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Except that they dont.No. I disproved it. If there was no room for question, there would be no other religion.Actually, you proved his point. Think about it a sec.
Actually, BECAUSE there is no room for question in a religion, people leave and start another...and another...and another. And they go hammer and tongs over their differences too.
Except that I did not.As I said, you proved his point....sorry that you didn't see it on your own.
Well, I'm very skeptical by nature. Star Trek, sci-fi fan, etc. I believe in reasoned deduction, analyzing all facts at hand, etc. However, I am also a Christian and have felt God move in ways that are very difficult to relate to others that haven't felt it too.
I believe there are many things beyond science. Many things. How someone can look at the wondrous universe and believe that everything can be explained through science I simply don't know.
Finally, I was speaking to a doctor I know once. This guy is a leader in IVF research. I told him that I thought it was wonderful how he's able to help people to have children that otherwise might not. Know what he told me? He said "Science is great, but only God can make a baby." Quite refreshing and it was great to hear someone in his position have that opinion.
Interesting stuff.
Yes. That's why there is only one religion, and only one interpretation of that religion.Religion on the other had is not to be questioned. as many people put it, the word of god is unquestionable.
Catholicism and Lutheranism and Anglicanism, etc, are all products of questions and interpretations withing the same religion. Thus, there is room for question and interpretation within a religion.
your and my exact words:
I didnt think I'd need the [/sarcasm]. Guess I overestimated you.Yes. That's why there is only one religion, and only one interpretation of that religion.Religion on the other had is not to be questioned. as many people put it, the word of god is unquestionable.
Yes. What's your point? All are interpretations of the same religion, based on questions concerning that religion. Their existence disproves your statement that "Religion on the other had is not to be questioned. as many people put it, the word of [G]od is unquestionable."you then go on to say that there are multiple religions based on one founding idea.
What about them? Your question here is irrelevant to the issue at hand.but what about islam, buddiusm, Judaism and scientology? those are all religions based upon a different set of beliefs. are those then wrong? or is Christianity wrong?
Except that they dont.No. I disproved it. If there was no room for question, there would be no other religion.
Actually, BECAUSE there is no room for question in a religion, people leave and start another...and another...and another. And they go hammer and tongs over their differences too.
Catholicism and Lutheranism and Anglicanism, etc, are all products of questions and interpretations withing the same religion. Thus, there is room for question and interpretation within a religion.
Except that I did not.[/QUOTE]As I said, you proved his point....sorry that you didn't see it on your own.
No idiot, it is your side who is the sick freak liberal socialist pigs.Oh you mean like that recent string of Rs who kept trying to fuck aides or get head in the airport with a wide stance who were then labled democrats by Fox news repetedly?
What you fail to see is it is YOUR side who claims to be MORE Godly that defends the creeps in your midst.
No. As the follow-on conversation clearly indicates, what I said DIS-proves his point.Again, you are proving his point.Except that they dont.Actually, BECAUSE there is no room for question in a religion, people leave and start another...and another...and another. And they go hammer and tongs over their differences too.
Catholicism and Lutheranism and Anglicanism, etc, are all products of questions and interpretations withing the same religion. Thus, there is room for question and interpretation within a religion.
Iraq was a good thing, got rid of husseein. The economy went to pot after the dimwits took control of the congress due to the housing market, which was clintons, franks, dodd, and the rest of the dimwits fault. So stop blaming Bush idiot.When ever someone on the left is accused of Rape or sexual misconduct the liberals always defend them? Make disparaging remarks about the charges and generally claim nothing important happened?
Of course if a Republican even smiles at a pretty girl those same people are all hot to prosecute for something, anything.
Well,
the left always hold themselves to a lower standard...
If they didn't then their policies failures and history would look even worse
Surely, surely. And we have seen such successes in the Conservative policies. Why look how quickly ol' "W" captured Bin Laden after the murder of 3000 American Citizens on American soil. And the astounding successes in the Iraq war and occupation. The amazing economic growth from 2001 to 2009. And how quickly the Republicans came to the aid of the 9-11 First Responders. Just warms the cockles of your little heart to see these successful Conservative policies.
Probably a left but kissing paper so it is full of lies. From what I have seen over the years the dimwits are the biggest sicko scumbags. Look at clinton and tedd "Chapaquidick" kennedy, fine examples of humanity.
That is another totally different subject, besides, we were created by God.Why should it matter how we act. We were born from pond scum evolved from
apes. The fact that we stopped eating our poo and masturbating in public is all we should really hope for and some of us have achieved that, now all we have to do is help the democrats learn what toilet paper is used for.
Yep, the last election is a good start. Get rid of pelosi and reid altogether and this country will be better off.The ones that do are hounded out
No. As the follow-on conversation clearly indicates, what I said DIS-proves his point.Again, you are proving his point.Except that they dont.
Catholicism and Lutheranism and Anglicanism, etc, are all products of questions and interpretations withing the same religion. Thus, there is room for question and interpretation within a religion.
With God.So, is it better to set moral standards for oneself and society, or to have none so that when you fall from grace no one can point a finger?
How about moral standards that dont include the doctrine of Your religion.
I want my politicians to be honest about policy and vote with the best interests of their constituients.
If you cant meet your own religions tennets then dont expect everyone else who doesnt share your religion to meet them.
Where do moral standards originate?
Red herring.so if there is now room to question religion, whos religion is the correct one according the bible?No. As the follow-on conversation clearly indicates, what I said DIS-proves his point.Again, you are proving his point.
The Bible is the word of God, proof enough, no pretending needed. If you believe in anything else you are lost. Good luck.The minds of humans
And what do many use to guide their minds?
Logic , unlike people who pretend the bible is proven fact.
Jesus did say to be good to each other and truthful, so stop lying. He also said "I am the way, the truth, and the life, no man comes to the father but through me". If you believe in one part of the Bible you have to believe in the whole Bible otherwise it is meaningless. I believe the book in the Bible you want to check that out in is John 14.The people who beleive in religious myths are fine with me right up until they try to insist their myths are on the same plane with demonstrateable facts.
Use your religion as intended, jesus wanted you to be good to each other and tell the truth.
Start doing that
This gives more credence to my thought that the bell shaped curve is alive and well in all groups and for all measures of character amongst the populations. Pity we can't know how many such "transgressions" go unreported. My bet would be that there are just as many, percentatge wise, in each group here...liberals and conservatives...Democrats and Republicans...atheist and religious...you name it.Sex Scandals Through the Years: Both Parties Even - Newsweek
Democrats:
1. * *Wayne Hays (1976): Affair with secretary (one of the first major sex scandals)
2. * *Allan Howe (1976): Solicited sex with two prostitutes (both of whom were undercover cops)
3. * *John Young (1976): Staffer alleged sexual harrassment
4. * *Fred Richmond (1978): Charged with soliciting sex from a 16-year-old boy.
5. * *Gerry Studds (1983): Reprimanded for having sex with a male teenage House page
6. * *Gary Hart (1988): Affair with model Donna Rice.
7. * *Barney Frank (1989): Affair with male prostitute, who also conducted business in Frank's home.
8. * *Chuck Robb (1991): Admitted to receiving a nude massage from a former Miss Virginia.
9. * *Brock Adams (1992): Eight women accused him of sexual harassment, abuse, and rape.
10. * *Mel Reynolds (1994): Sexual relationship with 16-year-old campaign volunteer.
11. * *Bill Clinton (1998): Affair with intern Monica Lewinsky.
12. * *Gary Condit (2001): Affair with (murdered) intern Chandra Levy.
13. * *Paul Patton (2002): Affair with nursing home operator; when the affair ended the state of Kentucky filed numerous violations against her business.
14. * *Bob Wise (2003): Affair with a state government staffer
15. * *Jim McGreevey (2004): Resigned as NJ governor after admitting that he is "a gay American"
16. * *Neil Goldschmidt (2004): Admitted to having a relationship with a 14-year-old girl in the 1970s.
17. * *Roosevelt Dobbins (2005): Congressman form Arkansas, pleaded guilty to fondling a 16-year-old.
18. * *Gavin Newsom (2007): Affair with the wife of a top aide.
19. * *Antonio Villaraigosa (2007): Affair with a television reporter.
20. * *Tim Mahoney (2008): Admitted to multiple affairs.
21. * *Eliot Spitzer (2008): Involved in prostitution scandal.
22. * *Paul Morrison (2008): Affair with administrative staffer while Attorney General of Kansas, pressured her to reveal information about Kansas D.A.
23. * *Marc Dann (2008): Attorney General of Ohio, had an affair with a staffer.
24. * *David Paterson (2008): Admitted that both he and his wife had extramarital affairs
25. * *John Edwards (2008): Had an affair with a campaign employee while running for President.
26. * *Kwame Kilpatrick (2008): Text messaging sex scandal
27. * *Sam Adams (2009): Portland, OR mayor lied about relationship with 18-year-old male intern.
TALLY: 27
Republicans:
1. * *Tom Evans (1980): Along with other politicians, accused of being involved with lobbyist/former Playboy model Paula Parkinson.
2. * *Bob Bauman (1980): Solicited sex from a 16-year-old boy
3. * *Jon Hinson (1980): Caught attempting to have oral sex in a men's House restroom.
4. * *John G. Schmitz (1982): Had an affair that led to an out-of-wedlock child.
5. * *Dan Crane (1983): Reprimanded for having sex with a teenage House page.*
6. * *(Buz Lukens (1989): Spent time in jail after having sex with a 16-year-old girl.
7. * *Jon Grunseth (1990): Swam nude with group of 13-year-old girls; suspended gubernatorial run.
8. * *Ken Calvert (1993): Arrested while soliciting a prostitute.
9. * *Bob Packwood (1995): Resigned from Senate amid allegations of sexual harassment and abuse.
10. * *Bob Livingston (1998): Admitted to multiple extramarital affairs.
11. * *Helen Chenoweth-Hage (1998): Admitted to a six year affair with a married rancher in her home state of Idaho
12. * *Henry Hyde (1998): Admitted he'd had an affair many years prior
13. * *Rudy Giuliani (2002): Ex-wife Donna Hanover accused him of "notorious adultery"; he's now married to Judith Nathan, his girlfriend at the time.
14. * *Steve LaTourette (2003): Accused of affair with staffer, who he later married.
15. * *Jack Ryan (2004): Former wife Jeri claimed he took her to sex clubs and pressured her to have sex in public.
16. * *James West (2005): Removed as mayor of Spokane, WA after an gay Internet sex scandal.
17. * *Don Sherwood (2006): Affair with 29-year-old woman while he was a PA congressman.
18. * *Mark Foley (2006): Involved in a texting scandal with male House pages
19. * *Bob Allen (2007): Solicited oral sex from a male undercover cop.
20. * *Newt Gingrich (2007):Acknowledged having an affair in the 1990s
21. * *Charles Boutin (2007): Resigned from MD Public Service Comission after email exchanges with a prostitute surfaced.
22. * *David Vitter (2007): Part of the DC Madam scandal
23. * *Larry Craig (2007): Bathroom sex solicitation scandal.
24. * *Vito Fossella (2008): Affair with a retired Air Force lieutenant colonel.
25. * *John Ensign (2009): Admitted to having an affair with a married staffer.
26. * *Mark Sanford (2009): Affair with a woman in Argentina.
TALLY: 26
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Yeah, like there is no faults in science, believe that and you are just as ignorant as you say Christians are. The missing link to prove evolution still has not been found and never will be. Evolution is a lie made up by a atheist to justify his immorality.Science is superior to any myth.
To pretend that it is not true for religious purposes just makes someone irrational.
Red herring.so if there is now room to question religion, whos religion is the correct one according the bible?No. As the follow-on conversation clearly indicates, what I said DIS-proves his point.
Your previously noted statement has been disproven by the existence of the various septs within Christianity, as each of them represents an interpretation of the Word of God and/or a question related to same; your question here speaks not to that point, and is thus a meaningless attempt to change the subject.
Oh my, hit a nerve on ol' RGS. Well, RGS, you dumb ass, read Newties comments concerning the lady that drowned her two children in the river. And then notice how he shut up when it came out that she had been the victum of incest with her father since she was a small child. And her father was the Republican Committee Chairman for that Southern State County.
There are evil people in every group, pretending, as you do, that they only exist in some other group is the evidence of a weak mind, wedded to a weak ideology.
