Backdoor healthcare for illegals

[Truthmatters]

Jose' what do you do with the child if it is an American citizen and its parents are illegal?

 

[José]

I see, Truthmatters... but I vaguely remember you telling Gunny your irl name was Annie.

But there is a very real possibility I'm mistaking you for Care4all.

 

[Angelhair]

Anybody in need of medical care, especially if it's an emergency, will get it. Why? Because it's humane! But - once that person is out of danger and they are here illegally and of course had no insurance, than this country should find a way to be compensated by the good-for-nothing governments of the countries which these people come from - just don't hold your breath! Everybody has the 'number' of the americans aka generous to a fault and humane to a fault - and THEY know this and take advantage of it. As long as we keep reaching into our pocketbook, the abuses will continue.

 

[Truthmatters]

It must have been Care Jose' because it wasnt me.

Angelhair, what do you do with a child who is an American and a parent who is illegal?

 

[Angelhair]

'Angelhair, what do you do with a child who is an American and a parent who is illegal? '

Do with a child?? If you are asking if you give that child medical attention, of course you do - it's the humane thing to do. The illegal parent will also get medical attention for the same reason. But - they should then be sent back to their country and they should take the american born child with them!!! But these parents leave their child/ren behind to be taken care of by either the state or a relative - which is very harmful for the child - but it's THEIR choice!!! I say that the government should force the parent to take the child/ren with them as they will still be citizens having been born here. Thus the reason why the Anchor Baby Law should be abolished as too many problems come with that law.

 

[Truthmatters]

The CHILD is in their country.

You would be forcing an American to leave their own country.

 

[Angelhair]

I would be forcing the parent to take the child with. The child belongs with the parent/s!!! Because of the foolish anchor baby law, many problems arise. The child will still be a citizen and can return to the country of his/her birth when they are old enough to fend for themselves and able to be self supporting. This is one of the things that is being abused by the illegals. They think that because they come and drop their child here, they can't be deported - although many still are it is traumatic for the child to be left behind by these neglectful and selfish parents. ABOLISH THE ANCHOR BABY LAW.

 

[Care4all]

I see, Truthmatters... but I vaguely remember you telling Gunny your irl name was Annie.

But there is a very real possibility I'm mistaking you for Care4all.

no, my name is Denise... but you can call me Care!

 

[José]

I see, Truthmatters... but I vaguely remember you telling Gunny your irl name was Annie.

But there is a very real possibility I'm mistaking you for Care4all.

no, my name is Denise... but you can call me Care!

What a beautiful, sweet name, Care : )

Mine is ... err.... José

 

[chanel]

Hey "truth" - When an American mother breaks the law she risks being separated from her child. Its called jail. Illegal mommies that break the law risk that too. Or take their family back to the motherland. We have enough US kids with law breaking parents to take care of. The gravy train is over. In case you didn't get the memo, the country is broke.

And please stop with the bleeding orphan stories. Its truly pathetic.

 

[Samson]

Those clinics are essential and critical to have for all the American citizens...like here in maine....our citizens in rural Maine need them for their own care and we DO NOT have illegal immigrants here.

Why don't the states that have problems with illegals entering them, take care of their own problem and keep the illegal's from entering at their borders? I guess I don't understand why those states that have a kazillion illegals have to punish states like mine who desperately need health care clinics for THEIR CITIZENS?

Clearly Main needs illegal immigrants and Texas has too many:

Solution: Giv'em each a lobster trap and a bus ticket to Maine

 

[Samson]

Illegals get treatment right now.

They get it in Emergency rooms everywhere in the country.

It is the MOST expensive care there is.

There is a medical reason for treating people no matter who they are, its called disease control.

There is another reason for treating people no matter who they are an its a moral reason, are you willing to allow a child to bleed to death because they dont have identification on them?


Your insistance in refusing the facts is costing this country a shit load of money.

Who is "refusing the facts?"

Fact: USA provides free emergency care for people with the sniffles
Fact: Its easy for people with the sniffles to illegally enter the USA.
Fact: The US Government simply prints more money if it needs it
Fact: If the USA Federal Gov't pays for health care, then Money is NO PROBLEM.

 

[Midnight Marauder]

BACKDOOR HEALTHCARE FOR ILLEGALS

More cut and paste garbage from mass emails.

BACKDOOR HEALTHCARE FOR ILLEGALS - Armed Volunteers Patrol Mexican Border - AOL Message Boards

Why do you continue to spam this old shit and pretend you're the author?

 

[antipartisan]

Denying any kind of emergency medical assistence to anyone is beyond cruel.

But the repatriation of illegal mexicans after they get patched up at the hospital is not "cruel" by any stretch of the imagination.

I agree w/Jose

Jose' what do you do with the child if it is an American citizen and its parents are illegal?

That's a whole separate issue and that part of Amendment 14 for birthright citizenship to children of illegals should be repealed. That amendment was created for children of slaves and is far outdated.

Sorry but my family immigrated LEGALLY. There are millions of other families in line trying to do the same. I have no sympathy for those that come illegally, except for limited instances of medical care. Yes, if you're ililegal and sick/injured/dying, you will get free care. But then you and your family should be sent home.

I love how when it comes to illegal immigration sympathizers, never is the plight of legal, taxpaying immigrants mentioned. Illegals can get in the back of the line.

Also please don't make this a race/nationality issue. I feel the same way about illegal immigrants (lawbreakers) regardless of race/nationality.

 

[PeterS]

BACKDOOR HEALTHCARE FOR ILLEGALS

Obama is providing HC for illegal aliens when he just gave $480 billion to medical clinics around the country. These clinics are predominantly used by illegal aliens and staffed by Hispanics because they speak Spanish. Illegal aliens receive medical care and pay according to their income, but all their income is not declared so they pay the minimum. One of those clinics is the HAWC clinic here in Reno, NV. That clinic have already received some of the stimulus money, taxpayers money, to expand their services. 90% of the patients and staff are Hispanic.
Obama did not give them healthcare by way of the healthcare plan, but is sneaking it in by wary of the $480 billion. Do not tell me this man do not know what he is doing. We are the ones who do not know what he is doing. We have been paying and we continue to pay for healthcare for illegal aliens. And we will continue to pay until enforcement is taken seriously.
Even if affordable healthcare is made available to illegal aliens they would not enroll because it would cost them and they can get it free by using emergency rooms as a primary medical care. Many pregnant women go to ER and do not declare that they are not married when they are and receive free delivery. Just look at the birth announcements in your local paper. Another expense is when a gang member get shot or stabbed, paramedics pick them up and they are treated in ER and often hospitalized. Another expense to the American taxpayer.
Illegal immigration is a homeland security problem because it is harming Americans and more of a threat than foreign terrorist.
In the past 10 years, 70 hospitals alone in California have closed because of treating those who do not have medical care. Many are illegal aliens. When those hospitals close, thousands of Americans lose their jobs.
We cannot see the forest for the trees. We are so busy hating Obama because of his color, that we fail to see what he is really doing.

What has Obama 'really' been doing for the past 10 years???

 

[PeterS]

There is a protocol. I've never called the paramedics for my "dying child" but have had many trips to the ER. We must show proof of insurance -If we all started saying "No ingles" could we get out of our deductible? You said the child could be a citizen. If so, the parents would have proof. Unless they are fucking retards in which case they should lose custody. I am so sick of the "dying children" guilt trip the libs love to use to justify stealing other people's money.. We should treat them and then ship them off to the nearest detention center. Got a problem with that?

Protocol? So tell me, if you are sitting there with a $2000 deductible are you going to speak 'ingles' or not?

 

[PeterS]

Annie (Truthmatters) and channel are both correct.

Denying any kind of emergency medical assistence to anyone is beyond cruel.

But the repatriation of illegal mexicans after they get patched up at the hospital is not "cruel" by any stretch of the imagination.

So you are going to turn our hospitals into the INS. I love how 'small' government conservatives think up new ways of creating bigger government.

 

[Angelhair]

If turning hospitals into the INS makes it possible to deport all these leeches, than so be it.

 

[PeterS]

Annie (Truthmatters) and channel are both correct.

Denying any kind of emergency medical assistence to anyone is beyond cruel.

But the repatriation of illegal mexicans after they get patched up at the hospital is not "cruel" by any stretch of the imagination.

So you are going to turn our hospitals into the INS. I love how 'small' government conservatives think up new ways of creating bigger government.

And the question that remains begged is how conservatives can think we should be a police state and have 'small' government? You are talking about adding millions of people to the government labor force and trillions long term to the budget, paid for with higher taxes, not to mention inflation in the economy for the higher price of goods and services now provided by low cost illegal labor. What is it about our browned skinned brothers to the south that prompt conservatives to abandon the basic principles they are supposed to stand for?

And of course the liberal in me says that if we are going to have higher taxes, millions more government employees, and higher labor inflation why don't we just expand education, nationalize health care, and bring back unions. The end result is the same size government and at least the government actions will be for everyone's benefit. Isn't it better to have government that works for everyone instead of the bigotry and biases of a few?

 

[Truthmatters]

If turning hospitals into the INS makes it possible to deport all these leeches, than so be it.

Do you understand how much that would cost?

Do you understand the moral cost?

What you are asking for is people to have to present their "papers" to get life saving treatment.

You will end up with DEAD Americans as well as dead illegals.

Think of it, a hospital can just say "hey they presented no papers so we refused to treat them". then they can wash their hands of ANYONE who cant pay right at the moment they are admitted.

What you people are asking for is complete stupidity all because ......... because........... well I cant even think of why you would insist on being soooo fucking stupid.