As we debate fixing healthcare...let's now do what the British did, their way is collapsing...

2aguy

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As I have pointed out in thread after thread...the social welfare states now have healthcare systems that are collapsing...just like all socialism collapses...you run out of other people's money....


No money....no Doctors, no nurses...why should they give up their youngest years studying to be Doctors....just to be clock punching government employees.....?


7 Things You Need To Know About Britain's Failing Nationalized Health System

2. The NHS is facing staff shortages. According to the UK Independent, district nurses declined by nearly 50 percent from 2000 to 2014 and 15 percent from 2014 to 2016. The NHS is also looking at the possibility of conscripting "hundreds of doctors from India" and Pakistan as well as requiring doctors to work in the NHS for five years once their training is finished to deal with doctor shortages, particularly in the Accidents and Emergencies (A&E) departments.

The shortages have been particularly grueling for student nurses who have been overworked and put in situations where they felt overwhelmed, to the detriment of patients: (H/T: UK Telegraph)

“On my third placement there was a young girl who needed to have an NG tube put in,” said Meera, 22. “The doctor explained the procedure and it really frightened her, but because we were so overworked it took about three hours before we were able to do it, so this girl spent three hours panicking and crying about a tube going up her nose and down her throat.

“I eventually had enough and did it myself. I felt really out of my depth, but knew it had to be done.”

“I was on a geriatric ward in Portsmouth and it was really understaffed,” said Jess, 21.

Fewer Doctors and nurses....longer and deadlier wait times....

3. Patients face exorbitant waiting times. A report from the Patients Association found that "tens of thousands of" patients seeking routine surgeries had to wait over 18 weeks; there was an 80 percent increase in elective surgeries from 2014 to 2015. Additionally, more major operations, such as hip and knee replacements, had average wait times of over 100 days.

Katherine Murphy, chief executive of the Patients Association, told the UK Guardian, "The Patients Association has noticed a clear trend over recent years in the increasing time people are waiting for operations, as well as the number of people waiting longer for elective surgery."

"Every day we hear from the people behind these statistics on our national helpline: individuals who are in pain, worried they will lose further mobility, or will take longer to recover when they finally get their surgery," Murphy added. "Their family members and careers are also having to share the added uncertainty and pressure faced by patients whilst they are waiting for their operations."


And the best patient in Britain...is the dead one......

  • NHS doctors routinely conceal from patients information about innovative new therapies that the NHS doesn’t pay for, so as to not “distress, upset or confuse” them.
  • Terminally ill patients are incorrectly classified as “close to death” so as to allow the withdrawal of expensive life support.
  • NHS expert guidelines on the management of high cholesterol are intentionally out of date, putting patients at serious risk, in order to save money.

  • When the government approved an innovative new treatment for elderly blindness, the NHS initially decided to reimburse for the treatment only after patients were already blind in one eye — using the logic that a person blind in one eye can still see, and is therefore not that badly off.
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The Cure is deadlier than the illness?

5. The NHS has a death rate four times higher than the U.S. following major surgeries. According to a study conducted by University College London and Columbia University, a little less than "ten percent of British patients died in hospital afterwards compared to 2.5 percent in America."

The UK Daily Mail provided more details as to why this is the case:

Professor Monty Mythen, head of anaesthesia at University College London and Great Ormond Street Hospital, said: "In America, after surgery, everyone would go into a critical care bed in a highly-monitored environment. That doesn't happen routinely in the UK.

"In the Manhattan hospital the care (after surgery) is delivered largely by a consultant surgeon and an anaesthetist.

"We know from other research that more than one third of those who die after a major operation in Britain are not seen by a similar consultant."



 
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