Strange Historical Temp Records...

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    Looking back on historical yearly mean temperature averages for a number of U.S. cities, it would appear some simple homework on actual recorded temps shows a decided lack of a global warming crisis throughout the United States...

    Take Miami for example. From June 2008 to June 2009, the average mean was 77 degrees. That is two degrees cooler for that same time period 20 years earlier, and is the same yearly average of 1958-1959 - fifty years ago! Miami has not seen any increased warming in fifty years of temperature data.

    Then we have New York. Its mean temperature average for June 2008-June 2009 was 56 degrees. That is a full degree cooler than ten years ago, and the same average temperature from 50 years ago. There has been no warming for New York either.

    How about Chicago? the 2008-2009 temperature average was 49 degrees. This is three degrees cooler than ten years ago, and two degrees cooler than fifty years ago. No overall warming in Chicago over the last fifty years.

    How about some West Coast data? In Seattle, the 2008-2009 mean temperature average was 52 degrees. This is a full two degrees cooler than ten years ago, and is the same average as fifty years ago. No warming trend in Seattle.

    If you jump down to Los Angeles, the temps appear to vary greatly - with a 64 degree average in 2008-2009, which is two degrees warmer than ten years ago, but two degrees cooler than 50 years ago.

    Let's take a look at some desert temps shall we? Phoenix had a 2008-2009 average of 76 degrees. This is one degree lower than the average of 20 years ago, but a degree higher from 50 years ago, so we put Phoenix in the slightly warmer column as compared to the year to year average 50 years prior.

    What of Denver? Its 2008-2009 temperature average was 52 degrees. This is the same as ten years ago, and twenty years ago, though one degree higher than 50 years ago, so like Phoenix, Denver's most recent year to year average was slightly higher than a half-century earlier.

    Of these seven locations spread throughout the continental United States, we see a net lowering of year to year average temperatures.

    That's right, it is colder now than 50 years ago...

    But we better pass that Cap n Trade legislation post-haste before the rest of America finally figures that out...


    Miami: 1958-1959: 77 Degree Average
    2008-2009: 77 Degree Average (Same)

    New York: 1958-1959: 56 Degree Average
    2008-2009: 56 Degree Average (Same)

    Chicago: 1958-1959: 51 Degree Average
    2008-2009: 49 Degree Average (-2)

    Denver: 1958-1959: 51 Degree Average
    2008-2009 : 52 Degree Average (+1)

    Seattle: 1958-1959: 55 Degree Average
    2008-2009: 52 Degree Average (-3)

    L.A. 1958-1959: 66 Degree Average
    2008-2009: 64 Degree Average (-2)

    Phoenix: 1958-1959: 75 Degree Average
    2008-2009: 76 Degree Average (+1)
     
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    Some more interesting temperature data.

    Utilizing three year-to-year averaging points, we see that the average temperature for the city of Seattle in the 1980s came in at 60.3 degrees.

    When comparing to this current decade utilizing the same three year-to-year averaging, we come up with an overall temperature average of 59.1 degrees - a full 1.2 degrees cooler!

    Now if we are in the midst of man-made global warming, why the reduction in temperatures over a 20-year period of increased man-made CO2?

    Jump across the continent to New York, and a similar, albeit less drastic, outcome results.

    New York saw a 1980s temperature average of 61.6 degrees.

    So far this current decade has seen a temperature average of 61.3 degrees - another reduction in overall average temperatures!

    Jump across the pond to England and a similar temperature reduction story plays out.

    Utilizing the same year-to-year averaging done for Seattle and New York, we see a 1980s temperature average for London of 11.13 C / 52.03 degrees.

    For the current decade this average has fallen to 11.03 / 51.85 degrees.

    Even London, a hotbed of global warming alarmism is seeing its yearly average temperatures declining in relation to temperatures from two decades prior.

    Al Gore still has no comment...
     
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    more necon ramblings....
     
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    Lies ... all lies .... Al Gore is the prophet! How dare you!

    Ooops, sorry, channeling the wingnuts a bit there .... or perhaps foretelling what they will cry about.
     
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    If you find the truth to be rambling - then so be it! The 1990s were warmer than normal. The last decade has been not only cooler than the 1990s, but in fact cooler than the 1980s
    as well as other decades prior in the 20th Century.

    Lastly, I am familiar with the term neocon - but what is a "necon"?

    Is that the sound Al Gore makes when attempting to lumber in and out of his limo?
     
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    Link?

    It hasn't snowed in Miami since 1977.

    Yesterday it was 100 degrees in Miami.

    :lol:
     
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    Miami you say?

    Yesterday, the recorded high was actually 98degrees.

    Now take the average temperature for Miami for the last year - that equals 77 degrees.

    This equals the average temperature ten years ago.

    It is also a full degree cooler than the average Miami temperature 20 years ago.

    Utilizing the same decade average as the other cities, Miami's temperatures during the current decade have averaged 76.6 degrees. This is nearly a full degree cooler than the previous decade.

    It does make the current decade average marginally warmer than the 1980s by .3 of a degree - but makes it no warmer than Miami 50 years ago when that decade also averaged 76.6 degrees.

    And getting back to a nice year-to-year comparison, from June 22, 1948 to June 22, 1949, the average temperature in Miami was 77 degrees.From June 22, 2008,
    to June 22, 2009, the average temperature in Miami was...77 degrees.

    So like almost all the other major city examples, while the 1990s were in fact marginally warmer than some previous decades, more significant cooling has been taking place since that time, bringing current temperature averages at, or in some cases below, historical normal averages for several decades prior.

    Including Miami.



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    Don't bother him with the facts.
     
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    Hottest temperatures ever recorded in South Florida
    June 22, 2:17 PM

    Hot like a desert but SoFla humid (NOAA)A heat advisory is in effect until 7 PM tonight and we could be near the all-time record highs. That means we will be near the hottest temperatures that have ever been recorded in South Florida. The highest ever recorded in Miami and Ft. Lauderdale was 100 degrees back on July 21, 1942 and August 4, 1944 respectively. West Palm Beach's highest recorded temperature was 101 degrees on July 21, 1942 as well. Yesterday records were broke all across South Florida and Ft. Lauderdale shattered their old record by 4 degrees with a high of 98, hottest June temperature ever recorded.

    Hottest temperatures ever recorded in South Florida
     

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