CDZ Artificial Intelligence-assisted meritocracy

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    The weaknesses of democracy are abundantly clear. The alternatives to democracy are abundantly unattractive. Meritocracy sounds like a good idea, yet we understandably fear what will pass for "merit". With a proven standard applied objectively, we could envision a just and efficient system with democratic/republican (note lowercase consonants!) supervision, perhaps a senate-like body.
    America has become so complex and at the same time so confused that the present government is not up to managing our position in the world. What about examining a combination of the maximum that artificial intelligence can contribute to a maximum of what our best and brightest can? More or less, it could resemble something like replacing the House while keeping a modified Senate and a stable Judicial branch.
    Please notice that this is not a left-right issue in the mind of this poster.
     
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    Alexis de Tocqueville, a 19th century fan French fan of America and chronically of the American experiment once wrote:

    'America will be finished when the electorate discovers they can vote themselves the national treasury.'

    He figured it out.
     
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    Benjamin Franklin:
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    “When the people find that they can vote themselves money that will herald the end of the republic.”

    But, what has that to do with the proposition?
     
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    This doesn't seem to be too radical and idea, given our acceptance of modern technology. In fact, it is merely a logical extension of original American thinking. Does anyone see a fundamental, ideological objection?
     
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    America has always been complex and has had to deal with complex issues.

    The question isn't whether or not our government can deal with our position in the world. The question is, what should our position in the world be? Is being a 'super power' in today's world to our national advantage?
     
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    The U.S. could become a 'superpower' on another scale, setting a new example to the world of efficient, thus, powerful, administration with far less cost and far greater stability. This, in turn, would lend to greater power on the world stage with less dependence on military for it.
     
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    In order for government to become efficient it would have to limit itself to those things that are within the scope of an efficient government.

    Unfortunately, government sees no limitations to its scope and will continue to expand until it begins to collapse in on itself. In that way, governments are like Universes.
     
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    That is exactly where skilled thinkers and technicians aided by "artificial intelligence" would come most to bear.
     
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    "I'll believe in artificial intelligence when a computer kills itself for thinking it's too fat."
     
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    The level of political dialog in America gives witness to the necessity for fundamental change. If we do not take steps with constructive, peaceful measures, much less pleasant ones will occur.
     

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