenger]

...and from 1921 to to 1936 he collaborated with the British, so what? There's an old saying out there, "the enemy of my enemy is my friend"

Oh, interestingly there's scant evidence he actually made any broadcasts himself, but that's just one of those facts, Zionists find "inconvenient" when trying to make him out as the "ultimate evil-doer" against their colonial project.

Noooo, he only organized a Muslim Nazi army (called it "the cream of Islam") that went around killing Christians and Jews in Eastern Europe. He also incited the Muslims to commit a second Holocaust on Jews in their own holy land, and failed miserably. What a funny internet jihadi you are.

The Germans created and organised local Muslim units in Yugoslavia to fight Tito's Communist partizans, the Mufti was rolled out from time to time for recruitment propaganda. There is no credible evidence that the Handschar SS Mountain Division participated in the Holocaust, I've debunked this so many times, it's getting boring, nor is there any credible evidence of the Mufti inciting Palestinian muslims to commit genocide in Palestine.

Stop blaberring so much.

-He was a declared Nazi and officially classified as such by the US state dept. Nazis gave him a lavish residence in Germany to coordinate his activities abroad.
-He wrote letters to Black Muslim leaders in the US to terrorize Americans, rise up against Roosevelt, arm themselves, and seceed from US by grabbing a state or territory. He created a Muslim Nazi army that went around killing Jews and Christians.
-He instigated Muslims in Israel to commit genocide against Jews in their own holy land. He successfully influenced other Arab nations to commit genocide and ethnic cleansing on Jews that had been living in the Middle East for centuries.
-He directly caused over 400,000 Jews to be sent to death camps, including the death of thousands of children.
-He inspired and became one of the fathers of the Islamic movement known as "Muslim Brotherhood" which today has become the Harvard for Islamic terrorists and radical Islamic ideology.

It doesn't get any worse that this. He was the embodiment of evil.

This is why the Palestinians are the bastard children of the marriage between Nazism and Arab Islamic nationlism.

Sounds like stuff from one of your wet-dream fantasy sites, care to provide a link or a source for this?

It's indisputable and irrefutable historical fact.

Ah, so it was from one of your wet-dream fantasy sites, thought so.

 

[MJB12741]

Even BEFORE 1948 Jews & were being massacred & ethnically cleansed in & around the holy land by Muslims. Hey I have an idea. Lets blame it on Israel.

Point of No Return: Jewish Refugees from Arab Countries: Massacres of Jews by Muslims before 1948

Interesting article, what it's basically saying is that from 627CE to 1947CE there were 46 years where Jewish people were allegedly or actually victimised throughout the Muslim world; from Iran to Spain, often during times of war or instability. Thats 46 years out of a time frame of 1320 years. That means there were 1274 years when Jewish people were not allegedly or actually victimised throughout the Muslim world.

So what is your point?

 

[MJB12741]

The United States of America is constitutionally a secular state with an amendment to the constitution, the first amendment, which forbids the state from establishing a religion. Unlike religious states, laws cannot be passed that discriminate between practitioners of different religions. The current court decisions stopping the executive from implementing a travel ban against Muslims, is a prime example.

The U.S., for example, cannot favor Christians, or persons of any religion, for immigration.

However, the US CAN indeed ban immigrants of a certain religion. Guess why this is happening.