CDZ Are Signs Stating that "It is OK to be White" Racist?

[Toronado3800]

It is just amazing, but 4Chan trolls have once again made the leftist intellectuals look like the blithering idiots that they so often seem to be.

A Reddit discussion explaining what is going on:
Is the "it's okay to be white" campaign racist? • r/NoStupidQuestions

Liberals bite:
Is it okay to be white?

So one of the tricky things about whiteness is that it’s an identity formed by disavowing your own subjectivity and particularity. White people are not a culture; we’re just people in general. Black people are always identified as black because they’re a deviation from the norm of whiteness. So insofar as whiteness is a norm and a self-disavowing superiority complex, it’s not okay.

A final thing that needs to be said is that whiteness is toxic to the degree that it is anxious and fearful.​

Is Posting a Sign that Reads 'It's OK to be White' RACIST? - Liberty Headlines

University President David Turpin released a statement saying: “[T]he university is aware of several incidents of racism that have occurred on north campus in recent days. Messaging or displays that target or marginalize any individuals or groups will not be tolerated. We are working with University of Alberta Protective Services to find the parties responsible.”

Turpin emphasized that the university is a “welcoming and safe environment for all people,” where we “proudly celebrate our Indigenous heritage, including the ancestral Treaty 6 lands and the Metis homeland on which our university is located.”....

Meanwhile, the hunt continues for those responsible for the “disturbing racist Halloween pumpkin” and the “It’s OK to be white” signs.​

‘It’s OK To Be White’ poster taped to pole in Old Town Warrenton

It’s unclear if any other posters were tacked around Warrenton overnight, but Warrenton Police Chief Louis Battle said there had been no other reports.

The poster is the latest in a string of racially-motivated incidents around Fauquier and Prince William in recent months.

In September, dozens of fliers associated with the self-described “southern nationalist” and “alt-right” group Identity Dixie were found tacked to utility poles throughout Old Town Warrenton ahead of an anti-white supremacy march.

Also in September, a Dumfries man was charged with hate crimes after intimidating messages promoting white supremacy were left at a historically-black Dumfries church and other locations in Prince William County.

And on Oct. 22, vandals spray-painted Nazi swastikas on signs at the Prince William Academy school in Woodbridge.​

Liberals just cant help themselves and reflexively categorize "It's OK to be White" with swastikas, lol, and have police hunting down the posters. roflmao

The next one is just hilarious, with the idiot leftist not even realizing he is contradicting himself in the same damned statement.

Signs that read "it's okay to be white" found on campus this morning

According to Mike Strecker, executive director for Tulane public relations, President Mike Fitts’ office is currently reviewing available video surveillance footage to determine the responsible parties.

“We believe these signs were posted at Tulane as part of a national campaign” Strecker said. “To state the obvious, it is “okay” to be any race.We have no idea who posted the signs, but that person is obviously not speaking for Tulane University. Tulane is firmly committed to diversity and to supporting every member of our community.”​

So this idiot seems to think that there is something incompatible beetween being for diversity and saying it is OK to be white.

If this does not convince a person that 'diversity' is merely code for being anti-white, I dont know what could convince.


Do you think these signs are racist?

Every place I have been where people talk about white pride it has been the same people who turn out to be racist pigs. Maybe its a St Louis and Las Vegas thing.

So, no, the sign itself and what it says is not evil. All my red flags get raised though.

 

[usmbguest5318]

Are Signs Stating that "It is OK to be White" Racist?

Men build too many walls and not enough bridges.
-- Joseph Fort Newton​

Whether it's okay to be a white racist, or any other kind of bigot, is not, AFAIC, a matter of public opinion. It is a matter of what is soundly, cogently merited on ethical, moral, and intellectual bases. You know as well as I that popular opinion and what's true or ethically right rarely have anything to do with one another.

Truly, I don't care whether 1M or 100M or 1B individuals think racism is okay. That they do just means that a lot of people are "messed up" in their heads and hearts. My set of principles call me to rigorously analyse the world in which I live, situations that come about in it, and so on, and, in turn, draw my own conclusions, particularly when the conclusions affect one's thinking about and behavior toward other individuals and groups thereof. (I think everyone has a duty to do that, yet I routinely see evidence that not everyone carries out that duty.) That doesn't mean the conclusions are "written in stone;" it means that barring the arrival of new information that materially alters the relevance of the body of information that led preponderantly to the initial conclusion at which one arrived via sound reasoning, the conclusion stands.

It is not our differences that divide us. It is our inability to recognize, accept, and celebrate those differences.
-- Audre Lorde, Our Dead Behind Us: Poems​

 

[Coyote]

When the left wing racists stops saying only black lives matter, then the white racists will stop saying white lives matter....

No one has said only black lives matter.

 

[Coyote]

This is the CDZ. Behave.

 

[JimBowie1958]

Are Signs Stating that "It is OK to be White" Racist?

Truly, I don't care whether 1M or 100M or 1B individuals think racism is okay.

But you are begging the question; is it racist to assert that it is OK to be white?

 

[JimBowie1958]

When the left wing racists stops saying only black lives matter, then the white racists will stop saying white lives matter....

No one has said only black lives matter.

Well you cannot say that ALL lives matter only that black lives matter. So it would seem to be implied.

Every Time You Say "All Lives Matter" You Are Being an Accidental Racist | HuffPost

The basic premise behind “All Lives Matter” = we should not highlight that black lives matter because all lives matter.

As it turns out, you’re not wrong: all lives do matter. But the problem with this premise lies in what goes unaddressed in your line of thinking.

See, “Black Lives Matter“ is trying to highlight that there is demonstrable evidence that black lives matter less than white lives to the criminal justice system (and the American government as a whole).​

So to disagree with the underlying premise that cops target black people or that, due to ethnic and economic factors we may have different outcomes among different ethnic groups( like more Phds among the Chinese immigrants than among Hmong immigrants) we can have more black imprisoned at higher rates without it being due to inherent racism in the justice system, to merely assert that is racist. To imply that by saying all lives matter and denying their underlying presumption is also therefore racist in their group oriented logic.


Why ‘All Lives Matter’ Is Such a Perilous Phrase

Those in the Black Lives Matter movement say black people are in immediate danger and need immediate attention, like the broken bone or house on fire.

Saying “All Lives Matter” in response would suggest to them that all people are in equal danger, invalidating the specific concerns of black people.

“You’re watering the house that’s not burning, but you’re choosing to leave the house that’s burning unattended,” said Allen Kwabena Frimpong, an organizer for the New York chapter of Black Lives Matter. “It’s irresponsible.”​

No, not all houses need to be hosed down with water and any idiot firemen that did that would place the city under a lawsuit because unnecessary hosing of private property causes property damage. So it is a stupid analogy to begin with, but also ignores the implicit understanding in Reality that it is that Only houses on fire need to be hosed down anyway. Are BLM advocates saying that white people do not have a right to just treatment under our nations laws because we are not 'on fire'?

One does not correct injustice in our legal system by treating people differently, you achieve justice by treating everyone equally no matter what the conditions are and then render the verdicts that are appropriate.

So Mt Frimpong is wrong, to give special attention to black lives in our jurisprudence would be a disaster and not helping anything at all.


This is what white people can do to support #BlackLivesMatter

It is not up to Black Lives Matter, nor any movement led by and for communities of color, to make space for or articulate a vision for white people. The expectation that black leaders and movements should automatically do so is a subtle extension of the sort of white-centric entitlement that gives rise to the need for such movements in the first place. Then again, we haven’t exactly blazed a path to enlightenment and liberation so far on our own.​

So we cannot reason with each other across racial and ethnic lines according to these racialist provocateurs.

You can only communicate within your own race and ethnicity according to these race baiting Marxist shills.

No doubt Dr Goebbels is laughing his ass off in Hell right now.

 

[ricechickie]

When the left wing racists stops saying only black lives matter, then the white racists will stop saying white lives matter....

Except no one says “only black lives matter.” That’s a canard.

 

[JimBowie1958]

When the left wing racists stops saying only black lives matter, then the white racists will stop saying white lives matter....

Except no one says “only black lives matter.” That’s a canard.

No, no one is that stupid.

You just cannot say that all lives matter without these racists in BLM attacking you as a racist, lol.

Thus only black lives matter, because only blacks houses are on fire is EXACTLY what they are implying.

 

[ricechickie]

When the left wing racists stops saying only black lives matter, then the white racists will stop saying white lives matter....

Except no one says “only black lives matter.” That’s a canard.

No, no one is that stupid.

You just cannot say that all lives matter without these racists in BLM attacking you as a racist, lol.

Thus only black lives matter, because only blacks houses are on fire is EXACTLY what they are implying.

Nope.

The saying “black lives matter” arose from the situation in our society where white lives are valued and worthy of protection, but when a black person loses his/her life, especially at the hands of a police officer, they are blamed for their own demise a dozen different ways to Sunday.

Would you feel less chapped about it if the slogan was “black lives matter, too”?

 

[ricechickie]

So to answer the original question, a sign reassuring Caucasians that “it’s ok to be white” is not any more racist than a slogan that says “black lives matter.”

 

[JimBowie1958]

The saying “black lives matter” arose from the situation in our society where white lives are valued and worthy of protection, but when a black person loses his/her life, especially at the hands of a police officer, they are blamed for their own demise a dozen different ways to Sunday.

That is not a true statement and has been debunked many times. Whites are more likely to be shot than blacks in violent confrontation with cops using guns.

Would you feel less chapped about it if the slogan was “black lives matter, too”?

I am not concerned with ideological slogans.

I simply want to see more transparency in our police forces, more community outreach in all communities and some kind of activity between young people and cops so that young people and cops can all see the other on their best behavior regularly instead of only criminal behavior. Why not have municipal basketball and other sports competitions between cops and civilian teams?

We need to take cops off the revenue gathering mission and put them back to patrolling neighborhoods and giving assistance to the people that live there of all races.

 

[ricechickie]

The saying “black lives matter” arose from the situation in our society where white lives are valued and worthy of protection, but when a black person loses his/her life, especially at the hands of a police officer, they are blamed for their own demise a dozen different ways to Sunday.

That is not a true statement and has been debunked many times. Whites are more likely to be shot than blacks in violent confrontation with cops using guns.

Would you feel less chapped about it if the slogan was “black lives matter, too”?

I am not concerned with ideological slogans.

I simply want to see more transparency in our police forces, more community outreach in all communities and some kind of activity between young people and cops so that young people and cops can all see the other on their best behavior regularly instead of only criminal behavior. Why not have municipal basketball and other sports competitions between cops and civilian teams?

We need to take cops off the revenue gathering mission and put them back to patrolling neighborhoods and giving assistance to the people that live there of all races.

There’s a difference between justified and unjustified use of force. I don’t know if whites are more likely to be shot by police because of population differences. I don’t know how many of those shootings are considered justified after review.

 

[JimBowie1958]

5 Statistics You Need To Know About Cops Killing Blacks

1. According to data compiled by The Washington Post, 50 percent of the victims of fatal police shootings were white, while 26 percent were black. The majority of these victims had a gun or "were armed or otherwise threatening the officer with potentially lethal force,"....

MacDonald also pointed out in her Hillsdale speech that blacks "commit 75 percent of all shootings, 70 percent of all robberies, and 66 percent of all violent crime" in New York City, even though they consist of 23 percent of the city's population.

"The black violent crime rate would actually predict that more than 26 percent of police victims would be black," MacDonald said. "Officer use of force will occur where the police interact most often with violent criminals, armed suspects, and those resisting arrest, and that is in black neighborhoods."...

2. More whites and Hispanics die from police homicides than blacks. According to Mac Donald, 12 percent of white and Hispanic homicide deaths were due to police officers, while only four percent of black homicide deaths were the result of police officers....

3. The Post's data does show that unarmed black men are more likely to die by the gun of a cop than an unarmed white man...but this does not tell the whole story. In August 2015, the ratio was seven-to-one of unarmed black men dying from police gunshots compared to unarmed white men; the ratio was six-to-one by the end of 2015. But Mac Donald points out in The Marshall Project that looking at the details of the actual incidents that occurred paints a different picture:

The “unarmed” label is literally accurate, but it frequently fails to convey highly-charged policing situations. In a number of cases, if the victim ended up being unarmed, it was certainly not for lack of trying. At least five black victims had reportedly tried to grab the officer’s gun, or had been beating the cop with his own equipment....

4. Black and Hispanic police officers are more likely to fire a gun at blacks than white officers. This is according to a Department of Justice report in 2015 about the Philadelphia Police Department, and is further confirmed that by a study conducted University of Pennsylvania criminologist Greg Ridgeway in 2015 that determined black cops were 3.3 times more likely to fire a gun than other cops at a crime scene....

5. Blacks are more likely to kill cops than be killed by cops. This is according to FBI data, which also found that 40 percent of cop killers are black. According to Mac Donald, the police officer is 18.5 times more likely to be killed by a black than a cop killing an unarmed black person.

Despite the facts, the anti-police rhetoric of Black Lives Matter and their leftist sympathizers have resulted in what Mac Donald calls the "Ferguson Effect," as murders have spiked by 17 percent among the 50 biggest cities in the U.S. as a result of cops being more reluctant to police neighborhoods out of fear of being labeled as racists.​

Yes, innocent black lives do matter and that is why they need MORE patrolling in their neighborhoods and more protection from the criminals in their own communities.

That does not happen by tying the hands of cops every time that they enter those communities.

 

[Coyote]

When people start a movement like Black Lives Matter. It isn't racist. And it isn't ONLY.

That is something added by worried fearful people who as a group are feeling excluded and discriminated against by what the see as a rising tide of minirities who can claim a distinct identity while they get labeled racist if they do. The rise in visibility of white supremacists who skillfully whitewash their racist views to become more mainstream is a symptom of, not the cause of, a wider cultural upheaval in our country. An upheaval where working class white men are feeling the brunt of economic disenfranchisement and the loss of traditional jobs AND identities to minorities, to women.

On the other side, in Black Lives Matter, a group started by parents of black youth killed in police altercations, feel that black lives are devalued in our society, that all other lives matter more. Their goal is to bring public attention to what they see as unnecessary police violence and disproportionately targeting unarmed blacks and through that fomenting political change. You can agree or disagree with their view, but it is not and has never been racist unless you stretch the meaning of racist to include simply speaking out on racial issues.

Rather than look at the complex issues surrounding race in America we feel safer labeling certain movements and views as racist or terrorist (another overused term).

And despite those who poo poo feelings, it IS about feelings and perceptions because it is those that create the reality we operate in. It doesn't matter what the facts are when you are having to make a career change after years of being a well paid machinist in a company that has closed its doors in your town and no one is paying attention. Nor do facts matter when your unarmed son was pulled over by the police for a minor matter and shot while pulling out his wallet. And to the world, all he is is another stastic.


From Death of a Salesman:

I don’t say he’s a great man. Willy Loman never made a lot of money. His name was never in the paper. He’s not the finest character that ever lived. But he’s a human being, and a terrible thing is happening to him. So attention must be paid. He’s not to be allowed to fall into his grave like an old dog. Attention, attention must be finally paid to such a person ​

 

[usmbguest5318]

Are Signs Stating that "It is OK to be White" Racist?

Truly, I don't care whether 1M or 100M or 1B individuals think racism is okay.

But you are begging the question; is it racist to assert that it is OK to be white?

No, it is not "racist to assert that it is OK to be white."

 

[ClosedCaption]

Are Signs Stating that "It is OK to be White" Racist?

No, just a bit snowflakey.

It' like those people who have those bumper stickers that read "If I'm doing the speed limit why should I move over to let you break the law?"

It's like...aww, go fuck yourself you fucking baby

 

[cnm]

I look more like my white (Austrian) side than my Spanish side

I'll never get American racism. Austrian is white but Spanish is not! Smh.

 

[cnm]

When the left wing racists stops saying only black lives matter, then the white racists will stop saying white lives matter....

Anyone else note the snivel in this one?

edit...Been done I see. I've never heard anyone say only black lives matter.

 

[Toronado3800]

When the left wing racists stops saying only black lives matter, then the white racists will stop saying white lives matter....

Spoken like a true party cheerleader