ABikerSailor
Diamond Member
Adam and Eve got booted out of Eden for getting it on.Are you working to be God?
If not, why not?
Adam and Eve did and were rewarded. They have become as God in the knowing of good and evil.
The way I see the overall ancient Jewish and Christian religions is, it is designed, if read the way I read it; to have mankind mature and civilize itself to where a god is not required, as we will all walk about with a Christ mind and the morality of God. We are to be morally and ethically the ideal of what we think God is. Gen 3: - They have become as Gods in the knowing of good and evil.
The future God of man is to be a man, since we cannot know anything about the supernatural.
http://bigthink.com/videos/what-is-god-2-2
Archetypal Jesus, just a man, ascended to the throne of God and took the judgement seat from God. That makes man the ruler of his own morals and ethics.
This is clear and exemplified in the Vatican’s creation painting which has God sitting on the outline of the right hemisphere of our brains, where the ancients thought God resided, in the third or inner eye type of metaphor.
Matthew 6:22 - The light of the body is the eye: if therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light.
John 14:23 - Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.
Romans 8:29 - For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alRNbesfXXw&feature=player_embedded
If you have any Gnosis, you will agree with this Gnostic Christian, Karaite Jews and Buddhists that man is to be above God and not God above man.
Regards
DL
God drowned nearly all of humanity in his flood. Even the babies.
I'm not working for a mass murderer, they tried that in Germany already.
Actually, Adam and Eve were kicked out of Eden because they didn't take responsibility for their actions. When God asked Adam why he ate the apple, he said it was because Eve gave it to him. When God asked Eve why she ate it, she blamed the serpent.
If Adam and Eve had admitted to taking the apple in the first place and asked for forgiveness right then and there, I think the human race would have turned out much differently.
The original sin isn't having sex, the original sin was to refuse to take responsibility for your actions.
The Jews originally and presently see Eden as where man was elevated and they do not have an Original sin concept.
They knew that gaining a moral sense, which is what happened to A & E, --- they have become as God in the knowing of good and evil, --- was a real good thing. Christianity saw it as evil somehow.
Would you give up your moral sense or do you see it's value to us being fully human?
Regards
DL
I don't have any "moral sense". Why? Because I believe that morals are values and ethics that are thrust on the individual by the society that they are living in. And, because I think that some of those values and ethics that society thrusts on us are wrong, I don't have any morals.
However......................I do have values and ethics that make sense to me and I follow those.
A good example is that somehow in America, it is "immoral" for a woman to walk around in just a bikini bottom because Americans feel that the female breast is sexual, but they don't feel that way about men. However, over in places like Europe and South America, damn near all the beaches over there are top optional, with most women going topless.