Banished for Questioning the Gospel of Guns

[NoTeaPartyPleez]

Meet the Paula Deen of the gun control battle. Bahahahaha.....Love it. When they start throwing guys like this under the bus, you KNOW they are in deep kimchee with their fucking stupid 2nd Amendment illiteracy:


Banished for Questioning the Gospel of Guns

Mr. Metcalf was fired after a nuanced column in Guns & Ammo.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/01/05/b...he-gospel-of-guns.html?hpw&rref=business&_r=0


"""BARRY, Ill. — The byline of Dick Metcalf, one of the country’s pre-eminent gun journalists, has gone missing. It has been removed from Guns & Ammo magazine, where his widely-read column once ran on the back page. He no longer stars on a popular television show about firearms. Gun companies have stopped flying him around the world and sending him the latest weapons to review.

In late October, Mr. Metcalf wrote a column that the magazine titled “Let’s Talk Limits,” which debated gun laws. “The fact is,” wrote Mr. Metcalf, who has taught history at Cornell and Yale, “all constitutional rights are regulated, always have been, and need to be.”"""


Oooops! Now he's toast.

 

[NoTeaPartyPleez]

Metcalf is not alone. There are others, from the same NYT article:


"""There have been other cases like Mr. Metcalf’s. In 2012, Jerry Tsai, the editor of Recoil magazine, wrote that the Heckler & Koch MP7A1 gun, designed for law enforcement, was “unavailable to civilians and for good reason.” He was pressured to step down, and despite apologizing, has not written since.

In 2007, Jim Zumbo, by then the author of 23 hunting books, wrote a blog post for Outdoor Life’s website suggesting that military-style rifles were “terrorist” weapons, best avoided by hunters. His writing, television and endorsement deals were quickly put on hiatus. """

 

[Vandalshandle]

I own several guns, and yesterday, I went to the range to sight in my Mosan-Nagant Chinese carbine. I was on my way out, when a Ford F-250 pulled up, and four guys climbed out. Two were riding in the truck bed. They all had beards that were obviously copied from Duck Dynasty. They were armed to the teeth. All of them had tattoos, and two of them had so many, there there was no space left on their arms. At first, I thought that I was seeing things that were not there. Then, I realized that these guys were for real. I swear that it was all I could do to keep a straight face as I walked out of the range master's office. I kept thinking about a song that was put out by the Chad Mitchell trio when I was in college:

Sweet sixteen goes to church
Just to see the boys
Laughs and screams and giggles
At every little noise
Turns her face a little
And turns her head awhile
But everybody knows she's
Only putting on the style

She's putting on the agony
Putting on the style
That's what all the young folks
Are doing all the while
And as I look around me
I sometimes have to smile
Seeing all the young folks
Putting on the style

Well the young man in the hot rod car
Driving like he's mad
With a pair of yellow gloves
He's borrowed from his dad
He makes it roar so lively
Just to make his girlfriend smile
But she knows he's only
Putting on the style

He's putting on the agony
Putting on the style
That's what all the young folks
Are doing all the while
And as I look around me
I sometimes have to smile
Seeing all the young folks
Putting on the style

Preacher in the pulpit
Roars with all his might
Sing Glory Halleluja
Puts the folks all in a fright
Now you might think it's satan
That's a-coming down the aisle
But it's only our poor preacher boys
That's putting on his style

Putting on the agony
Putting on the style
That's what all the young folks
Are doing all the while
And as I look around me
I sometimes have to smile
Seeing all the young folks
Putting on the style

Putting on the agony
Putting on the style
That's what all the young folks
Are doing all the while
And as I look around me
I sometimes have to smile
Seeing all the young folks
Putting on the style

Putting on the agony
Putting on the style
That's what all the young folks
Are doing all the while
And as I look around me
I sometimes have to smile
Seeing all the young folks
Putting on the style

 

[M14 Shooter]

Not sure why or how any of this has meaning.
I guess anti-gun loons will grasp at anything.

 

[Soupnazi630]

Meet the Paula Deen of the gun control battle. Bahahahaha.....Love it. When they start throwing guys like this under the bus, you KNOW they are in deep kimchee with their fucking stupid 2nd Amendment illiteracy:


Banished for Questioning the Gospel of Guns

Mr. Metcalf was fired after a nuanced column in Guns & Ammo.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/01/05/b...he-gospel-of-guns.html?hpw&rref=business&_r=0


"""BARRY, Ill. — The byline of Dick Metcalf, one of the country’s pre-eminent gun journalists, has gone missing. It has been removed from Guns & Ammo magazine, where his widely-read column once ran on the back page. He no longer stars on a popular television show about firearms. Gun companies have stopped flying him around the world and sending him the latest weapons to review.

In late October, Mr. Metcalf wrote a column that the magazine titled “Let’s Talk Limits,” which debated gun laws. “The fact is,” wrote Mr. Metcalf, who has taught history at Cornell and Yale, “all constitutional rights are regulated, always have been, and need to be.”"""


Oooops! Now he's toast.

I do not see how one guy getting fired = " they arer in deep kimchee "

I presume you mean those who read the entire second amendment and do not surgically excise the second part of it which clearly protects the rights of individual citizens not elites ( such as militia )

 

[The Rabbi]

Yeah people take 2A rights seriously and don't like it when people suggest that those rights should be restricted.
I can remember when liberals felt that way about the 1A.

 

[NoTeaPartyPleez]

Meet the Paula Deen of the gun control battle. Bahahahaha.....Love it. When they start throwing guys like this under the bus, you KNOW they are in deep kimchee with their fucking stupid 2nd Amendment illiteracy:


Banished for Questioning the Gospel of Guns

Mr. Metcalf was fired after a nuanced column in Guns & Ammo.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/01/05/b...he-gospel-of-guns.html?hpw&rref=business&_r=0


"""BARRY, Ill. — The byline of Dick Metcalf, one of the country’s pre-eminent gun journalists, has gone missing. It has been removed from Guns & Ammo magazine, where his widely-read column once ran on the back page. He no longer stars on a popular television show about firearms. Gun companies have stopped flying him around the world and sending him the latest weapons to review.

In late October, Mr. Metcalf wrote a column that the magazine titled “Let’s Talk Limits,” which debated gun laws. “The fact is,” wrote Mr. Metcalf, who has taught history at Cornell and Yale, “all constitutional rights are regulated, always have been, and need to be.”"""


Oooops! Now he's toast.

I do not see how one guy getting fired = " they arer in deep kimchee "

I presume you mean those who read the entire second amendment and do not surgically excise the second part of it which clearly protects the rights of individual citizens not elites ( such as militia )

This is not just "one guy". "One guy" doesn't make the top fold of the Sunday NYT because he's for gun control. And this "guy" isn't. I presume you did not bother to read the article and the section about gun manufacturers.

 

[NoTeaPartyPleez]

Yeah people take 2A rights seriously and don't like it when people suggest that those rights should be restricted.
I can remember when liberals felt that way about the 1A.

This guy isn't just another gun control advocate, Bozo. Read the article.

 

[Spoonman]

kind of like when the democrats threw joe Lieberman under the bus for thinking on his own and not towing the party line

 

[freedombecki]

Meet the Paula Deen of the gun control battle. Bahahahaha.....Love it. When they start throwing guys like this under the bus, you KNOW they are in deep kimchee with their fucking stupid 2nd Amendment illiteracy:


Banished for Questioning the Gospel of Guns

Mr. Metcalf was fired after a nuanced column in Guns & Ammo.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/01/05/b...he-gospel-of-guns.html?hpw&rref=business&_r=0


"""BARRY, Ill. — The byline of Dick Metcalf, one of the country’s pre-eminent gun journalists, has gone missing. It has been removed from Guns & Ammo magazine, where his widely-read column once ran on the back page. He no longer stars on a popular television show about firearms. Gun companies have stopped flying him around the world and sending him the latest weapons to review.

In late October, Mr. Metcalf wrote a column that the magazine titled “Let’s Talk Limits,” which debated gun laws. “The fact is,” wrote Mr. Metcalf, who has taught history at Cornell and Yale, “all constitutional rights are regulated, always have been, and need to be.”"""


Oooops! Now he's toast.

According to the article that YOU posted, the man did it to himself:

Just days after the column appeared, Mr. Metcalf said, his editor called to tell him that two major gun manufacturers had said “in no uncertain terms” that they could no longer do business with InterMedia Outdoors, the company that publishes Guns & Ammo and co-produces his TV show, if he continued to work there. He was let go immediately. http://www.nytimes.com/2014/01/05/b...he-gospel-of-guns.html?hpw&rref=business&_r=0

TheNYTimes is merely a radical rag these days, beating the hell out of the Constitution of the United States to show how liberal they are to their base, since they've chased off most of the intellectuals on the right with one diatribe after another touting groupthink leftism for at least 20 years. They're now just subsidized by leftist thinktank organizations. If they touted a Republican as the good person that they are, they'd also lose what little readership they had left before selling out their journalism credentials of simply presenting news as it happens and letting people choose for themselves.

They're presently merely passing off Democrat Party propaganda in op-eds they publish on page one rather than opening topics for debate by the intelligent people that Americans are and have been since the founders relied on news sources that actually let people decide for themselves based on facts unattended by leftist ninnyhammering op-eds by people propped up by global leftist think tanks promoting socialist and not nationalistic agendas.

I give you a "T" for trying, though. Because the leftist ninnyhammers can certainly be trying, no doubt about it.

 

[Joe Steel]

Oooops! Now he's toast.

The gun cult will tolerate no heresy.

 

[occupied]

I'm all for gun ownership and generally find most restrictions to be useless gestures but I will be damned if I will ever be able to identify with the fetishistic attitude some people have with their firearms.

 

[NoTeaPartyPleez]

Meet the Paula Deen of the gun control battle. Bahahahaha.....Love it. When they start throwing guys like this under the bus, you KNOW they are in deep kimchee with their fucking stupid 2nd Amendment illiteracy:


Banished for Questioning the Gospel of Guns

Mr. Metcalf was fired after a nuanced column in Guns & Ammo.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/01/05/b...he-gospel-of-guns.html?hpw&rref=business&_r=0


"""BARRY, Ill. — The byline of Dick Metcalf, one of the country’s pre-eminent gun journalists, has gone missing. It has been removed from Guns & Ammo magazine, where his widely-read column once ran on the back page. He no longer stars on a popular television show about firearms. Gun companies have stopped flying him around the world and sending him the latest weapons to review.

In late October, Mr. Metcalf wrote a column that the magazine titled “Let’s Talk Limits,” which debated gun laws. “The fact is,” wrote Mr. Metcalf, who has taught history at Cornell and Yale, “all constitutional rights are regulated, always have been, and need to be.”"""


Oooops! Now he's toast.

According to the article that YOU posted, the man did it to himself:

Just days after the column appeared, Mr. Metcalf said, his editor called to tell him that two major gun manufacturers had said “in no uncertain terms” that they could no longer do business with InterMedia Outdoors, the company that publishes Guns & Ammo and co-produces his TV show, if he continued to work there. He was let go immediately. http://www.nytimes.com/2014/01/05/b...he-gospel-of-guns.html?hpw&rref=business&_r=0

Just where does it say he resigned or forced his termination? What do you think "let go" means? Your reading comprehension skills are below a 1st grader:

""" In the column that led to his dismissal, he said that too many gun owners believed that the constitution prohibits any regulation of firearms. He noted that all rights are regulated, like freedom of speech. “You cannot falsely and deliberately shout, ‘Fire!’ in a crowded theater,” he wrote.
............
Though his editors had approved the column before it went to press, they reversed course after publication. Jim Bequette, editor of Guns & Ammo, issued an apology to the magazine’s roughly 400,000 readers. He told them Mr. Metcalf had been dismissed, and that he, Mr. Bequette, would move forward plans to hand the editorship on to his successor. """

Metcalf has been writing for these gun and shooting magazines for almost 30 years, Bozo. What's wrong? Can't these magazines handle the 1st Amendment rights of a columnist they have had for three decades?

 

[Dot Com]

Oooops! Now he's toast.

According to the article that YOU posted, the man did it to himself:

Just days after the column appeared, Mr. Metcalf said, his editor called to tell him that two major gun manufacturers had said “in no uncertain terms” that they could no longer do business with InterMedia Outdoors, the company that publishes Guns & Ammo and co-produces his TV show, if he continued to work there. He was let go immediately. http://www.nytimes.com/2014/01/05/b...he-gospel-of-guns.html?hpw&rref=business&_r=0

TheNYTimes is merely a radical rag these days, beating the hell out of the Constitution of the United States to show how liberal they are to their base, since they've chased off most of the intellectuals on the right with one diatribe after another touting groupthink leftism for at least 20 years. They're now just subsidized by leftist thinktank organizations. If they touted a Republican as the good person that they are, they'd also lose what little readership they had left before selling out their journalism credentials of simply presenting news as it happens and letting people choose for themselves.

They're presently merely passing off Democrat Party propaganda in op-eds they publish on page one rather than opening topics for debate by the intelligent people that Americans are and have been since the founders relied on news sources that actually let people decide for themselves based on facts unattended by leftist ninnyhammering op-eds by people propped up by global leftist think tanks promoting socialist and not nationalistic agendas.

I give you a "T" for trying, though. Because the leftist ninnyhammers can certainly be trying, no doubt about it.

ummm..... no According to your quote he was pushed-out by the gun manufacturers See what I bolded

NEGGED!!!
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if I negged people

 

[NoTeaPartyPleez]

Oooops! Now he's toast.

The gun cult will tolerate no heresy.

Otherwise known as the NRA. I suspect they were behind this.

This is like accusing Mr. Rogers of child abuse and canceling his television show.

 

[NoTeaPartyPleez]

Oooops! Now he's toast.

According to the article that YOU posted, the man did it to himself:

Just days after the column appeared, Mr. Metcalf said, his editor called to tell him that two major gun manufacturers had said “in no uncertain terms” that they could no longer do business with InterMedia Outdoors, the company that publishes Guns & Ammo and co-produces his TV show, if he continued to work there. He was let go immediately. http://www.nytimes.com/2014/01/05/b...he-gospel-of-guns.html?hpw&rref=business&_r=0

TheNYTimes is merely a radical rag these days, beating the hell out of the Constitution of the United States to show how liberal they are to their base, since they've chased off most of the intellectuals on the right with one diatribe after another touting groupthink leftism for at least 20 years. They're now just subsidized by leftist thinktank organizations. If they touted a Republican as the good person that they are, they'd also lose what little readership they had left before selling out their journalism credentials of simply presenting news as it happens and letting people choose for themselves.

They're presently merely passing off Democrat Party propaganda in op-eds they publish on page one rather than opening topics for debate by the intelligent people that Americans are and have been since the founders relied on news sources that actually let people decide for themselves based on facts unattended by leftist ninnyhammering op-eds by people propped up by global leftist think tanks promoting socialist and not nationalistic agendas.

I give you a "T" for trying, though. Because the leftist ninnyhammers can certainly be trying, no doubt about it.

ummm..... no According to your quote he was pushed-out by the gun manufacturers See what I bolded

NEGGED!!!
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.
.
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if I negged people

Supposedly the editors of the magazines were inundated with complaints from readers, too and pressured to fire Metcalf. But again, given the NRA's ability to rally their members, I suspect they were behind it.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

The fact is,” wrote Mr. Metcalf, who has taught history at Cornell and Yale, “all constitutional rights are regulated, always have been, and need to be.

True.

As the Heller Court reaffirmed:

Like most rights, the Second Amendment right is not unlimited. It is not a right to keep and carry any weapon whatsoever in any manner whatsoever and for whatever purpose: For example, concealed weapons prohibitions have been upheld under the Amendment or state analogues. The Court’s opinion should not be taken to cast doubt on longstanding prohibitions on the possession of firearms by felons and the mentally ill, or laws forbidding the carrying of firearms in sensitive places such as schools and government buildings, or laws imposing conditions and qualifications on the commercial sale of arms.

Although our rights are inalienable they are not absolute, and are subject to reasonable restrictions by government, including the rights enshrined in the Second Amendment – to argue otherwise is ignorant idiocy.

Consequently, the question is not whether Second Amendment rights might be subject to restrictions – as clearly they may – but which restrictions are appropriate and which are not.

And that determination is made in the same manner as other Constitutional rights: is there a rational basis for the restriction, is the restriction predicated on objective, documented facts and evidence, and does the restriction pursue a legitimate legislative end.

 

[Joe Steel]

Oooops! Now he's toast.

The gun cult will tolerate no heresy.

Otherwise known as the NRA. I suspect they were behind this.

This is like accusing Mr. Rogers of child abuse and canceling his television show.

The NRA is a pressure group for gun manufacturers and the article said the manufacturers were behind the guy's dismissal. Even if the NRA didn't "pull the trigger" on the guy, they certainly would have if they could have.

 

[Avorysuds]

For the record, more Democrats support the 2nd Amendment than people like the OP. So, if any group was eating themselves it would be Dems, who are completely and utterly divided on the issue.

Basically the Progressive wing of the Dem party wants wars, deficits, likes trillions being dumped on the rich, hates the constitution and loves mass welfare. Intelligent Liberal voters want nothing to do with people like the OP.

 

[Joe Steel]

The fact is,” wrote Mr. Metcalf, who has taught history at Cornell and Yale, “all constitutional rights are regulated, always have been, and need to be.

True.

As the Heller Court reaffirmed:

Like most rights, the Second Amendment right is not unlimited. It is not a right to keep and carry any weapon whatsoever in any manner whatsoever and for whatever purpose: For example, concealed weapons prohibitions have been upheld under the Amendment or state analogues. The Court’s opinion should not be taken to cast doubt on longstanding prohibitions on the possession of firearms by felons and the mentally ill, or laws forbidding the carrying of firearms in sensitive places such as schools and government buildings, or laws imposing conditions and qualifications on the commercial sale of arms.

Although our rights are inalienable they are not absolute, and are subject to reasonable restrictions by government, including the rights enshrined in the Second Amendment – to argue otherwise is ignorant idiocy.

Consequently, the question is not whether Second Amendment rights might be subject to restrictions – as clearly they may – but which restrictions are appropriate and which are not.

And that determination is made in the same manner as other Constitutional rights: is there a rational basis for the restriction, is the restriction predicated on objective, documented facts and evidence, and does the restriction pursue a legitimate legislative end.

That's all very civilized but it doesn't get to the heart of the matter. The writer was dismissed because the gun cult demanded it. They are the same persons who make legislators quake. That leads to gun laws which are not nearly as civilized as a modern society needs.