Arctic Ice

[westwall]

Sea Ice : Feature Articles

The largest loss of sea ice is north of Siberia and Alaska. The area shown on that map retains a much higher percentage of ice due to ocean currents. You can readily see that on this map from last year.

Wow. Would you look at that! There's STILL ice up there. So....when is it going to go away? So far I think there have been 2 or 3 different years that have come and gone where the ice was going to be gone....and still it is there.....laughing at you!

It is only in your fraudulent, deliberately deceptive denier cult mythologies that "there have been 2 or 3 different years that have come and gone where the ice was going to be gone".

In the real world, not too many years ago, the consensus among climate scientists studying the Arctic was that it might take until 2100 for the Arctic to be ice free in the summers.....now, after watching the unexpected speed at which the ice cap is melting, most of these scientists are saying that it will probably be ice free by 2030 or possibly sooner. It has never been the scientific consensus that the north polar ice would all be melted by now.

The world is laughing at you anti-science, reality-challenged denier cult nutjobs.

Show us the science then silly boy. Show us the science. Not computer generated fiction. But real science. Go ahead, I dare you.

 

[westwall]

In the real world....here is NASA's satellite photography.....actual photographic evidence.

This image shows the multiyear sea ice in 1980.

This image shows the multiyear sea ice in 2012.

No junior. Those are computer generated cartoons. Sheesh you're dumb.

 

[RollingThunder]

Sea Ice : Feature Articles

The largest loss of sea ice is north of Siberia and Alaska. The area shown on that map retains a much higher percentage of ice due to ocean currents. You can readily see that on this map from last year.

Wow. Would you look at that! There's STILL ice up there. So....when is it going to go away? So far I think there have been 2 or 3 different years that have come and gone where the ice was going to be gone....and still it is there.....laughing at you!

It is only in your fraudulent, deliberately deceptive denier cult mythologies that "there have been 2 or 3 different years that have come and gone where the ice was going to be gone".

In the real world, not too many years ago, the consensus among climate scientists studying the Arctic was that it might take until 2100 for the Arctic to be ice free in the summers.....now, after watching the unexpected speed at which the ice cap is melting, most of these scientists are saying that it will probably be ice free by 2030 or possibly sooner. It has never been the scientific consensus that the north polar ice would all be melted by now.

The world is laughing at you anti-science, reality-challenged denier cult nutjobs.

Show us the science then silly boy. Show us the science. Not computer generated fiction. But real science. Go ahead, I dare you.

OK, little retard, here ya go....



NOAA: 'Arctic Is Warming at Least Twice as Fast as the Rest of the Planet'
Dec. 14, 2016
The Arctic broke multiple climate records and saw its highest temperatures ever recorded this year, according to the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration's (NOAA) annual Arctic Report Card released Tuesday.

Map: Temperatures across the Arctic from October 2015-September 2016 compared to the 1981-2010 average. Graph: Yearly temperatures since 1900 compared to the 1981-2010 average for the Arctic (orange line) and the globe (gray).NOAA

The report shows surface air temperature in September at the highest level since 1900 "by far" and the region set new monthly record highs in January, February, October and November. "The Arctic as a whole is warming at least twice as fast as the rest of the planet," report author and NOAA climate scientist Jeremy Mathis told NPR.

Report Card Highlights

* The average surface air temperature for the year ending September 2016 is by far the highest since 1900 and new monthly record highs were recorded for January, February, October and November 2016.

* After only modest changes from 2013-2015, minimum sea ice extent at the end of summer 2016 tied with 2007 for the second lowest in the satellite record, which started in 1979.

* Spring snow cover extent in the North American Arctic was the lowest in the satellite record, which started in 1967.

* In 37 years of Greenland ice sheet observations, only one year had earlier onset of spring melting than 2016.

* The Arctic Ocean is especially prone to ocean acidification, due to water temperatures that are colder than those further south. The short Arctic food chain leaves Arctic marine ecosystems vulnerable to ocean acidification events.

* Thawing permafrost releases carbon into the atmosphere, whereas greening tundra absorbs atmospheric carbon. Overall, tundra is presently releasing net carbon into the atmosphere.

* Small Arctic mammals, such as shrews, and their parasites, serve as indicators for present and historical environmental variability. Newly acquired parasites indicate northward sifts of sub-Arctic species and increases in Arctic biodiversity.

 

[westwall]

Sea Ice : Feature Articles

The largest loss of sea ice is north of Siberia and Alaska. The area shown on that map retains a much higher percentage of ice due to ocean currents. You can readily see that on this map from last year.

Wow. Would you look at that! There's STILL ice up there. So....when is it going to go away? So far I think there have been 2 or 3 different years that have come and gone where the ice was going to be gone....and still it is there.....laughing at you!

It is only in your fraudulent, deliberately deceptive denier cult mythologies that "there have been 2 or 3 different years that have come and gone where the ice was going to be gone".

In the real world, not too many years ago, the consensus among climate scientists studying the Arctic was that it might take until 2100 for the Arctic to be ice free in the summers.....now, after watching the unexpected speed at which the ice cap is melting, most of these scientists are saying that it will probably be ice free by 2030 or possibly sooner. It has never been the scientific consensus that the north polar ice would all be melted by now.

The world is laughing at you anti-science, reality-challenged denier cult nutjobs.

Show us the science then silly boy. Show us the science. Not computer generated fiction. But real science. Go ahead, I dare you.

OK, little retard, here ya go....



NOAA: 'Arctic Is Warming at Least Twice as Fast as the Rest of the Planet'
Dec. 14, 2016
The Arctic broke multiple climate records and saw its highest temperatures ever recorded this year, according to the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration's (NOAA) annual Arctic Report Card released Tuesday.

Map: Temperatures across the Arctic from October 2015-September 2016 compared to the 1981-2010 average. Graph: Yearly temperatures since 1900 compared to the 1981-2010 average for the Arctic (orange line) and the globe (gray).NOAA

The report shows surface air temperature in September at the highest level since 1900 "by far" and the region set new monthly record highs in January, February, October and November. "The Arctic as a whole is warming at least twice as fast as the rest of the planet," report author and NOAA climate scientist Jeremy Mathis told NPR.

Report Card Highlights

* The average surface air temperature for the year ending September 2016 is by far the highest since 1900 and new monthly record highs were recorded for January, February, October and November 2016.

* After only modest changes from 2013-2015, minimum sea ice extent at the end of summer 2016 tied with 2007 for the second lowest in the satellite record, which started in 1979.

* Spring snow cover extent in the North American Arctic was the lowest in the satellite record, which started in 1967.

* In 37 years of Greenland ice sheet observations, only one year had earlier onset of spring melting than 2016.

* The Arctic Ocean is especially prone to ocean acidification, due to water temperatures that are colder than those further south. The short Arctic food chain leaves Arctic marine ecosystems vulnerable to ocean acidification events.

* Thawing permafrost releases carbon into the atmosphere, whereas greening tundra absorbs atmospheric carbon. Overall, tundra is presently releasing net carbon into the atmosphere.

* Small Arctic mammals, such as shrews, and their parasites, serve as indicators for present and historical environmental variability. Newly acquired parasites indicate northward sifts of sub-Arctic species and increases in Arctic biodiversity.

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No retarded one, that is yet more computer derived fiction. Do you even KNOW what is real and what isn't? I am beginning to think not.

 

[SSDD]

No retarded one, that is yet more computer derived fiction. Do you even KNOW what is real and what isn't? I am beginning to think not.

Of course he can't differentiate between what is real and what isn't...none of them can. If they had their feet planted firmly in reality, they wouldn't be victims of the scam.

 

[RollingThunder]

Sea Ice : Feature Articles

The largest loss of sea ice is north of Siberia and Alaska. The area shown on that map retains a much higher percentage of ice due to ocean currents. You can readily see that on this map from last year.

Wow. Would you look at that! There's STILL ice up there. So....when is it going to go away? So far I think there have been 2 or 3 different years that have come and gone where the ice was going to be gone....and still it is there.....laughing at you!

It is only in your fraudulent, deliberately deceptive denier cult mythologies that "there have been 2 or 3 different years that have come and gone where the ice was going to be gone".

In the real world, not too many years ago, the consensus among climate scientists studying the Arctic was that it might take until 2100 for the Arctic to be ice free in the summers.....now, after watching the unexpected speed at which the ice cap is melting, most of these scientists are saying that it will probably be ice free by 2030 or possibly sooner. It has never been the scientific consensus that the north polar ice would all be melted by now.

The world is laughing at you anti-science, reality-challenged denier cult nutjobs.

Show us the science then silly boy. Show us the science. Not computer generated fiction. But real science. Go ahead, I dare you.

OK, little retard, here ya go....



NOAA: 'Arctic Is Warming at Least Twice as Fast as the Rest of the Planet'
Dec. 14, 2016
The Arctic broke multiple climate records and saw its highest temperatures ever recorded this year, according to the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration's (NOAA) annual Arctic Report Card released Tuesday.

Map: Temperatures across the Arctic from October 2015-September 2016 compared to the 1981-2010 average. Graph: Yearly temperatures since 1900 compared to the 1981-2010 average for the Arctic (orange line) and the globe (gray).NOAA

The report shows surface air temperature in September at the highest level since 1900 "by far" and the region set new monthly record highs in January, February, October and November. "The Arctic as a whole is warming at least twice as fast as the rest of the planet," report author and NOAA climate scientist Jeremy Mathis told NPR.

Report Card Highlights

* The average surface air temperature for the year ending September 2016 is by far the highest since 1900 and new monthly record highs were recorded for January, February, October and November 2016.

* After only modest changes from 2013-2015, minimum sea ice extent at the end of summer 2016 tied with 2007 for the second lowest in the satellite record, which started in 1979.

* Spring snow cover extent in the North American Arctic was the lowest in the satellite record, which started in 1967.

* In 37 years of Greenland ice sheet observations, only one year had earlier onset of spring melting than 2016.

* The Arctic Ocean is especially prone to ocean acidification, due to water temperatures that are colder than those further south. The short Arctic food chain leaves Arctic marine ecosystems vulnerable to ocean acidification events.

* Thawing permafrost releases carbon into the atmosphere, whereas greening tundra absorbs atmospheric carbon. Overall, tundra is presently releasing net carbon into the atmosphere.

* Small Arctic mammals, such as shrews, and their parasites, serve as indicators for present and historical environmental variability. Newly acquired parasites indicate northward sifts of sub-Arctic species and increases in Arctic biodiversity.

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No retarded one, that is yet more computer derived fiction.

Nope, you poor deluded imbecile, that is science, something you moronically deny.

And these are NOT "computer derived fiction", as your wacko anti-science denier cult myths tell you....they are, in fact, real images of the Arctic ice extent derived from NASA satellite photography.




This image shows the multiyear sea ice in 1980.

This image shows the multiyear sea ice in 2012.

 

[westwall]

"Image".. Not a photograph nimrod. In other words it is made up, fictional, not reality.

 

[Crick]

Derived from NASA satellite photography.

If you think they're false, show us WHY you think so and show us what you think the multi-year ice has actually done - using a reliable source, of course.

 

[RollingThunder]

"Image".. Not a photograph nimrod. In other words it is made up, fictional, not reality.

You are so stupid, walleyed, you don't understand what simple words actually mean. "Image" DOES NOT MEAN "made up, fictional, not reality", you poor deluded dumbshit.

In the real world....

Image - noun
* a physical likeness or representation of a person, animal, or thing, photographed, painted, sculptured, or otherwise made visible.

* an optical counterpart or appearance of an object, as is produced by reflection from a mirror, refraction by a lens, or the passage of luminous rays through a small aperture and their reception on a surface.

* form; appearance; counterpart; copy.

verb
* to picture or represent.

* to reflect the likeness of.

 

[RollingThunder]

"Image".. Not a photograph nimrod. In other words it is made up, fictional, not reality.

You are so stupid, walleyed, you don't understand what simple words actually mean. "Image" DOES NOT MEAN "made up, fictional, not reality", you poor deluded dumbshit.

NASA does indeed take photographs with orbital satellites of the entire Earth, including the Arctic. Those actual real world photos are what is used to generate those comparison pictures of Arctic ice loss that I posted.

In the real world....

Image - noun
* a physical likeness or representation of a person, animal, or thing, photographed, painted, sculptured, or otherwise made visible.

* an optical counterpart or appearance of an object, as is produced by reflection from a mirror, refraction by a lens, or the passage of luminous rays through a small aperture and their reception on a surface.

* form; appearance; counterpart; copy.

verb
* to picture or represent.

* to reflect the likeness of.

 

[westwall]

"Image".. Not a photograph nimrod. In other words it is made up, fictional, not reality.

You are so stupid, walleyed, you don't understand what simple words actually mean. "Image" DOES NOT MEAN "made up, fictional, not reality", you poor deluded dumbshit.

NASA does indeed take photographs with orbital satellites of the entire Earth, including the Arctic. Those actual real world photos are what is used to generate those comparison pictures of Arctic ice loss that I posted.

In the real world....

Image - noun
* a physical likeness or representation of a person, animal, or thing, photographed, painted, sculptured, or otherwise made visible.

* an optical counterpart or appearance of an object, as is produced by reflection from a mirror, refraction by a lens, or the passage of luminous rays through a small aperture and their reception on a surface.

* form; appearance; counterpart; copy.

verb
* to picture or represent.

* to reflect the likeness of.

"LIKENESS OF". In other words, dumbshit, they can make it look however they wish. It is not an "ACCURATE REPRESENTATION." Look up the difference silly boy.

 

[RollingThunder]

"Image".. Not a photograph nimrod. In other words it is made up, fictional, not reality.

You are so stupid, walleyed, you don't understand what simple words actually mean. "Image" DOES NOT MEAN "made up, fictional, not reality", you poor deluded dumbshit.

NASA does indeed take photographs with orbital satellites of the entire Earth, including the Arctic. Those actual real world photos are what is used to generate those comparison pictures of Arctic ice loss that I posted.

In the real world....

Image
- noun
* a physical likeness or representation of a person, animal, or thing, photographed, painted, sculptured, or otherwise made visible.

* an optical counterpart or appearance of an object, as is produced by reflection from a mirror, refraction by a lens, or the passage of luminous rays through a small aperture and their reception on a surface.

* form; appearance; counterpart; copy.

verb
* to picture or represent.

* to reflect the likeness of.

"LIKENESS OF". In other words, dumbshit, they can make it look however they wish. It is not an "ACCURATE REPRESENTATION." Look up the difference silly boy.

"LIKENESS OF" DOES NOT MEAN "they can make it look however they wish", you poor deluded retard. The images from NASA that I posted are, in fact, very "ACCURATE REPRESENTATIONS" of the satellite photography.

Your demented denial of this fact rests entirely on your insanely crackpot belief that all of the world's scientists who study some aspect of the Earth's climate systems are ALL part of a huge conspiracy to falsify their data.....and you are too stupid and too much of a troll to realize how absolutely insane you sound.

 

[Crick]

Westwall, he is correct. The arguments you've all fallen back on all require a massive, near universal and perfectly executed conspiracy lasting decades. The idea is insane on its face. Look at yourself. Is this how you want the world to perceive you? Insane? Ignorant? Self-deluded? Have the balls to admit what the evidence actually says.

 

[polarbear]

Derived from NASA satellite photography.

If you think they're false, show us WHY you think so and show us what you think the multi-year ice has actually done - using a reliable source, of course.

Okay why don't you try and find a genuine image showing the polar ice cover.
google it using this or any other search term and choose "image".
ice cover satellite image - Google Search
All you get is stuff like this:

Is it real or is it "memorex" ?
It's not real:
This image was compiled using data gathered by NASA's Aqua satellite on Sept. 3, 2010. Credit: NASA Goddard's Scientific Visualization Studio
Obviously so, just look at the colors on the land mass. That's how a photo of a globe you can get at Walmart looks like.

There are real images:

For some strange reason they will not post a real image like this one of the entire arctic region or post all the segment images to give you a complete set.

 

[Crick]

And here is a real image of today's Arctic ice extents

Arctic sea ice maximum at record low for third straight year
March 22, 2017


Arctic sea ice appears to have reached its annual maximum extent on March 7. This is the lowest maximum in the 38-year satellite record. NSIDC will post a detailed analysis of the 2016 to 2017 winter sea ice conditions in our regular monthly post in early April.
Overview of conditions
On March 7, 2017, Arctic sea ice likely reached its maximum extent for the year, at 14.42 million square kilometers (5.57 million square miles), the lowest in the 38-year satellite record. This year’s maximum extent is 1.22 million square kilometers (471,000 square miles) below the 1981 to 2010 average maximum of 15.64 million square kilometers (6.04 million square miles) and 97,000 square kilometers (37,000 square miles) below the previous lowest maximum that occurred on February 25, 2015. This year’s maximum is 100,000 square kilometers (39,000 square miles) below the 2016 maximum, which is now third lowest. (In 2016, we reported that year’s maximum as the lowest and 2015 the second lowest. An update to the Sea Ice Index last summer has changed our numbers slightly.)

www.nsidc.org

 

[Crick]

And if you'd like to argue that your images are real and mine aren't, I'll show you photographs of dinosaurs, blue aliens and women with three breasts.

 

[mamooth]

For some strange reason they will not post a real image like this one of the entire arctic region or post all the segment images to give you a complete set.

That's because of things called "clouds" that make visual spectrum images useless for determining total sea ice extent

You understand what a cloud is, and how clouds will block visible light, right? Given the near-complete lack of scientific knowledge and engineering common sense displayed by essentially all conservatives on every subject, I have to start by asking about such basic concepts.

Ice extent maps are generated from satellite microwave sounder instruments, which are unaffected by clouds. Here's an example.

 

[RollingThunder]

Meanwhile....back on topic in the real world....Arctic ice is significantly lower in extent so far this year than it was back in 2012, the last 'lowest Arctic sea ice extent on record' year.....the previous record low extent having occurred in 2007. If this trend continues through to the minimum extent in mid-September, 2017 will easily wind up as the new 'lowest Arctic sea ice extent on record' year.

To give you an idea of the scale of the recent ice losses as the Arctic melts, 2012's minimum sea ice extent was 760,000 square kilometers (293,000 square miles) below the previous record minimum extent in the satellite record, which occurred on September 18, 2007. This is an area about the size of the state of Texas.

Looking at it in a larger context, the September 2012 minimum was 3.29 million square kilometers (1.27 million square miles) below the 1979 to 2000 average minimum, which is an area nearly twice the size of the state of Alaska. The minimum extent in 2012 was 18% below 2007 and 49% below the 1979 to 2000 average. The decline in sea ice extent this year, 2017, looks like it may wind up being even larger.

 

[westwall]

Derived from NASA satellite photography.

If you think they're false, show us WHY you think so and show us what you think the multi-year ice has actually done - using a reliable source, of course.

Sooooo, if it is "derived" why change it? "Derived" implies change. How about posting what was ACTUALLY photographed? Maybe because what is being photographed doesn't conform to pre conceived ideas?

Kind of like this "enhanced image" provided by NASA....?

This is what they produced based on data "derived" from the satellite.

But this is what the satellite actually recorded. Kind of a huge difference don't ya think?

 

[Old Rocks]

What a fucked up liar you are, Mr. Westwall. You cherry pick one period, and try to pretend that represents the whole year. You are as fucked up mentally as your orange clown idol.

NASA Viz: A New Picture of Carbon Dioxide